Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-14 14:30:12, schrieb Matthew R. Dempsky: > This is certainly the case for my University's LUG. The Slackware > bigots love to act as though you can't successfully install Debian > without a network connection unless you have 11 spare CD's, despite how > often we correct them. This

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Chris, Am 2006-03-14 17:26:53, schrieb Chris Lale: > I do remember there being talk of a "Debian-lite" CD, or does the first > iso actually achieve this? If not, I suppose you might need separate KDE > and Gnome CDs. This is what I have done since Woody... I have created CD's for "conso

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-03-16 09:23:44, schrieb Chris Lale: > What would happen to packages like Apache and Exim? You might expect to > find them in more than one CD eg Base, Web, Mail etc. exim maybe nullmailer and ssmtp woulg go onto Baseinstall-CD while apache goes onto the "Server CD" > Would you end up wi

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-18 Thread Chris Lale
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:23:44 + Chris Lale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thinking more about this I think my personal wishlist/vision would be something like this: CD1: Live/Rescue/Base system CD-Desktop-Base CD-Desktop-Office CD-Desktop-Multimedia ... CD-Server-Web

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-17 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:23:44 + Chris Lale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Thinking more about this I think my personal wishlist/vision would be > >something like this: > > > >CD1: Live/Rescue/Base system > > > >CD-Desktop-Base > >CD-Desktop-Office > >CD-Desktop-Multimedia > >... > >CD-Server-We

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-16 Thread Chris Lale
Andrei Popescu wrote: Sorry Neil, I meant to send it to the list. On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:12:31 +1100 Neil Dugan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think it would be a good idea to order the different install methods by how many iso files needed (i.e. net install first). Another thing that migh

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:32:21 -0800 "Steve Mazurek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, indeed, when I first tried Debian I did not understand that I didn't > need to download everything. In fact, I am not using Debian right now , but > a derivative, because I need to find out just what I need to in

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
Sorry Neil, I meant to send it to the list. On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:12:31 +1100 Neil Dugan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it would be a good idea to order the different install methods > by how many iso files needed (i.e. net install first). > > Another thing that might be handy is to have

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-14 Thread Neil Dugan
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:38:58 -0500 Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: A quick peak at debian-cd shows that there are discussions about having a Desktop install with as few CDs as possible. This is the development part. No it's not, all releases

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:38:58 -0500 Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > A quick peak at debian-cd shows that there are discussions about > > having a Desktop install with as few CDs as possible. This is the > > development part. > > No it's not, all releases since at l

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-14 Thread Joey Hess
Andrei Popescu wrote: > A quick peak at debian-cd shows that there are discussions about > having a Desktop install with as few CDs as possible. This is the > development part. No it's not, all releases since at least sarge have had a functional desktop with only CD 1. -- see shy jo signature.

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-14 Thread David Kirchner
On 3/14/06, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A quick peak at debian-cd shows that there are discussions about having a > Desktop install with as few CDs as possible. This is the development part. The > site developers should present this accordingly. Something like: "For a > Desktop > i

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:26:53 + Chris Lale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Not everyone has a fast internet connection. If you were downloading > isos on someone else's broadband, I would think that you would probably > manage with just the first 2 CDs to start with. [snip] > I do remem

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-14 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 06:15:10PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > I have noticed that many newcomers to Debian often seem to not > understand that one of the big differences between Debian and other > distros/OSes is that you don't need to download EVERYTHING. This is certainly the case for my U

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-14 Thread Bruno Buys
On 3/14/06, Chris Lale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote:>Hello list>>Maybe it's a bit OT, but we do want new users, or not? ;-)>>I have noticed that many newcomers to Debian often seem to not understand that one of the big differences between Debian and other distros/OSes is that you

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-14 Thread Chris Lale
Andrei Popescu wrote: Hello list Maybe it's a bit OT, but we do want new users, or not? ;-) I have noticed that many newcomers to Debian often seem to not understand that one of the big differences between Debian and other distros/OSes is that you don't need to download EVERYTHING. They probab

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-14 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Andrei Popescu wrote: Hello list Maybe it's a bit OT, but we do want new users, or not? ;-) Why is this OT? It is related to user's of debian. So very much relevant on this list. I have noticed that many newcomers to Debian often seem to not understand that one of the big differences betw

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-14 Thread steef
Andrei Popescu wrote: Hello list Maybe it's a bit OT, but we do want new users, or not? ;-) I have noticed that many newcomers to Debian often seem to not understand that one of the big differences between Debian and other distros/OSes is that you don't need to download EVERYTHING. They probabl

Re: Newcomers to Debian downloading/ordering full CD-set

2006-03-14 Thread Craig Russell
Andrei Popescu wrote: Hello list Maybe it's a bit OT, but we do want new users, or not? ;-) I have noticed that many newcomers to Debian often seem to not understand that one of the big differences between Debian and other distros/OSes is that you don't need to download EVERYTHING. They prob