On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 09:45:05PM +, Glyn Astill wrote:
> > 'ALL=(ALL) ALL' is no more dangerous than having the 'su' binary
> > available.
> >
> > The NOPASSWD option is not the default.
>
> No. For su they'd have to enter the root password, for sudo su they'd
> just have to enter the passw
Hi,
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 03:03:23AM -0500, dwain wrote:
> hello all. i just installed debian tonight next to win xp. they seem to
> play well together. i was trying to setup the bug report and found that i
> can't sudo into root. i can get into the synaptic package manager with the
> root p
On 2009-05-22_18:19:19, dwain wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>
Hi, dwain
I went back in the archives and read your original post. It is pretty
clear to me from that post that you are a single user working on your
own computer. There is no sysadmin to help or
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:19 PM, dwain wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>>
>> > i too was disappointed. i tried su and authentication failed. how do i
>> > update my system without being able to log in as root?
>> >
>> > now i don't mind a spirited discussio
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 07:09:17PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 05:50:28PM -0500, dwain wrote:
> > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, George wrote:
> >
[snip]
>
> A last resort would be:
>
> 1.physically disconnect the box from the network.
> 2.boot a live CD
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > i too was disappointed. i tried su and authentication failed. how do i
> > update my system without being able to log in as root?
> >
> > now i don't mind a spirited discussion on the pros and cons of sudo vs.
> su,
> > but my origina
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 05:50:28PM -0500, dwain wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, George wrote:
>
> > I was a little disappointed being called out on my suggestions in my
> > original post. Obviously the person isn’t a sys admin and from my
> > understanding the whole purpose of sudo is s
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:16 PM, George wrote:
> I was a little disappointed being called out on my suggestions in my
> original post. Obviously the person isn’t a sys admin and from my
> understanding the whole purpose of sudo is so the user only has root
> privileges for that given command inst
In Friday 22 May 2009, Glyn wrote:
>--- On Fri, 22/5/09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>> Glyn Astill wrote:
>> > ALL=(All) ALL is a bad idea.
>>
>> Um, no. With 'ALL=(ALL) ALL' they would still have to
>> type in their
>> password unless they had recently given their
>> credentials. If you want
--- On Fri, 22/5/09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> Subject: Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Friday, 22 May, 2009, 9:20 PM
> In <857394.80354...@web23608.mail.ird.
In <857394.80354...@web23608.mail.ird.yahoo.com>, Glyn Astill wrote:
>--- On Fri, 22/5/09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>> It's not equivalent to running as root, since (a) you have
>> to prefix
>> privileged operations with "sudo", (b) you have to re-auth
>> such actions by
>> entering your pass
--- On Fri, 22/5/09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> Subject: Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Friday, 22 May, 2009, 8:14 PM
> In <20090522183807.ga16...@marksh
In <78582fa40905221202r3efedabege566a47c61144...@mail.gmail.com>, S Scharf
wrote:
>On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Mark Shroyer <
>subscriber+deb...@markshroyer.com
>wrote:
>> It *would* be safer to use neither su nor sudo, and only have root log
>> in on a separate, secure console, thereby elim
>From: S Scharf [mailto:ss11...@gmail.com]
>Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:03 PM
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: sudo vs. su (was Re: new to list, new to debian, new to linux)
>On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Mark Shroyer
>wrote:
>It *would* be safer to us
In <20090522183807.ga16...@markshroyer.com>, Mark Shroyer wrote:
>On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 06:56:18AM -0700, Thorny wrote:
>> You've just advised an obvious newbie (stated in post) on how to make
>> his system insecure. Giving ALL=(All) ALL rights to a normal user is
>> pretty much the same as runni
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Mark Shroyer <
subscriber+deb...@markshroyer.com >wrote:
>
> It *would* be safer to use neither su nor sudo, and only have root log
> in on a separate, secure console, thereby eliminating the possibility of
> password sniffing from a compromised regular account. H
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 06:56:18AM -0700, Thorny wrote:
> You've just advised an obvious newbie (stated in post) on how to make his
> system insecure. Giving ALL=(All) ALL rights to a normal user is pretty
> much the same as running as root and is not recommended on a Debian
> system. It is what wa
On Fri, 22 May 2009 06:14:59 -0400, George posted:
> You have to install the sudo package to be able to use sudo.
>
>
>
> If you want to install sudo you will first need to open a terminal and
> type:
>
> $ su
>
> $
>
> # aptitude update <- let it do it’s thing and it will tell you if there
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On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 08:45:03AM -0400, Bob Parnes wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 06:24:49AM -0400, Daryl Styrk wrote:
> > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 06:14:59AM -0400, George wrote:
> > > You have to install the sudo package to be able to use sudo.
>
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Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 6:25 AM
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On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 06:14:59AM -0400, George
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On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 06:14:59AM -0400, George wrote:
> You have to install the sudo package to be able to use sudo.
>
>
> # vim /etc/sudoers < now you can edit the sudoers file and add your username.
> The new line will look just like the line
You have to install the sudo package to be able to use sudo.
If you want to install sudo you will first need to open a terminal and type:
$ su
$
# aptitude update <- let it do it’s thing and it will tell you if there are any
updates
# aptitude safe-upgrade <- let it do it’s upgrade
# apt
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On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 03:03:23AM -0500, dwain wrote:
> hello all. i just installed debian tonight next to win xp. they seem to
> play well together. i was trying to setup the bug report and found that i
> can't sudo into root. i can get into the
Thanx Kevin and Karsten!
Will download the docs.
Anil Gupte
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> Hi all!
>
> I am resending this message because I forgot to change the topic on
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On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 00:08, Anil Gupte wrote:
> Hi all!
>
Hi Anil,
> I am resending this message because I forgot to change the topic on the last
> one. Most lists want a hello message, so here it is:
>
> I am newbie to Linux, and decide to throw my lot in with Debian. I always
> learned by as
Bryan Scaringe wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I just joined the list. Any docs I should read before posting?
> Is there a list-specific FAQ? (I've seen the Debian-FAQ.)
> I have had experience with various Linux distros for a couple of
> years, and just switched from RedHat to Debian (because o
>
> Hi,
> I just joined the list. Any docs I should read before posting?
> Is there a list-specific FAQ? (I've seen the Debian-FAQ.)
> I have had experience with various Linux distros for a couple of
> years, and just switched from RedHat to Debian (because of the awful network
> init
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