Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-02-01 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, February 01, 2019 10:27:05 AM Curt wrote: > Maybe inconclusive. What's a gnome application, anyway? I'd like to try to answer that: * I would say that a GNOME application is one that is in some sense supported by the GNOME (I guess GNU?) organization -- it is probably hosted (i.e.

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-02-01 Thread Curt
On 2019-02-01, Kenneth Parker wrote: > --1724fb0580ce49f7 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:21 AM Joe wrote: > > >> ... NM is a Gnome application. ... >> > > > That's funny: Last year, I installed Kubuntu (not Debian, but same Package > Manager

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-02-01 Thread David Wright
On Fri 01 Feb 2019 at 00:19:09 (-0500), Kenneth Parker wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:21 AM Joe wrote: > > > > ... NM is a Gnome application. ... > > > > > That's funny: Last year, I installed Kubuntu (not Debian, but same Package > Manager) and, even though no Gnome, Network Manager was

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-31 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:21 AM Joe wrote: > ... NM is a Gnome application. ... > That's funny: Last year, I installed Kubuntu (not Debian, but same Package Manager) and, even though no Gnome, Network Manager was installed. -- > Joe > Kenneth Parker

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-31 Thread Harley A.W. Lorenzo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Also in reply to: 20190131092106.2a6b3...@jresid.jretrading.com q2ugqc$4kcj$1...@blaine.gmane.org 20190131115051.3276c...@jresid.jretrading.com On 2019-01-31 09:21 + "Joe" wrote: >By 'removing' Cinnamon, do you mean that you uninstalled it? >I

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-31 Thread Joe
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 10:57:42 +0100 deloptes wrote: > Joe wrote: > > > NM is a Gnome application. > > Are you sure? IMO it is not a gnome only tool although it is > developed by gnome > https://developer.gnome.org/NetworkManager/stable/NetworkManager.html > That's what I mean. It was develop

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-31 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > NM is a Gnome application. Are you sure? IMO it is not a gnome only tool although it is developed by gnome https://developer.gnome.org/NetworkManager/stable/NetworkManager.html Description-en: network management framework (daemon and userspace tools) NetworkManager is a system netw

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-31 Thread Joe
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 07:21:10 + "Harley A.W. Lorenzo" wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > After digging around more, the service file isn't just the only thing > gone, the entire package has been removed as well. Honestly, I have > no idea what could have resulted i

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-30 Thread Harley A.W. Lorenzo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 After digging around more, the service file isn't just the only thing gone, the entire package has been removed as well. Honestly, I have no idea what could have resulted in this package being removed suddenly given the only circumstance that changed

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-30 Thread Harley A.W. Lorenzo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Thank you. To my surprise, the service was masked. I unmasked it, and the service is completely gone now. I'm going to write it back in and see if this fixes the issue, but now I'm very curious why the service masked itself after switching desktop e

Re: Networking Completely Failed

2019-01-30 Thread john doe
On 1/31/2019 3:04 AM, Harley A.W. Lorenzo wrote: > On a Debian testing laptop that I switched from Cinnamon to XFCE4 (without > xfce4-goodies initially) rebooting into the new desktop environment caused > all my network interfaces except from loopback to fail. The network manager > doesn't appea