On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:15:17PM +0300, Aioanei Rares wrote:
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[..]
> Talk about netiquette and top-posting...:) Btw, if one wants to respect
> netiquette, he/she/it can do it even in gmail.
Or even trim your posts.
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On 2009-08-03 22:21, Chris Jones wrote:
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:22:28PM EDT, Jack Schneider wrote:
Chris,
I've found Compiz-fusion useful to keep multiple things going..
ctrl-alt--> giving a new desktop quickly... YMMV.
Jack
Jack, I'm sure it does.. and trust me, I also can spend tim
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:39:10AM EDT, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Wed,29.Jul.09, 18:47:55, Chris Jones wrote:
>
> > The only thing I find "frustrating" about mutt is that it is impossible
> > to view more than one message at a time - you actually have to fire up a
> > second instance of mutt to
[fixed the top-posting]
On Mon,03.Aug.09, 17:16:18, Neal Hogan wrote:
> >> ok ,ok . . . I'll just be gender neutral from now on. I apologize for
> >> offending anyone. I wasn't referring to Mr. Po . . . I mean . . .
> >> Andrei as male under the stereotype that all computer nerds are guys.
> >> I
On Mon,03.Aug.09, 21:22:28, Jack Schneider wrote:
> I've found Compiz-fusion useful to keep multiple things going..
> ctrl-alt--> giving a new desktop quickly... YMMV.
Ctrl+Alt+ -> works in "pure" Xfwm (the WM of Xfce) too and I think a few
other WMs as well, but I prefer Alt+Fx which switches t
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:22:28PM EDT, Jack Schneider wrote:
> Chris,
> I've found Compiz-fusion useful to keep multiple things going..
> ctrl-alt--> giving a new desktop quickly... YMMV.
> Jack
Jack, I'm sure it does.. and trust me, I also can spend time looking at
the screenshots, marveling
Chris Jones writes:
> If you need the editor, a shell, a debugger, and a log tail displaying
> concurrently on the one physical screen to achieve what you are
> working one faster and more effectively, fine.
No, _not_ one physical screen. I have poor eyesight but a good memory
so I usually keep t
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:16:00PM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2009-08-03 18:30, Chris Jones wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 02:08:07PM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>>> (I'd mention huge scrollback buffers, but emacs or screen probably
>>> also does that.)
>>
>> Again, I'm lost - how doe
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:54:56 -0400
Chris Jones wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:20:58PM EDT, John Hasler wrote:
> > Chris Jones writes:
> > > I guess so.. though I'm not sure about the usefulness thereof,
> > > save for demo'ing the flexibility of, what's the word.. Window
> > > Managers..?
>
On 2009-08-03 18:30, Chris Jones wrote:
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 02:08:07PM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote:
[snip]
(I'd mention huge scrollback buffers, but emacs or screen probably also
does that.)
Again, I'm lost - how does the graphical nature of the interface change
the size of the scrollback bu
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:20:58PM EDT, John Hasler wrote:
> Chris Jones writes:
> > I guess so.. though I'm not sure about the usefulness thereof, save
> > for demo'ing the flexibility of, what's the word.. Window Managers..?
>
> Organization. I can have an FVWM "desktop" with a couple of dozen
Chris Jones writes:
> I guess so.. though I'm not sure about the usefulness thereof, save
> for demo'ing the flexibility of, what's the word.. Window Managers..?
Organization. I can have an FVWM "desktop" with a couple of dozen
"panes" for each of umpteen projects. I can then, for rxample, swit
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 01:22:58PM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2009-08-03 11:55, Chris Jones wrote:
>> gnu/screen, tmux..?
>
> Does that give you overlapping ..
no.. matter of taste, but I'd rather see the contents of each window and
not have to shuffle them continually.
In any case, ncurses ha
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 02:08:07PM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote:
> A GUI,
What's that got to do with the interface..?
GUI = Graphical User Interface, right?
> though, allows you to have dozens (hundreds, even) of xterms
I would assume that a single instance of a terminal multiplexer allows
you to
I referred to you as "it."
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,03.Aug.09, 17:03:01, Neal Hogan wrote:
>>
>> ok ,ok . . . I'll just be gender neutral from now on. I apologize for
>> offending anyone. I wasn't referring to Mr. Po . . . I mean . . .
>> Andrei as male unde
On Mon,03.Aug.09, 17:03:01, Neal Hogan wrote:
>
> ok ,ok . . . I'll just be gender neutral from now on. I apologize for
> offending anyone. I wasn't referring to Mr. Po . . . I mean . . .
> Andrei as male under the stereotype that all computer nerds are guys.
> I figured (correctly, I might add) t
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,03.Aug.09, 23:57:06, Aioanei Rares wrote:
>> >
>> >Depending on country and/or language there can be rules to
>> >determine if a name is female or male. For example in my language
>> >I don't know of any male name that ends in "a".
>
>>
On Mon,03.Aug.09, 23:57:06, Aioanei Rares wrote:
> >
> >Depending on country and/or language there can be rules to
> >determine if a name is female or male. For example in my language
> >I don't know of any male name that ends in "a".
> Zaharia Stancu ;)
You got me! :)
Regards,
Andrei
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Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,03.Aug.09, 12:28:41, Neal Hogan wrote:
(Yet another reason I dislike gmail is that people no longer need addresses
with ccTLD to know where they are from...)
How would this have helped identify gender?
Depending on country and/or language there can
On Mon,03.Aug.09, 12:28:41, Neal Hogan wrote:
> >
> > (Yet another reason I dislike gmail is that people no longer need addresses
> > with ccTLD to know where they are from...)
>
> How would this have helped identify gender?
Depending on country and/or language there can be rules to determine if
On Mon,03.Aug.09, 12:25:10, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> >You're kidding, right? :)
>
> Unless Andrei is a female name,
At least not in my country, but funny enough, the female version,
Andrea, is a male name in Italy :)
> or you're a child...
In some way all of u
On Mon,03.Aug.09, 12:22:58, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> But...but...how do you fit an Emacs session and five shells on the
> >>screen at once without a GUI? :-O
> >
> >gnu/screen, tmux..?
>
> Does that give you overlapping or tiled windows?
GNU screen can do tiled windows.
Regards,
Andrei
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On 2009-08-03 12:43, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:12:18AM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:19:16PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <...> was heard
to say:
Michael Pobega wrote:
Mark, a GUI-less system is useless (unless it's some sort of server)
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:12:18AM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:19:16PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
> was heard to say:
> > Michael Pobega wrote:
> >
> > > Mark, a GUI-less system is useless (unless it's some sort of server).
> >
> > You are kidding, right?
> >
>
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2009-08-03 11:59, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>>
>> On Mon,03.Aug.09, 06:05:46, Neal Hogan wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>> Mr. Popescu
>>
>> You're kidding, right? :)
>
> Unless Andrei is a female name, or you're a child...
if this is the case, then it wa
On 2009-08-03 11:59, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Mon,03.Aug.09, 06:05:46, Neal Hogan wrote:
[...]
Mr. Popescu
You're kidding, right? :)
Unless Andrei is a female name, or you're a child...
(Yet another reason I dislike gmail is that people no longer need
addresses with ccTLD to know where
On 2009-08-03 11:55, Chris Jones wrote:
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 12:12:18PM EDT, Daniel Burrows wrote:
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:19:16PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi ... was heard
to say:
Michael Pobega wrote:
Mark, a GUI-less system is useless (unless it's some sort of server).
You are kidd
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,03.Aug.09, 06:05:46, Neal Hogan wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Mr. Popescu
>
> You're kidding, right? :)
nah . . . you deserve respect!
what do you want to be called?
>
> Regards,
> Andrei
> --
> If you can't explain it simply, you don't und
On Mon,03.Aug.09, 06:05:46, Neal Hogan wrote:
[...]
> Mr. Popescu
You're kidding, right? :)
Regards,
Andrei
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On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 12:12:18PM EDT, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:19:16PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
> was heard to say:
> > Michael Pobega wrote:
> >
> > > Mark, a GUI-less system is useless (unless it's some sort of server).
> >
> > You are kidding, right?
> >
> >
On Mon,03.Aug.09, 09:02:31, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> >
> > set header_cache="~/.mutt/cache/"
>
> I've done that already. It still takes a good half-minute to a
> minute to load a big mailbox, and it's worse if I have concurrent disk
> activity going on.
What do you mean by big? Currently my de
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:19:16PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
was heard to say:
> Michael Pobega wrote:
>
> > Mark, a GUI-less system is useless (unless it's some sort of server).
>
> You are kidding, right?
>
> It actually depends on what you are using it for. I use GUI-less systems all
>
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:59:03AM +0300, Andrei Popescu
was heard to say:
> On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:14:55 -0700
> Daniel Burrows wrote:
>
> > (3) mutt takes *ages* to load large folders, particularly if they're
> > maildir based. ISTM that an on-disk index would be a sensible
> >
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 06:05 -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:
> Oh ya . . . good morning :-)
I hope you can calm down a bit after the coffee, in general it's
said to bring you up to speed for a while :)
leaving-for-cooking-3rd-1l-coffee-pot-for-today-ly yours
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On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2009-08-03 06:05, Neal Hogan wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> Mr. Popescu has kindly pointed out basic point-drag, drop, GUI-click
>> help, which should have been found and "played with" upon install.
>> There is definitely no reason to bother the WHOLE
On 2009-08-03 06:05, Neal Hogan wrote:
[snip]
Mr. Popescu has kindly pointed out basic point-drag, drop, GUI-click
help, which should have been found and "played with" upon install.
There is definitely no reason to bother the WHOLE LIST with more XFCE
config stuff . . . ya?
The Xfce-equivalent
On 2009-08-03 02:01, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun,02.Aug.09, 22:24:57, Ron Johnson wrote:
As you can see from the above screen shot, certain fonts (like the
ones in the Iceweasel Folders and Subjects lists) are "correct",
according to my tastes. Menu->Settings->Appearance let me set them
to the
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2009-08-02 12:21, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>> On 2009-08-02 05:59, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun,02.Aug.09, 03:45:58, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> My Xfce setup would be very familiar for a Windows 2k user ;)
Can you send me (
On Sun,02.Aug.09, 22:24:57, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> As you can see from the above screen shot, certain fonts (like the
> ones in the Iceweasel Folders and Subjects lists) are "correct",
> according to my tastes. Menu->Settings->Appearance let me set them
> to the font/size which I prefer. Other f
On 2009-08-02 12:21, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2009-08-02 05:59, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun,02.Aug.09, 03:45:58, Ron Johnson wrote:
My Xfce setup would be very familiar for a Windows 2k user ;)
Can you send me (or throw onto a website) a screen-print?
Sure
http://yetanotherpersonal.blogspot.c
On 2009-08-02 05:59, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sun,02.Aug.09, 03:45:58, Ron Johnson wrote:
My Xfce setup would be very familiar for a Windows 2k user ;)
Can you send me (or throw onto a website) a screen-print?
Sure
http://yetanotherpersonal.blogspot.com/2009/08/screenshot-with-my-desktop.htm
On Sun,02.Aug.09, 03:45:58, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> >My Xfce setup would be very familiar for a Windows 2k user ;)
>
> Can you send me (or throw onto a website) a screen-print?
Sure
http://yetanotherpersonal.blogspot.com/2009/08/screenshot-with-my-desktop.html
Regards,
Andrei
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On Sb,01.aug.09, 19:27:49, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> >The proposed solution involves the script[1]:
> >
> >,[ external-reply.sh ]
> >| #!/bin/sh
> >| DRAFT="$1"
> >| cp "$DRAFT" "$DRAFT.tmp"
> >| (
> >| xterm -e "exec mutt -H \"$DRAFT.tmp\""
> >| sleep 1
> >| rm -f "$DRAFT.tmp"
> >|
On 2009-08-02 03:34, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Du,02.aug.09, 02:51:58, Ron Johnson wrote:
Yes. But I've been disappointed in the past by Xfce's lack of
"integration" (that's not exactly the proper word, but it's as good
as I can think of). What I mean in that what I do use of GNOME
"just work
On 2009-08-02 01:13:31 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> The proposed solution involves the script[1]:
>
> ,[ external-reply.sh ]
> | #!/bin/sh
> | DRAFT="$1"
> | cp "$DRAFT" "$DRAFT.tmp"
> | (
> | xterm -e "exec mutt -H \"$DRAFT.tmp\""
> | sleep 1
> | rm -f "$DRAFT.tmp"
> | ) &
> |
>
On 2009-08-01 17:13, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Sat,01.Aug.09, 16:06:08, Chris Jones wrote:
http://does-not-exist.org/mail-archives/mutt-users/msg14344.html
The mutt-user archive seems to be broken - if you display this message
and try to display the thread index, it does display an index but t
On 2009-08-01 11:23, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Thu,30.Jul.09, 16:13:08, Ron Johnson wrote:
When's the last time you tried Xfce?
A long time, mainly because I've seen complaints about unfixed
memory leaks.
$ uptime
19:15:58 up 4 days, 10:47, 1 user, load average: 0.20, 0.10, 0.09
$ free
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 06:13:31PM EDT, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sat,01.Aug.09, 16:06:08, Chris Jones wrote:
>
> > > http://does-not-exist.org/mail-archives/mutt-users/msg14344.html
> >
> > The mutt-user archive seems to be broken - if you display this message
> > and try to display the thread
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 06:13:31PM EDT, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sat,01.Aug.09, 16:06:08, Chris Jones wrote:
>
> > > http://does-not-exist.org/mail-archives/mutt-users/msg14344.html
> >
> > The mutt-user archive seems to be broken - if you display this message
> > and try to display the thread
On Sat,01.Aug.09, 16:06:08, Chris Jones wrote:
> > http://does-not-exist.org/mail-archives/mutt-users/msg14344.html
>
> The mutt-user archive seems to be broken - if you display this message
> and try to display the thread index, it does display an index but there
> is no trace of this particula
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 04:39:10AM EDT, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Wed,29.Jul.09, 18:47:55, Chris Jones wrote:
>
> > The only thing I find "frustrating" about mutt is that it is impossible
> > to view more than one message at a time - you actually have to fire up a
> > second instance of mutt to
On Thu,30.Jul.09, 16:13:08, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >When's the last time you tried Xfce?
>
> A long time, mainly because I've seen complaints about unfixed
> memory leaks.
$ uptime
19:15:58 up 4 days, 10:47, 1 user, load average: 0.20, 0.10, 0.09
$ free
total used free
On Wed,29.Jul.09, 18:47:55, Chris Jones wrote:
> The only thing I find "frustrating" about mutt is that it is impossible
> to view more than one message at a time - you actually have to fire up a
> second instance of mutt to achieve this.
The only time I *really* needed this is at compose time.
Mark wrote:
Interesting thread. From a Debian/Linux and Debian email list
newbie's perspective: I spent several months researching Debian
(actually tried openSUSE before Debian), printing/reading manuals,
wiki's, doing multiple installations trying different options and
configurations, /befor
Tim Beauregard wrote:
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>
> I recently re-subscribed having been off for about four years. The
> changes I have noticed are:
>
> 1. Much less traffic. I previously got 250+ posts per day. Now 50-100.
> Could this be due to the development of ub
Michael Pobega wrote:
> Mark, a GUI-less system is useless (unless it's some sort of server).
You are kidding, right?
It actually depends on what you are using it for. I use GUI-less systems all
the times for programming. They are as useful as a GUI system.
This is not to say that GUI is usele
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:01:48PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:14:55AM EDT, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 06:47:55PM -0400, Chris Jones
> > was heard to say:
>
> > (2) Since mutt runs its editor as an external program, there's no way
> > to
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:14:55AM EDT, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 06:47:55PM -0400, Chris Jones
> was heard to say:
[..]
> > The only thing I find "frustrating" about mutt is that it is impossible
> > to view more than one message at a time - you actually have to fire up a
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:14:55 -0700
Daniel Burrows wrote:
> (3) mutt takes *ages* to load large folders, particularly if they're
> maildir based. ISTM that an on-disk index would be a sensible
> idea here.
set header_cache="~/.mutt/cache/"
I also recompile mutt using "--with-tokyo
On 2009-07-30 15:35, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:54:33 -0500
Ron Johnson wrote:
GNOME really is too bulky and pretty dumbed-down, but they've done
IMNSHO a good job of making an easily-configured panel and a
"smooth" system that lets me customize it enough so that what I nee
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:54:33 -0500
Ron Johnson wrote:
> GNOME really is too bulky and pretty dumbed-down, but they've done
> IMNSHO a good job of making an easily-configured panel and a
> "smooth" system that lets me customize it enough so that what I need
> is there, in colors and icon style
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:59:00 -0500
Neal Hogan wrote:
> > In the 3+ years I've been with Debian I've seen *great*
> > improvements in user-friendliness.
>
> I wonder what "user-friendliness" means, sometimes.
Well, in this particular case I tried to say: the Debian *operating
system* has become
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 06:47:55PM -0400, Chris Jones was
heard to say:
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 01:20:00AM EDT, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 28 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> > > On 2009-07-28 13:09, Mark wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > >> When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debi
On 29 Jul 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2009-07-29 12:19, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> >On 29 Jul 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>On 2009-07-29 02:36, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> >[snip]
> >>>Incidentally, the same comments apply to mutt. What's wrong with it?
> >>Nothing's *wrong* with it. Except that "o
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Girish Kulkarni wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Neal Hogan wrote:
>>
>> ... I think Mark has hit the proverbial nail-on-the-head ...
>
> Yes, with a top-posted HTML message, sent using Gmail. :-)
okay . . . maybe he bent the nail a bit. At least it was on the head.
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009, Neal Hogan wrote:
... I think Mark has hit the proverbial nail-on-the-head ...
Yes, with a top-posted HTML message, sent using Gmail. :-)
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On 2009-07-29 19:42, Miles Fidelman wrote:
[snip]
Well, actually, I read mail on my Mac, with SeaMonkey, but that's
another story. I keep a copy of Alpine on the server for those times
There's a reply-to-list addon for Tbird, but I don't know if it
works with SeaMonkey.
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>> Hmm.. not quite.. text-mode browsers are also useful insofar as they
>> remove all the fluff and reveal the actual content.
> Leaving nothing at all of most Web sites.
Yup: the actual content,
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Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2009-07-29 19:04, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Some of us run servers :-)
And presumably you're experienced enough to run Mutt. Give OP some
time...
Well, actually, I read mail on my Mac, with SeaMonkey, but that's
another story. I keep a copy of Alpine on the server for
On 2009-07-29 19:04, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ron Johnson Wrote
On 2009-07-28 13:09, Mark wrote:
[snip]
When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install
without the
desktop environment.
But what will you *do* with it? Mutt will frustrate you to no end, and
the int
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2009-07-28 16:03, Tim Beauregard wrote:
[snip]
Altavisting? Yahooing? It really is a jungle out there.
Altavista... Haven't thought about that in a good long time.
Funny thing, I just checked, Altavista is still out there! So is Excite
for that m
Ron Johnson Wrote
On 2009-07-28 13:09, Mark wrote:
[snip]
When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install without the
desktop environment.
But what will you *do* with it? Mutt will frustrate you to no end, and
the intarweb has become too graphics-oriented to
CJ writes:
> Hmm.. not quite.. text-mode browsers are also useful insofar as they
> remove all the fluff and reveal the actual content.
Leaving nothing at all of most Web sites.
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 06:47:55PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 01:20:00AM EDT, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 28 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> > > On 2009-07-28 13:09, Mark wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > >> When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install wi
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 01:20:00AM EDT, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 28 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> > On 2009-07-28 13:09, Mark wrote:
> > [snip]
> >> When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install without the
> >> desktop environment.
> >
> > But what will you *do* with i
On Wed, Jul 29 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Really? Tbird has pretty good keyboard controls, and allows me to
> display just a potload of folders and subjects on screen at any one
> time. (Note, though, that I work in 2-pane mode, with individual
> mails in a separate window.)
If I can't
On 2009-07-29 13:04, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Wed, Jul 29 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
Is there a way in fvwm to have a panel/dock with applets (weather,
volume, date/time and "window list" are really useful to me) and have
look like Windows 2000 (aka Crux theme and borders, and GNOME-like
icons
On 2009-07-29 12:19, Anthony Campbell wrote:
On 29 Jul 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2009-07-29 02:36, Anthony Campbell wrote:
[snip]
Incidentally, the same comments apply to mutt. What's wrong with it?
Nothing's *wrong* with it. Except that "opaque" is it's middle name.
I do have it around,
On Wed, Jul 29 2009, AG wrote:
> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 28 2009, AG wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Care to elaborate on that, John? This is a serious question - I used
>>> to use Xfce back in the days of Slackware 8.1, but that was still a WM
>>> (or was that a DE?). Are you referring to th
On Wed, Jul 29 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Is there a way in fvwm to have a panel/dock with applets (weather,
> volume, date/time and "window list" are really useful to me) and have
> look like Windows 2000 (aka Crux theme and borders, and GNOME-like
> icons)?
You can certainly have panel
On 29 Jul 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2009-07-29 02:36, Anthony Campbell wrote:
[snip]
> >
> >Incidentally, the same comments apply to mutt. What's wrong with it?
>
> Nothing's *wrong* with it. Except that "opaque" is it's middle name.
>
> I do have it around, though, and configured for IMAP,
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 04:04:45PM EDT, Michael Pobega wrote:
[..]
> Mark, a GUI-less system is useless (unless it's some sort of server).
My setup would probably qualify as "GUI-less" - i.e. the _interface_ is
terminal/cell-based, not graphics/pixel-based, and yet it let me read
this interesti
On 2009-07-29 02:36, Anthony Campbell wrote:
On 28 Jul 2009, John Hasler wrote:
Mark wrote:
When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install without the
desktop environment.
Ron Johnson writes:
But what will you *do* with it? Mutt will frustrate you to no end, and
the intarweb h
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:27:57 -0500 Manoj Srivastava wrote:
You get to create gestures, and bind them to keys, and with
fvwm-themes it is themable, it can be extended, and you can use perl
functions to add to fvwm.
All in all, I would say while heavy customization takes time,
you can ra
On 28 Jul 2009, John Hasler wrote:
> Mark wrote:
> > When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install without the
> > desktop environment.
>
> Ron Johnson writes:
> > But what will you *do* with it? Mutt will frustrate you to no end, and
> > the intarweb has become too graphics-orien
On 2009-07-29 01:03, Neal Hogan wrote:
[snip]
In an attempt to continue with the direction that this thread is now
on and bring it back to where it started, I politely suggest that you
RTFM and offer you this link http://xwinman.org/
Been quite a few years since I've been to that site. Even m
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28 2009, AG wrote:
Care to elaborate on that, John? This is a serious question - I used
to use Xfce back in the days of Slackware 8.1, but that was still a WM
(or was that a DE?). Are you referring to those FWM-like systems, or
something entirely differe
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2009-07-29 00:20, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 28 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> On 2009-07-28 13:09, Mark wrote:
>>> [snip]
When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install without
the
desktop
On 2009-07-29 00:20, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2009-07-28 13:09, Mark wrote:
[snip]
When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install without the
desktop environment.
But what will you *do* with it? Mutt will frustrate you to no end,
and t
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:22:05PM +0100, AG wrote:
> John Hasler wrote:
> >Mark wrote:
> >>When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install without the
> >>desktop environment.
> >
> >Ron Johnson writes:
> >>But what will you *do* with it? Mutt will frustrate you to no end, and
> >>t
On Tue, Jul 28 2009, AG wrote:
> Care to elaborate on that, John? This is a serious question - I used
> to use Xfce back in the days of Slackware 8.1, but that was still a WM
> (or was that a DE?). Are you referring to those FWM-like systems, or
> something entirely different?
I use fvw
On Tue, Jul 28 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2009-07-28 13:09, Mark wrote:
> [snip]
>> When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install without the
>> desktop environment.
>
> But what will you *do* with it? Mutt will frustrate you to no end,
> and the intarweb has become too graphic
On 2009-07-28 21:15, Nate Bargmann wrote:
* Ron Johnson [2009 Jul 28 13:46 -0500]:
I'd suggest that you first wean yourself off Nautilus, doing as much
file management as possible from the CLI. Then, one by one, find CLI
replacements for the management tasks you currently use a GUI for.
B
* Ron Johnson [2009 Jul 28 13:46 -0500]:
> I'd suggest that you first wean yourself off Nautilus, doing as much
> file management as possible from the CLI. Then, one by one, find CLI
> replacements for the management tasks you currently use a GUI for.
Balderdash!! Yes, knowing cp, mv, ls, a
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Mark wrote:
> Interesting thread. From a Debian/Linux and Debian email list newbie's
> perspective: I spent several months researching Debian (actually tried
> openSUSE before Debian), printing/reading manuals, wiki's, doing multiple
> installations trying differe
* Cybe R. Wizard [090728 13:33]:
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:09:59 -0700
> Mark wrote:
> [...]
> > When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install without
> > the desktop environment. I think this email list is filled with
> > people very comfortable using no desktop environment, but
John Hasler wrote:
Mark wrote:
When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install without the
desktop environment.
Ron Johnson writes:
But what will you *do* with it? Mutt will frustrate you to no end, and
the intarweb has become too graphics-oriented to make lynx/elink
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2009-07-28 16:03, Tim Beauregard wrote:
[snip]
Altavisting? Yahooing? It really is a jungle out there.
Altavista... Haven't thought about that in a good long time.
Yep - altavista brings back memories. Remember "web crawler"?
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On 2009-07-28 16:03, Tim Beauregard wrote:
[snip]
Altavisting? Yahooing? It really is a jungle out there.
Altavista... Haven't thought about that in a good long time.
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Mark wrote:
> When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install without the
> desktop environment.
Ron Johnson writes:
> But what will you *do* with it? Mutt will frustrate you to no end, and
> the intarweb has become too graphics-oriented to make lynx/elinks widely
> useful.
"No des
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