Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-24 Thread Dotan Cohen
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Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/24/2010 01:02 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 24 April 2010 02:38, Ron Johnson wrote: On 04/22/2010 03:54 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: [snip] It looks to me that Backports is the best for an everyday user who values stability, and prefers to use released software version. Please let me know where I

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-24 Thread Johan Grönqvist
2010-04-24 20:02, Dotan Cohen skrev: Thanks, Ron. I don't see the contradiction: I want released software, no betas or alphas. I am using the word "stable" as in "not crashy (doesn't fall down)", not in the sense of "doesn't change". I wondered if Testing or Unstable would provide that. I use

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-24 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 24 April 2010 02:38, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/22/2010 03:54 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > [snip] >> >> It looks to me that Backports is the best for an everyday >> user who values stability, and prefers to use released software >> version. Please let me know where I am mistaken. Thanks. > > "stabl

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-23 Thread Thomas Ferry
Im still learning how to use mailing lists I read alot but I dont reply alot. Testing would be your best bet. If you want current you need debian unstable.. I think you can get the binary's from the experiential repo though On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/22/2010 03:

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On 04/22/2010 03:54 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: [snip] It looks to me that Backports is the best for an everyday user who values stability, and prefers to use released software version. Please let me know where I am mistaken. Thanks. "stable with current releases" is a contradiction. If you want c

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-23 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2010-04-23, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Liam: > >>Or you could wait for the next stable release, or at least for the >>freeze announcement. > > Will it be 4.4 version of KDE in next release? - I thought, 4.3 - that is in > testing for now. > > I don't use KDE, so I

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-23 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Liam: >Or you could wait for the next stable release, or at least for the >freeze announcement. Will it be 4.4 version of KDE in next release? - I thought, 4.3 - that is in testing for now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org w

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Fedora 12 has KDE 4.4 and it's in a pretty stable shape. Also, it's > officially supported, > as opposed to OpenSUSE. > I used Fedora from Core 3 to 6. It got very unstable at that point, FC 6, 7, and 8 were breaking critical packages almost monthly. I am reluctant to go back. That said, I thin

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Aioanei Rares
On 04/22/2010 11:54 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: I am looking for KDE 4.4.2 and Open Office 3.2 packages for Lenny. I have found qt-kde.debian, Debian Experimental, Testing, Unstable, and Backports. It looks to me that Backports is the best for an everyday user who values stability, and prefers to use

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:13:49 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> It's hard for distributions to include the latest KDE SC available >> *and* deliver it as "stable". Rolling distros (such Arch Linux), which >> are always up-to-date, may fit better into this schema. >> >> > That is where a third-party repo

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
> It's hard for distributions to include the latest KDE SC available *and* > deliver it as "stable". Rolling distros (such Arch Linux), which are > always up-to-date, may fit better into this schema. > That is where a third-party repo would come in, such as Backports. Kubuntu, for all it's flaws,

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:26:07 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Unfortunately, the goals of always having the latest KDE and a stable >> distro are not compatible. >> >> > Not necessarily. KDE has a regular release schedule, with a point > release about once a month. I would consider a distro that inclu

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2010-04-22, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Have you asked other KDE contributors about their setups? >> > > Yes, there is a lot of favour towards Mandriva and Suse. Kubuntu with > Project Timelord is also being mentioned. If I jump ship from a Debian > based distro, it will likely be to Suse. Yes, you

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
> Unfortunately, the goals of always having the latest KDE and a stable distro > are not compatible. > Not necessarily. KDE has a regular release schedule, with a point release about once a month. I would consider a distro that included the latest point releases stable in the sense of no (or few)

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2010-04-22, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> I don't know of any backported binaries, so you would have to compile it >> yourself. That, however, would be a major undertaking, and presupposes >> that the latest KDE4 even compiles against the versions of the various >> libraries included in lenny. >> > > Y

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
> I don't know of any backported binaries, so you would have to compile it > yourself. That, however, would be a major undertaking, and presupposes > that the latest KDE4 even compiles against the versions of the various > libraries included in lenny. > Yes, compiling KDE is not a hassle that I wa

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2010-04-22, Dotan Cohen wrote: ---SNIP--- >From where to acquire KDE 4.4.2 in a reasonably safe manner? I don't know of any backported binaries, so you would have to compile it yourself. That, however, would be a major undertaking, and presupposes that the latest KDE4 even compiles against the

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 22 April 2010 12:25, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2010-04-22, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> I am looking for KDE 4.4.2 and Open Office 3.2 packages for Lenny. I >> have found qt-kde.debian, Debian Experimental, Testing, Unstable, and >> Backports. It looks to me that Backports is the best for an everyday

Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

2010-04-22 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2010-04-22, Dotan Cohen wrote: > I am looking for KDE 4.4.2 and Open Office 3.2 packages for Lenny. I > have found qt-kde.debian, Debian Experimental, Testing, Unstable, and > Backports. It looks to me that Backports is the best for an everyday > user who values stability, and prefers to use re