Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-27 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 8/27/2010 9:52 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=594512 > > I just updates most gross errors in CVS so updated page will show up > soon. Ah yes. The page should describe more of why aptitude vs apt-get, and let the user decide. -- . O . O . O . . O

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-27 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 09:54:54AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:27:58PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 06:23:56PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > > > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkgtools.en.html#s-aptitude > > > > This needs updat

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-27 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:36:52PM +, T o n g wrote: > On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:30:30 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > >> To hold a Debian package not to be updated by apt-get > >> > >> echo $package hold | dpkg --set-selections > >> > >> Please note that such holding will not work for aptitude.

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 07:09:04PM +, T o n g wrote: > Hi, > > I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to > do so? > > I read [1] that it is not a good idea. > Please comment. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/07/maillist.html -- "Religion is excel

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 27 aug 10, 01:07:22, s. keeling wrote: > > I've my own complaints about pkg managers (*everything* drags in > CUPS!) Package managers are not responsible by the dependencies set by individual packages. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lis

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread s. keeling
Osamu Aoki : > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:13:26PM +, s. keeling wrote: > > T o n g : > > > > > > I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it > > > OK to do so? > > > > Joey Hess wrote a long critique in here a couple of years ago, saying > > essentially yes. aptitu

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread T o n g
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:30:30 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: >> To hold a Debian package not to be updated by apt-get >> >> echo $package hold | dpkg --set-selections >> >> Please note that such holding will not work for aptitude. . . > > I just tested. It worked for me. Please elaborate a bit more

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread owens
> > > > Original Message >From: tom.brow...@gmail.com >To: aaron.topo...@gmail.com >Subject: Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:51:29 -0500 > >>On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 19:23, Aaron Toponce > wrote: >>> On 08/25/201

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Tom Browder
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:59, Aaron Toponce wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 08:51:29AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: >> Aside, can you post another blog (or another thread here) about why >> you use both Ubuntu and Debian? > > http://pthree.org/2009/02/19/server-migration-from-ubuntu-804-to-debian-5

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 08:51:29AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > Aside, can you post another blog (or another thread here) about why > you use both Ubuntu and Debian? http://pthree.org/2009/02/19/server-migration-from-ubuntu-804-to-debian-50/ Long story short- Debian does a better job at package qu

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:27:58PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 06:23:56PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkgtools.en.html#s-aptitude > > This needs update. This is very old. Why is this old? What is out-of-date? -- . O .

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Tom Browder
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 19:23, Aaron Toponce wrote: > On 08/25/2010 01:09 PM, T o n g wrote: >> I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to >> do so? > > Yes. However, aptitude is a much more powerful program. Check my blog > post on the many reasons to use aptitude o

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 09:08:10PM +, T o n g wrote: > First of all, sorry that I miss read your meaning. > > On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:47:30 -0400, Anticept . wrote: > > > Can apt-get hold back package updates like aptitude? This might be one > > of them. > > Yes, it can, but it's done at the

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 06:23:56PM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > On 08/25/2010 01:09 PM, T o n g wrote: > > I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to > > do so? > > Yes. However, aptitude is a much more powerful program. Check my blog > post on the many reasons to

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:13:26PM +, s. keeling wrote: > T o n g : > > > > I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it > > OK to do so? > > I've not read your link. > > Joey Hess wrote a long critique in here a couple of years ago, saying > essentially yes. a

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 09:08:10PM +, T o n g wrote: > First of all, sorry that I miss read your meaning. > > On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:47:30 -0400, Anticept . wrote: > > > Can apt-get hold back package updates like aptitude? This might be one > > of them. > > Yes, it can, but it's done at the

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-25 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 08/25/2010 01:09 PM, T o n g wrote: > I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to > do so? Yes. However, aptitude is a much more powerful program. Check my blog post on the many reasons to use aptitude over apt: http://pthree.org/2007/08/12/aptitude-vs-apt-get/

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-25 Thread s. keeling
T o n g : > > I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it > OK to do so? I've not read your link. Joey Hess wrote a long critique in here a couple of years ago, saying essentially yes. aptitude (I thimk) logs more of its actions than does apt-get, but other than that,

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-25 Thread Anticept .
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:21 PM, T o n g wrote: > On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:16:44 -0400, Anticept . wrote: > >>> I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK >>> to do so? >>> >>> I read [1] that it is not a good idea. Please comment. >>> . . . >>> >> There is no reason that

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-25 Thread T o n g
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:16:44 -0400, Anticept . wrote: >> I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK >> to do so? >> >> I read [1] that it is not a good idea. Please comment. >> . . . >> > There is no reason that these two can't be mixed. Aptitude, however, > keeps track

Re: Mixing apt-get and aptitude

2010-08-25 Thread Anticept .
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:09 PM, T o n g wrote: > Hi, > > I used to use either apt-get or aptitude to install packages. Is it OK to > do so? > > I read [1] that it is not a good idea. > Please comment. > thanks > > [1] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/mixing-apt-*-and- > aptitude-

Re: mixing apt-get and aptitude

2004-02-18 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-02-17, David penned: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 10:35:26PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> On 2004-02-17, David penned: >> > >> > Well.. I _just now_ did.. didn't get my first report formatted >> > right.. but I've just received acknowledgement that the report has >> > been received - bu

Re: mixing apt-get and aptitude

2004-02-17 Thread David
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 10:35:26PM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On 2004-02-17, David penned: > > > > Well.. I _just now_ did.. didn't get my first report formatted right.. > > but I've just received acknowledgement that the report has been > > received - bug #233129 > > Have you looked into t

Re: mixing apt-get and aptitude

2004-02-16 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-02-17, David penned: > > Well.. I _just now_ did.. didn't get my first report formatted right.. > but I've just received acknowledgement that the report has been > received - bug #233129 Have you looked into the reportbug utility? Takes all the effort out of putting together a proper debi

Re: mixing apt-get and aptitude

2004-02-16 Thread David
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:41:49PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:13:28AM -0600, David said > > However, it seems that aptitude always exits with status 0 regardless of > > what's happened. FWIW, I've filed a wishlist bugreport in this regard. > > Ah, cool. Well.. I _just no

Re: mixing apt-get and aptitude

2004-02-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:13:28AM -0600, David said > However, it seems that aptitude always exits with status 0 regardless of > what's happened. FWIW, I've filed a wishlist bugreport in this regard. Ah, cool. > Now, would it be the same to use apt-get for at least the update Yup. > , or > pe