Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-31 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:34:01 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 31 Jul 2012 at 10:56:09 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> > >> > Yes, I read about it. But this warning has to be new or at least I >> > don't recall GRUB legacy showing this notice when you wer

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-31 Thread Brian
On Tue 31 Jul 2012 at 10:56:09 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Camaleón wrote: > > > > Yes, I read about it. But this warning has to be new or at least I don't > > recall GRUB legacy showing this notice when you were going to install > > GRUB into a partition instead the M

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-31 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:03:12 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:50:44 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> >> > I'm not sure to had

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:03:12 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:50:44 -0400, Tom H wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: > > I'm not sure to had get it (sorry, I must be a bit dense...). Can you pro

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-29 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:50:44 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> I'm not sure to had get it (sorry, I must be a bit dense...). Can you >>> provide a user case for someone using block lists and another c

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-29 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:50:44 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> I'm not sure to had get it (sorry, I must be a bit dense...). Can you >> provide a user case for someone using block lists and another case when >> they're not in use? > > I've explained twic

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-29 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:14:10 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> Which, generally speaking, it translates into...? I mean, what are >>> those "block lists" and how are they effectively affecting the boo

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-29 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 19:11:41 -0400 (EDT), Tom H wrote: >> >> Thanks for the info and the links. You've misunderstood me. I didn't >> say that Linux could boot without a bootloader. I said that I didn't >> understand the purpose of the "Gene

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-16 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:09:54 +0100, Dom wrote: > On 16/07/12 15:41, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:14:10 -0400, Tom H wrote: (...) >>> Block lists are supposed to be less reliable/more fragile/(fill in >>> with the negative flavor that suits you). >> >> I'm not sure to had get it (sor

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-16 Thread Brian
On Mon 16 Jul 2012 at 17:09:54 +0100, Dom wrote: > On 16/07/12 15:41, Camaleón wrote: > > > >I'm not sure to had get it (sorry, I must be a bit dense...). Can you > >provide a user case for someone using block lists and another case when > >they're not in use? > > > > As I understand it, when GRU

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-16 Thread Dom
On 16/07/12 15:41, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:14:10 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Camaleón wrote: Which, generally speaking, it translates into...? I mean, what are those "block lists" and how are they effectively affecting the boot process from a user's

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-16 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:14:10 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Camaleón wrote: >> Which, generally speaking, it translates into...? I mean, what are >> those "block lists" and how are they effectively affecting the boot >> process from a user's point of view? > > Let's ass

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-15 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 19:11:41 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Camaleón wrote: >>> Reading from GRUB's legacy documentation¹, I see none listed. However, >>> GRUB2 manual² does not even mention the possibility of install

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-15 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 19:11:41 -0400 (EDT), Tom H wrote: > > Thanks for the info and the links. You've misunderstood me. I didn't > say that Linux could boot without a bootloader. I said that I didn't > understand the purpose of the "Generic Boot Code" since other > distributions don't use it when i

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-15 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 19:11:41 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> Reading from GRUB's legacy documentation¹, I see none listed. However, >> GRUB2 manual² does not even mention the possibility of installing GRUB2 >> into the first boot sector of a parti

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 15:31:36 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Camaleón wrote: > AFAIK this calls for block list based installation of GRUB 2 which is > not recommended cause it introduces the same issues than map

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:14:47 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote: > > *** > Write Generic Boot Code to MBR > Replaces the current MBR with generic, operating system independent code. > *** > > Why this option? I can't tell and I don't know (because I have not directly > tested) if there's any differenc

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 15:31:36 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Camaleón wrote: (...) AFAIK this calls for block list based installation of GRUB 2 which is not recommended cause it introduces the same issues than map file in LILO. >> >> I don't know what you m

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 09:06:55 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Martin Steigerwald >> wrote: Am Samstag, 7. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: Thanks for the explanation. I asked because if what you wanted is kee

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 09:06:55 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Martin Steigerwald > wrote: >>> Am Samstag, 7. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: (...) >>> Thanks for the explanation. I asked because if what you wanted is >>> keeping things separate (e.g., windows and linuxes boxe

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: >> Am Samstag, 7. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: >>> >>> Because it works for me. I've kept installs of previous versions of >>> Debian on separate partitions for reference as well as the fact that >>> by doing so I'll have a working install

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 7. Juli 2012 schrieb Camaleón: > > Because it works for me. I've kept installs of previous versions of > > Debian on separate partitions for reference as well as the fact that > > by doing so I'll have a working install while getting a newer version > > setup. Also when I first started

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-14 Thread Howard Eisenberger
On 2012-07-06, Mike McClain wrote: > I've used loadlin.exe for years but with my recent install of > Squeeze loadlin reboots the computer rather than launching Debian. I am able to boot linux from DOS using a boot loader from Gujin where loadlin has failed with big kernels. See http://guji

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-07 Thread Camaleón
El 2012-07-07 a las 10:01 -0700, Mike McClain escribió: (resending to the list) > Hello, > > I've noted from your posts that you're pretty savvy so I'm sorry > you have no experience in this area but I'm happy to answer your > questions. Thanks for your kind words; experience is a rank and

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-07 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 19:19:20 -0400 (EDT), Mike McClain wrote: > > I've used loadlin.exe for years but with my recent install of > Squeeze loadlin reboots the computer rather than launching Debian. > > The flip side of the issue is that grub2 resets the computer > trying to launch kernels that l

Re: Loadlin and Squeeze kernel 2.6.32

2012-07-07 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:19:20 -0700, Mike McClain wrote: > I've used loadlin.exe for years but with my recent install of > Squeeze loadlin reboots the computer rather than launching Debian. I never used loadlin before so I can't be of much help here. But, just out of curiosity, may I ask you