On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 07:08:54AM -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Tom H wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> > wrote:
> >> In , Tom H wrote:
> >>>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
>
> With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Tom H wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> wrote:
>> In , Tom H wrote:
>>>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
a desktop" if you go with
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
> In , Tom H wrote:
>>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
>>>
>>> With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
>>> a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
>>> packages
In , Tom H wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
>> With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
>> a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
>> packages and what ones are desktop packages?
>
>Server = X-less so WM-less, DE-les
In <20110406231712.gb7...@aurora.owens.net>, Rob Owens wrote:
>With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
>a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
>packages and what ones are desktop packages?
According to documents on Canonical's site, ther
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
>
> With Ubuntu (I believe) you get "5 years for a server" and "3 years for
> a desktop" if you go with an LTS release. What packages are server
> packages and what ones are desktop packages? I don't know. It would be
> nice to see a list somewhere.
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:37:16PM -0700, Mark wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Freeman wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:03:41PM -0400, Matt Harrison wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> > > wrote:
> > > > On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote
Dne, 06. 04. 2011 09:14:07 je Dave Sherohman napisal(a):
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 05:55:30PM +0200, Klistvud wrote:
> The leap from Lenny to Squeeze is not that big, after all. It's just
> like having Lenny on steroids. There are just too many goodies in
> Squeeze not to upgrade.
>
> What's the bi
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 05:55:30PM +0200, Klistvud wrote:
> The leap from Lenny to Squeeze is not that big, after all. It's just
> like having Lenny on steroids. There are just too many goodies in
> Squeeze not to upgrade.
>
> What's the big fuss? I've upgraded my better half and our two kids t
In , Tom H wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> wrote:
>> Someone that doesn't necessarily want to upgrade on Debian's schedule.
>> With Ubuntu, you can get 5 years, as opposed to Debian's ~3 years. With
>> SLE* you can get 10 years. I'm not sure about RHEL, but I thi
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:37:16PM -0700, Mark wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Freeman wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:03:41PM -0400, Matt Harrison wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > All fine pointshere you go:
> > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
>
> Someone that doesn't necessarily want to upgrade on Debian's schedule. With
> Ubuntu, you can get 5 years, as opposed to Debian's ~3 years. With SLE* you
> can get 10 years. I'm not sure about RHEL, but I think it is roughly a SL
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
>
> 10. Can I install server packages on an Ubuntu Desktop installation
> and vice versa?
>
> Yes – Ubuntu’s flexibility makes it easy. The Ubuntu software repositories
> do not isolate packages to particular types of deployments. All th
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Freeman wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:03:41PM -0400, Matt Harrison wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> > wrote:
> > > On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote:
> > >>
> > >>Are we seriously going to argue about which version
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:03:41PM -0400, Matt Harrison wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> wrote:
> > On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote:
> >>
> >>Are we seriously going to argue about which version of Ubuntu is
> >>supported for how long?
> >
> > I think it
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
> On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote:
>>On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
>> wrote:
>>> On 2011-04-05 12:07:16 George Standish wrote:
On 05/04/11 01:04 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On 2011-04-
On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> wrote:
>> On 2011-04-05 12:07:16 George Standish wrote:
>>>On 05/04/11 01:04 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On 2011-04-05 11:51:13 George Standish wrote:
>> If you need more support tha
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
> On 2011-04-05 12:07:16 George Standish wrote:
>>On 05/04/11 01:04 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>>> On 2011-04-05 11:51:13 George Standish wrote:
> If you need more support than Debian provides and<= 5 years, install an
>
On 2011-04-05 12:07:16 George Standish wrote:
>On 05/04/11 01:04 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>> On 2011-04-05 11:51:13 George Standish wrote:
If you need more support than Debian provides and<= 5 years, install an
Ubuntu LTS.
>>>
>>> Just to clarify, Ubuntu LTS releases are 5 years
On 05/04/11 01:04 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
On 2011-04-05 11:51:13 George Standish wrote:
If you need more support than Debian provides and<= 5 years, install an
Ubuntu LTS.
Just to clarify, Ubuntu LTS releases are 5 years for the server version,
3 years for the desktop version.
They
On 2011-04-05 11:51:13 George Standish wrote:
>> If you need more support than Debian provides and<= 5 years, install an
>> Ubuntu LTS.
>
>Just to clarify, Ubuntu LTS releases are 5 years for the server version,
>3 years for the desktop version.
They use the same repositories. What exactly is the
On 2011-04-05 09:56:13 Mark wrote:
If you need more support than Debian provides and<= 5 years, install an Ubuntu
LTS.
Just to clarify, Ubuntu LTS releases are 5 years for the server version,
3 years for the desktop version.
George
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On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 11:42:42AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> If you need more
> support than Debian provides and <= 5 years, install an Ubuntu LTS.
That won't buy you that much AFAIK since the LTS 5 years support it's limited
to the server version and doesn't include universe(?). Ok
On 2011-04-05 09:56:13 Mark wrote:
>Hypothetically if a user doesn't want to upgrade to Squeeze, what would they
>have to do once Lenny stops being supported by Debian?
Eventually, they will get owned and become a zombie that SPAMs (or worse) the
rest of us. Depending on the amount of effort you
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 07:56:13 -0700, Mark wrote:
> Hypothetically if a user doesn't want to upgrade to Squeeze, what would
> they have to do once Lenny stops being supported by Debian?
The user should track security flaws by himself and apply the patches
(which usually involves compiling).
> L
Dne, 05. 04. 2011 16:56:13 je Mark napisal(a):
Hypothetically if a user doesn't want to upgrade to Squeeze, what
would they
have to do once Lenny stops being supported by Debian? Let's assume
the
machines are used primarily for web surfing, including using flash.
Would
they need to install
security updates
protocol updates (IPv6 is comming to town)
most users deal better with smaller and incremental interface changes
2011/4/5 Mark
> Hypothetically if a user doesn't want to upgrade to Squeeze, what would
> they have to do once Lenny stops being supported by Debian? Let's assume
>
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