word choices on list (Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian)

2015-08-13 Thread Joel Rees
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shite Thus, yes, it's not appropriate language here. The problem with expletives is not in the words themselves, really. Fecal matter is what it is, whatever it is called. The problem is that the metaphor inherently fails. People hear instead that the speaker is up

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-08-13 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 24 May 2015 07:50:58 +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > But will it become something to watch out for when buying new hardware? > Most certainly, at least for a period of time. I have a sneaking > suspicion that it might become a bigger problem for laptop users than > for desktop users, although

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-28 Thread Deb
On 05/28/2015 01:41 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2015, Deb wrote: On 27/05/15 05:21 PM, deloptes wrote: Patrick Bartek wrote: Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to replace my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 years depending on which parts). Going to abandon

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-28 Thread Steve McIntyre
nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: >On Wed, 27 May 2015, Deb wrote: > >> I just want to add that my Jessie 8.0 is fully UEFI-compatible and >> boots UEFI with zero issues. So did the netinstaller. But I don't >> remember whether I've ever seen Wheezy installed for UEFI boot. > >Figured Jessie was, just NOT

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-27 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 27 May 2015, deloptes wrote: > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to > > replace my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 years depending on which > > parts). Going to abandoned the Big Box forever. Need to be very > > portable in the next

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-27 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 27 May 2015, Deb wrote: > > > On 27/05/15 05:21 PM, deloptes wrote: > > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > >> Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to > >> replace my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 years depending on which > >> parts). Going to abandoned the Big Box forever.

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-27 Thread Deb
On 27/05/15 05:21 PM, deloptes wrote: Patrick Bartek wrote: Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to replace my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 years depending on which parts). Going to abandoned the Big Box forever. Need to be very portable in the next year or two. Two que

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-27 Thread deloptes
Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to replace > my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 years depending on which parts). Going to > abandoned the Big Box forever. Need to be very portable in the next year > or two. Two questions to begin: > > 1. Many la

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-27 Thread Richard Hector
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 26/05/15 20:53, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I object to your language. Both the swearing and the constant > unwarranted use of the word malicious. The swearing is against the code of conduct of the list, even. https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeo

Virtual Machines <- Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-26 Thread ken
On 05/26/2015 05:18 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: Second, virtual machines these days are incredibly easy to set up and use. Steve Litt posted a link to an introductory article on qemu/KVM here very recently, I suggest that as a starting point. There is a tool called "Virtual Machine Manager" (package:

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-26 Thread Petter Adsen
On Tue, 26 May 2015 11:18:00 +0200 Petter Adsen wrote: > Second, virtual machines these days are incredibly easy to set up and > use. Steve Litt posted a link to an introductory article on qemu/KVM > here very recently, I suggest that as a starting point. There is a Sorry about that, the post was

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-26 Thread Petter Adsen
On Tue, 26 May 2015 16:58:05 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 26/05/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > On Tue, 26 May 2015 12:23:25 +0800 > > Bret Busby wrote: > > > >> On 26/05/2015, Stuart Longland wrote: > >> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> > Hash: SHA512 > >> > > >> > On 24/05/15 19:03, P

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-26 Thread Bret Busby
On 26/05/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 26 May 2015 05:15:10 Bret Busby wrote: >> On 26/05/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> > On Monday 25 May 2015 20:56:58 Bret Busby wrote: >> >> On 26/05/2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote: >> >> > On Tue, 2015-05-26 at 00:59 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> >> But, in

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-26 Thread Bret Busby
On 26/05/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Tue, 26 May 2015 12:23:25 +0800 > Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 26/05/2015, Stuart Longland wrote: >> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> > Hash: SHA512 >> > >> > On 24/05/15 19:03, Petter Adsen wrote: >> >> If both Wheezy and Trusty are installed in legac

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-26 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 26 May 2015 05:15:10 Bret Busby wrote: > On 26/05/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 25 May 2015 20:56:58 Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 26/05/2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > >> > On Tue, 2015-05-26 at 00:59 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > >> >> But, in going to the company web site, I found th

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-25 Thread Petter Adsen
On Tue, 26 May 2015 12:23:25 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > On 26/05/2015, Stuart Longland wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA512 > > > > On 24/05/15 19:03, Petter Adsen wrote: > >> If both Wheezy and Trusty are installed in legacy mode the > >> bootloader should see all of th

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 26/05/2015, Stuart Longland wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 24/05/15 19:03, Petter Adsen wrote: >> If both Wheezy and Trusty are installed in legacy mode the >> bootloader should see all of them. Dependent on your needs, an >> easier way might be to just spin u

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 26/05/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 25 May 2015 20:56:58 Bret Busby wrote: >> On 26/05/2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote: >> > On Tue, 2015-05-26 at 00:59 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> But, in going to the company web site, I found the web site to be one >> >> of those malicious web sites, tha

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-25 Thread Stuart Longland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 24/05/15 19:03, Petter Adsen wrote: > If both Wheezy and Trusty are installed in legacy mode the > bootloader should see all of them. Dependent on your needs, an > easier way might be to just spin up a VM or three with the systems > you use the le

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 25 May 2015 20:56:58 Bret Busby wrote: > On 26/05/2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > On Tue, 2015-05-26 at 00:59 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > >> But, in going to the company web site, I found the web site to be one > >> of those malicious web sites, that crash web browsers (the web browser >

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 26/05/2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Tue, 2015-05-26 at 00:59 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> But, in going to the company web site, I found the web site to be one >> of those malicious web sites, that crash web browsers (the web browser >> starts displaying the home page of the web site, and the

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-25 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2015-05-26 at 00:59 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > But, in going to the company web site, I found the web site to be one > of those malicious web sites, that crash web browsers (the web browser > starts displaying the home page of the web site, and then crashes, > while downloading the home pag

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/05/2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 25 May 2015 08:35:40 Bret Busby wrote: >> On 25/05/2015, Patrick Bartek wrote: >> > On Sun, 24 May 2015, Paul E Condon wrote: >> >> > >> With UEFI and the forced Security Boot that is part of UEFI, with >> toxic waste Setup Utilities like Inshite, whi

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 25 May 2015 08:35:40 Bret Busby wrote: > On 25/05/2015, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Sun, 24 May 2015, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > With UEFI and the forced Security Boot that is part of UEFI, with > toxic waste Setup Utilities like Inshite, which fraudulently > misrepresents that it imp

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/05/2015, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Sun, 24 May 2015, Paul E Condon wrote: > > UEFI isn't the problem. Most all Linux distros support and can use > it. It's Secure Boot which requires a Microsoft key that's the > problem. If you can't turn it off, you can't install another OS. > And if

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-25 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sun, 24 May 2015 20:31:40 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Sun, 24 May 2015, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > [BIG snip] > > Two comments: > > > > 1) I saw a few days ago, an NewEgg.com advert. for a specialized > > HD/SSD combo. from Western Digital. It is a drop-in replacement for > > a SATA H

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-25 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sun, 24 May 2015 17:39:08 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Sun, 24 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > > On Sat, 23 May 2015 12:46:10 -0700 > > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 23 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:04:55 -0700 > > > > Patrick Bartek wr

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 24 May 2015, Paul E Condon wrote: > > [BIG snip] > Two comments: > > 1) I saw a few days ago, an NewEgg.com advert. for a specialized > HD/SSD combo. from Western Digital. It is a drop-in replacement for a > SATA HD that combines in the same SATA physical outline, a 120GB SSD > and a 1TB

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-24 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150524_1739-0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Sun, 24 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > > On Sat, 23 May 2015 12:46:10 -0700 > > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 23 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:04:55 -0700 > > > > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > >

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-24 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 24 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Sat, 23 May 2015 12:46:10 -0700 > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Sat, 23 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:04:55 -0700 > > > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > I've read about that, but right now until W10 in its final form

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-24 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sun, 24 May 2015 16:12:50 +0800 Bret Busby wrote: > Oh, and one thing that I forgot to mention, is that, due to the > immovable files, the Microshite Windows 8.x installation occupies > about 250GB of unusable disk space. > > Now, it has occurred to me that it could be a good idea to install >

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-24 Thread Bret Busby
On 24/05/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 23/05/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: >> On Fri, 22 May 2015 23:53:14 -0700 >> Patrick Bartek wrote: >> >>> >>> Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to >>> replace my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 years depending on which parts). >>> Going to a

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-24 Thread Bret Busby
On 23/05/2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 22 May 2015 23:53:14 -0700 > Patrick Bartek wrote: > >> >> Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to >> replace my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 years depending on which parts). >> Going to abandoned the Big Box forever. Need to be v

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-23 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sat, 23 May 2015 12:46:10 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Sat, 23 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > > On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:04:55 -0700 > > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > I've read about that, but right now until W10 in its final form is > > > release, nobody really knows for sure. > > > > W

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-23 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 23 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:04:55 -0700 > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Sat, 23 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 22 May 2015 23:53:14 -0700 > > > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-23 Thread Petter Adsen
On Sat, 23 May 2015 09:04:55 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Sat, 23 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > > > On Fri, 22 May 2015 23:53:14 -0700 > > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > > > > Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to > > > replace my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 yea

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-23 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 23 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Fri, 22 May 2015 23:53:14 -0700 > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to > > replace my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 years depending on which parts). > > Going to abandoned the Big Box forever.

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-05-23 Thread Petter Adsen
On Fri, 22 May 2015 23:53:14 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to > replace my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 years depending on which parts). > Going to abandoned the Big Box forever. Need to be very portable in > the next year or two. Two

Re: LAPTOPS

2003-03-10 Thread matt zagrabelny
> Hello, you guys have been very helpful in the past so heres another one > for yus! > I'm about to take the plunge and pick up a laptop. My first laptop in a > number of years. > So, what, if any, suggestions comments or what have you might the experts > suggest I consider > when making my dec

Re: LAPTOPS

2003-03-10 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 15:32, james leclair wrote: > So, what, if any, suggestions comments or what have you might the experts > suggest I consider > when making my decision on a brand of craptop? i've had 2 IBM thinkpads in a row and i've been very happy with the hardware support under linux. m

Re: LAPTOPS

2003-03-10 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 02:16:16PM -0900, Greg Madden wrote: > On Monday 10 March 2003 11:32 am, james leclair wrote: > > Hello, you guys have been very helpful in the past so heres another one > > for yus! > > I'm about to take the plunge and pick up a laptop. My first laptop in a > > number of y

Re: LAPTOPS

2003-03-10 Thread Vineet Kumar
* james leclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030310 13:38 PST]: > > > So, what, if any, suggestions comments or what have you might the experts > suggest I consider > when making my decision on a brand of craptop? Well, I don't know that it counts as expert advice, but I've been happily using an IBM

Re: LAPTOPS

2003-03-10 Thread Greg Madden
On Monday 10 March 2003 11:32 am, james leclair wrote: > Hello, you guys have been very helpful in the past so heres another one > for yus! > I'm about to take the plunge and pick up a laptop. My first laptop in a > number of years. > So, what, if any, suggestions comments or what have you might t

Re: LAPTOPS

2003-03-10 Thread Jamin Collins
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:32:36PM -0400, james leclair wrote: > Hello, you guys have been very helpful in the past so heres another > one for yus! I'm about to take the plunge and pick up a laptop. My > first laptop in a number of years. So, what, if any, suggestions > comments or what have y

Re: LAPTOPS

2003-03-10 Thread donw
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:32:36PM -0400, james leclair wrote: > Hello, you guys have been very helpful in the past so heres another one > for yus! > I'm about to take the plunge and pick up a laptop. My first laptop in a > number of years. > So, what, if any, suggestions comments or what have y

Re: LAPTOPS

2003-03-10 Thread Pavlos Parissis
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:32:36 -0400 james leclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello, you guys have been very helpful in the past so heres another one > for yus! > I'm about to take the plunge and pick up a laptop. My first laptop in a > number of years. > So, what, if any, suggestio

Re: LAPTOPS

2003-03-10 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 14:32, james leclair wrote: > Hello, you guys have been very helpful in the past so heres another one > for yus! > I'm about to take the plunge and pick up a laptop. My first laptop in a > number of years. > So, what, if any, suggestions comments or what have you might the

Re: Laptops!

2002-11-20 Thread Greg Madden
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 07:14 am, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 06:24:52AM -0900, Greg Madden wrote: > > As mentioned most laptops/hardware are supported by GNU/Linux. > > One item that is dissapearing from laptops is a real serial port. > > This isn't really that big of a

Re: Laptops!

2002-11-20 Thread Robert L. Harris
gt; Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:51:44 + > From: p <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Robert L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Laptops! > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 08:32:10AM -0500, Robert L. Harris wrote: > > > > &

Re: Laptops!

2002-11-20 Thread p
booger is the cdrom > and floppy are usb, makes debian installs a bit of a problem, or did > with Debian2.2, haven't tried 3.0. > > > Thus spake Michael P. Soulier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:19:08 -0500 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: Laptops!

2002-11-20 Thread Robert L. Harris
Ok, I don't use OO much which explains why I haven't seen it. Thus spake Michael P. Soulier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:32:42 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Laptops! > X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4i (Debian Linux 2.4.16, i686) > From: &qu

Re: Laptops!

2002-11-20 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 10:32:42AM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > I'm told that X 4.2 will fix that, but I haven't tried it yet. I need > to set up pinning so that I only get X 4.2, and not the rest of > unstable. sawfish in unstable sucks at the moment. Isn't X 4.2 in testing now? Setting

Re: Laptops!

2002-11-20 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 06:24:52AM -0900, Greg Madden wrote: > As mentioned most laptops/hardware are supported by GNU/Linux. > One item that is dissapearing from laptops is a real serial port. This isn't really that big of an item since there is normally at least one USB port on the unit and US

Re: Laptops!

2002-11-20 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 20/11/02 Robert L. Harris did speaketh: > Mike, What bug? I'm using a VAIO since my last dell died. It makes a > good little XTerm for ssh'ing to a heavier box for mail, etc (my Vaio is > only a P2 with 96Megs) The only problem with the booger is the cdrom > and floppy are usb, makes debian

Re: Laptops!

2002-11-20 Thread Greg Madden
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 01:51 am, james leclair wrote: > Hello, > Could someone be so kind as to recommend a model and brand name of > laptop I should consider purchasing to run debian on? Thanks in > advance, you guys have been real helpful!! > James As mentioned most laptops/hardware are s

Re: Laptops!

2002-11-20 Thread Robert L. Harris
r did with Debian2.2, haven't tried 3.0. Thus spake Michael P. Soulier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:19:08 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Laptops! > X-Mailer: Mutt 1.4i (Debian Linux 2.4.16, i686) > From: "Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Laptops!

2002-11-20 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 20/11/02 james leclair did speaketh: > Hello, > Could someone be so kind as to recommend a model and brand name of laptop I > should consider purchasing to run debian on? Thanks in advance, you guys > have been real helpful!! I wouldn't concern yourself too much with the laptop model, as

Re: Laptops!

2002-11-20 Thread Robert L. Harris
I've had great luck with Dell laptops. Especially with a "name brand" pcmcia nic card (just remember NOT to remove the pcmcia drivers after intstall) The next laptop I buy will be a dell and I detest their desktops if that says much. Thus spake james leclair ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Date:

Re: Laptops!

2002-11-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:51:51AM -0800, james leclair wrote: > Hello, > Could someone be so kind as to recommend a model and brand name of laptop I > should consider purchasing to run debian on? Thanks in advance, you guys > have been real helpful!! > James There's a debian-laptop list which m

Re: Laptops!

2002-11-20 Thread D.
--- james leclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > Could someone be so kind as to recommend a model and > brand name of laptop I > should consider purchasing to run debian on? Thanks > in advance, you guys > have been real helpful!! > James > I have Debian Testing running on a HP Pavilion

Re: LAPTOPS AND TWO DIFFERENT WORKPLACES (OT)

2001-10-05 Thread D.
Thanks for all of the suggestions that I received on this. I have passed them on. Don --- Dimitri Maziuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * D. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > > Hi all, > > The system administrator at work is a > subcontract > > employee. He is also the administrator at his > >

Re: LAPTOPS AND TWO DIFFERENT WORKPLACES (OT)

2001-10-05 Thread martin f krafft
* D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.10.04 10:28:19-0700]: > The system administrator at work is a subcontract > employee. He is also the administrator at his > company. The company that I work for also has > employe's from his company working here and they > travel back and forth between companies a

Re: [OT] Re: LAPTOPS AND TWO DIFFERENT WORKPLACES (OT)

2001-10-04 Thread Kent West
Gary Hennigan wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The system administrator at work is a subcontract employee. He is also the administrator at his company. The company that I work for also has employe's from his company working here and they travel back and forth between companies and use their

[OT] Re: LAPTOPS AND TWO DIFFERENT WORKPLACES (OT)

2001-10-04 Thread Gary Hennigan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The system administrator at work is a subcontract > employee. He is also the administrator at his > company. The company that I work for also has > employe's from his company working here and they > travel back and forth between companies and use their > M$ laptops a

Re: LAPTOPS AND TWO DIFFERENT WORKPLACES (OT)

2001-10-04 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* D. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > Hi all, > The system administrator at work is a subcontract > employee. He is also the administrator at his > company. The company that I work for also has > employe's from his company working here and they > travel back and forth between companies and u

Re: Laptops for Debian GNU/Linux?

2000-12-04 Thread Chris Black
I've had great experiences with my Thinkpad 770E and a20p. Although, you will have to run XFree86 4.0.1 on the a20p for best performance. On Monday 04 December 2000 05:13, Christoph Gaitzsch wrote: > "Dexter Graphic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The site is a rich source of information on G

Re: Laptops for Debian GNU/Linux? (about TOSHIBA)

2000-12-04 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi possible notebook buyers I can understand some negative feelings toward Toshiba notebook because it took some tweekings before booting into normal multiuser mode without freezing Keyboard. (I saw a nasy comment in this thread) In conclusion, Linux installation to notebook PC may be not as eas

Re: Laptops for Debian GNU/Linux?

2000-12-04 Thread Christoph Gaitzsch
"Dexter Graphic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The site is a rich source of information on GNU/Linux laptops. > > http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ > > But it's almost too much information and to general in nature > to be of immediate use. I still have no idea how to go abou

Re: Laptops for Debian GNU/Linux?

2000-12-03 Thread Jack Morgan
"J. Bruce Fields" wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Nate Amsden wrote: > > I would say > > > > Avoid toshiba > > This isn't quite fair to Mr. Amsden, who it seems has a lot of experience > with linux on laptops, but--please be careful with statements that lump > together all laptops of a certain bra

Re: Laptops for Debian GNU/Linux?

2000-12-03 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Nate Amsden wrote: > I would say > > Avoid toshiba This isn't quite fair to Mr. Amsden, who it seems has a lot of experience with linux on laptops, but--please be careful with statements that lump together all laptops of a certain brand. Experiences with a few representatives

Re: Laptops for Debian GNU/Linux?

2000-12-03 Thread dirk
I just got me a Toshiba 3440CT portege. I am struggling to get things working, but that's part of the fun. What I managed so far is to get X working, that is by far the most important. Sound on this thing is not so interesting, unless you hook it up to some decent speakers. Didn't try IrDA yet (c

Re: Laptops for Debian GNU/Linux?

2000-12-03 Thread Nate Amsden
I would say Avoid toshiba Dell, and IBM laptops seem to work very well with Linux, and from what i gather from the catalogs elinux.com sends me it seems the new compaqs work well with linux. I have personally setup several dell latitude(not sure what model, but it had a celeron 400 128MB ram, 12G

Re: Laptops and Linux (was: Re: tecra bootdisk)

2000-08-04 Thread Christopher Tessone
On 3 August 2000 at 23:05, Rogerio Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm in the market for a new computer and I'm still deciding if > I'll go with a desktop or with a laptop... I'm looking for > something that uses only free-software, without third-party > drivers and th