Dne, 20. 12. 2012 04:24:36 je Daniel Dalton napisal(a):
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:45:25PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Daniel Dalton wrote:
> > But should the knew kernel really improve battery life by
apparently
> > 5-6 hours (according to powertop)
>
> Five to six hours of improvement would b
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 12:45:25PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Daniel Dalton wrote:
> > But should the knew kernel really improve battery life by apparently
> > 5-6 hours (according to powertop)
>
> Five to six hours of improvement would be a very large amount.
> Probably more than is reasonable.
On 12/18/2012 02:45 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
Daniel Dalton wrote:
But should the knew kernel really improve battery life by apparently
5-6 hours (according to powertop)
Five to six hours of improvement would be a very large amount.
Probably more than is reasonable. But smaller amounts would not b
Daniel Dalton wrote:
> But should the knew kernel really improve battery life by apparently
> 5-6 hours (according to powertop)
Five to six hours of improvement would be a very large amount.
Probably more than is reasonable. But smaller amounts would not be
unusual.
> Wouldn't device drivers be
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:55:08PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Jochen Spieker wrote:
> > Daniel Dalton wrote:
> > > My question: does 64 bit debian use more battery power than 32 bit?
> >
> > Short answer: no. The relevant difference is probably Debian vs. Ubuntu
> > here.
>
> Agreed. The differ
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:39:17AM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> Daniel Dalton:
> >
> > My question: does 64 bit debian use more battery power than 32 bit?
>
> Short answer: no. The relevant difference is probably Debian vs. Ubuntu
> here.
Good news. So now just to figure out how ubuntu is out
Jochen Spieker wrote:
> Daniel Dalton wrote:
> > My question: does 64 bit debian use more battery power than 32 bit?
>
> Short answer: no. The relevant difference is probably Debian vs. Ubuntu
> here.
Agreed. The difference is probably the linux kernel version. Ubuntu
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Daniel Dalton:
>
> My question: does 64 bit debian use more battery power than 32 bit?
Short answer: no. The relevant difference is probably Debian vs. Ubuntu
here.
> Should I return to a 32 bit set up if battery life is important to me?
> Or is there perhaps something that maybe isn't configur
On Mon, 28 May 2012 08:16:53 +0200, steef wrote in message
<4fc31855.9080...@home.nl>:
> acpi -b (?)
..I raise you "i": arnt@celsius:/tmp$ acpi -bi
Battery 0: Unknown, 91%
Battery 0: design capacity 5200 mAh, last full capacity 5200 mAh = 100%
arnt@celsius:/tmp$
..acpi -V and acpi -h are also
On Sunday, May 27, 2012 21:37:49, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery.
>
> In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on AC
> with the battery installed because it would cause reduced battery
> capacity.
That's correct m
On Sun, 27 May 2012 18:37:49 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery.
>
> In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on AC
> with the battery installed because it would cause reduced battery
> capacity. This raises tw
Robert Holtzman wrote at 2012-05-27 20:37 -0500:
> how many cycles is a battery like mine good for?
If your laptop supports SMAPI, *use it*. In my opinion, it *really* helps
increase the lifespan of the battery. It is unfortunate that more devices do
not support SMAPI or an equivalent.
My bat
On 28/05/12 14:01, Doug wrote:
> On 05/27/2012 09:57 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 28/05/12 11:37, Robert Holtzman wrote:
>>> For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery.
>>>
>>> In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on
>>> AC with the battery inst
On Mon, 2012-05-28 at 07:10 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-05-28 at 00:01 -0400, Doug wrote:
> > On 05/27/2012 09:57 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> > > On 28/05/12 11:37, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> > >> For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery.
> > >>
> > >> In the pas
acpi -b (?)
reg.,
steef
Doug wrote:
On 05/27/2012 09:57 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 28/05/12 11:37, Robert Holtzman wrote:
For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery.
In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on
AC with the battery installed
On Mon, 2012-05-28 at 00:01 -0400, Doug wrote:
> On 05/27/2012 09:57 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> > On 28/05/12 11:37, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> >> For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery.
> >>
> >> In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on
> >> AC
On 05/27/2012 09:57 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 28/05/12 11:37, Robert Holtzman wrote:
For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery.
In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on
AC with the battery installed because it would cause reduced battery
c
On 28/05/12 11:37, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery.
>
> In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on
> AC with the battery installed because it would cause reduced battery
> capacity.
Your Li-ion battery will have
On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:08:28 +0100, Lorenzo wrote in message
<4f42b64c.3010...@gmail.com>:
> On 18/02/2012 22:36, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> I've read about the freezer thing wonder if it works.
>
..every time this far, but dragging along a freezer to boot
up a laptop, sort of defeats the laptop c
On 18/02/2012 22:36, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:51:27 +0100, Lorenzo wrote in message
<4f3e4d4f.6090...@gmail.com>:
Hi Darac,
Thanks for the very insightful information...
On 17/02/12 13:38, Darac Marjal wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:10:31PM +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:51:27 +0100, Lorenzo wrote in message
<4f3e4d4f.6090...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Darac,
>
> Thanks for the very insightful information...
>
> On 17/02/12 13:38, Darac Marjal wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:10:31PM +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
> >> I am running XFCE 4.8 on d
Hi Darac,
Thanks for the very insightful information...
On 17/02/12 13:38, Darac Marjal wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:10:31PM +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
I am running XFCE 4.8 on debian wheezy on my laptop and since about
two weeks the xfce Power Manager gets the battery charge percentage
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:10:31PM +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
> I am running XFCE 4.8 on debian wheezy on my laptop and since about
> two weeks the xfce Power Manager gets the battery charge percentage
> wrong, the most critical problem being that the machine shuts off
> without any previous warn
john gennard wrote:
I am most grateful to the seventeen persons who
responded to my request; it would take up a lot of list
space to reply to each.
In a few weeks, I'll be 76 and do not need to
use a battery as I've no intention or need to take the
machine outdoors. I could easily buy a
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 01:14 pm, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> > AFAIK thinkpads will not run without butteries. Don't know if its a
> design > > feature of flaw though.
>>
>> Nope, they run without the battery. Had my roommate unplug the
> battery while > in the truck the other day by a
On Saturday 18 February 2006 16:27, Micha Feigin wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:32:48 +
>
> john gennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am most grateful to the seventeen persons who
> > responded to my request; it would take up a lot of list
> > space to reply to each.
> >
> > In a f
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:42 am, M-L wrote:
>> [installed with win2.1]
Sorry, that should be win 3.1
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:27 am, Micha Feigin wrote:
>> AFAIK thinkpads will not run without butteries. Don't know if its a
> design > feature of flaw though.
>>
>> Not sure what would happen with a dead battery.
I can't speak for Thinkpads, but previously I had a brand that I can't e
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 08:32 pm, john gennard wrote:
>> a. Is it harmful to use the Laptop with Adapter
>> without any battery on board?
No way, works a treat without the battery. My brother-in-law has used a
Toshiba laptop without a battery for 5 years and it runs like on rails still.
I ha
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 09:32:48 +
john gennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am most grateful to the seventeen persons who
> responded to my request; it would take up a lot of list
> space to reply to each.
>
> In a few weeks, I'll be 76 and do not need to
> use a battery as I've no
john gennard wrote:
a. Is it harmful to use the Laptop with Adapter
without any battery on board?
My laptop (used Thinkpad 390 from E-bay with DOA battery) required that
the battery, even though totally dead, be in the laptop to run off of
the adaptor. Without the battery, the circuit
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006, john gennard wrote:
> a. Is it harmful to use the Laptop with Adapter
> WITHOUT any battery on board?
You have got a IBM ThinkPad. It is higly doubtful that the machine would
care if the battery is plugged in or not, but it is certain that if it does,
the manual warns a
On Saturday 18 February 2006 04:32, john gennard wrote:
> I am most grateful to the seventeen persons who
>responded to my request; it would take up a lot of list
>space to reply to each.
>
> In a few weeks, I'll be 76 and do not need to
>use a battery as I've no intention or need to take the
>mach
I am most grateful to the seventeen persons who
responded to my request; it would take up a lot of list
space to reply to each.
In a few weeks, I'll be 76 and do not need to
use a battery as I've no intention or need to take the
machine outdoors. I could easily buy a new battery,
Just for those who want to read up on this subject, from a non
engineer point of view you might want to check out this link, or
read the gentleman's fine book.
http://www.buchmann.ca/toc.asp
This topic came up on the 1.7 volt Panasonic battery topic I was
involved with some time ago. Oh if you
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 04:51 am, john gennard wrote:
>> Just before Christmas, I bought a secondhand T20
>> Laptop and installed Sarge which works fine.
>>
>> The vendor said there was a battery which 'worked
>> well'. Embarrassingly, I have so far always used the T20
>> with
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Micha Feigin wrote:
> If the battery is Li-Ion then their nice due to relatively high capacity and
> presumably no memory but they have a lifespan of about two to two and a half
> years without regard to usage (storing them half charged when not used is best
> though).
T20s ha
Sorry the sent button took me by surprise and for a change it had to work the
first time.
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:07:46 +0200
Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:51:59 +
> john gennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Just before Christmas, I bought a secondha
Paul Johnson wrote:
Draining NiCds and NiMH batteries to empty is harmful. Don't do it, you're
asking for permanent battery damage. It only works as a stopgap measure if
As a little bit more info on that, a battery is a collection of cells.
Not all the cells will discharge at exactly the s
On Friday 17 February 2006 10:05, John M Flinchbaugh wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 05:51:59PM +, john gennard wrote:
> > I've just recharged the battery which took just
> > over 23 minutes to reach 'fully charged'. Then switching
> > to it, in one minute I got 'Running off battery 11 min
On Friday 17 February 2006 09:51, john gennard wrote:
> Can anyone offer any suggestions (solice is perhaps
> too much to hope for). I've never had anything to do with
> Laptops before, so I'm in the dark.
With batteries, they're not something you can buy used with any great
reliability.
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:51:59 +
john gennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just before Christmas, I bought a secondhand T20
Laptop and installed Sarge which works fine.
The vendor said there was a battery which 'worked
well'.
I've just recharged the battery whi
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:51:59 +
john gennard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just before Christmas, I bought a secondhand T20
> Laptop and installed Sarge which works fine.
>
> The vendor said there was a battery which 'worked
> well'. Embarrassingly, I have so far always used the T20
John M Flinchbaugh wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 01:19:32PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Once the battery meter warned me that I had 0 minutes left, I rebooted
it to the LILO prompt, stopped it there and let it drain the battery
until it just died and couldn't be turned back on. I think
Your battery she is deceased and no more.
The good news is one can be had for not to much.
I find on eBay from 1.47 (44 shipping) to about $80 I didn't chekc the
shipping)
for a thinkpad T20 battery.
RbtBotL
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 01:05:21PM -0500, John M Flinchbaugh wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 05:51:59PM +, john gennard wrote:
I've just recharged the battery which took just
over 23 minutes to reach 'fully charged'. Then switching
to it, in one minute I go
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 01:19:32PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Once the battery meter warned me that I had 0 minutes left, I rebooted
> > it to the LILO prompt, stopped it there and let it drain the battery
> > until it just died and couldn't be turned back on. I think it ran for
> > nearl
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 01:05:21PM -0500, John M Flinchbaugh wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 05:51:59PM +, john gennard wrote:
> > I've just recharged the battery which took just
> > over 23 minutes to reach 'fully charged'. Then switching
> > to it, in one minute I got 'Running off batter
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 05:51:59PM +, john gennard wrote:
> Just before Christmas, I bought a secondhand T20
> Laptop and installed Sarge which works fine.
>
> The vendor said there was a battery which 'worked
> well'. Embarrassingly, I have so far always used the T20
> with the AC
john gennard wrote:
Just before Christmas, I bought a secondhand T20
Laptop and installed Sarge which works fine.
So far so good, as the man said when he fell past the
twentieth floor.
The vendor said there was a battery which 'worked
well'. Embarrassingly, I have so far always used t
On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 05:51:59PM +, john gennard wrote:
> I've just recharged the battery which took just
> over 23 minutes to reach 'fully charged'. Then switching
> to it, in one minute I got 'Running off battery 11 mins
> left' quickly followed by 'running out 0 mins left'.
>
>
> It would seem that I've been 'sold a pup', but
> before getting a new one (assuming one can be found), I
> just wondered if anything in the Debian software could be misconfigured.
> The battery itself seems in almost pristine
> condition to my inexperienced eyes.
>
No, that battery is damag
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 06:44:51PM -0700, Steven Schlansker wrote:
> Cool, apm works fine. How can I get it to go in my prompt?
Backticks. Example:
PS1='`pwd`: '
is an alternative method of getting the working directory in your
prompt.
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Laptop battery
>
>
> Cool, apm works fine. How can I
Cool, apm works fine. How can I get it to go in my prompt?
On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 11:41 PM, Joyce, Matthew wrote:
I used to use apmd, it worked pretty well, I used to cut the power
left %
out and use it in my prompt.
hub:~# apt-cache show apmd
Package: apmd
Priority: optional
Sect
Hi,
This should be possible via APM or ACPI. In the latter case make sure
you have flashed the latest BIOS and have enabled ACPI in BIOS setup. In
the first case, make sure you have enabled APM in BIOS setup.
In any case, you may have to recompile the kernel to enable ACPI and/or
APM.
MJ
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