Re: Kernel 2.4 on Etch

2007-07-10 Thread koffiejunkie
Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: Hi Is there any simple way of making kernel 2.4 and 2.6 coexist in Debian Etch? I know a lot of complicated ways :) but I need version 2.4 to test old kernel modules. I can't give you the details on how, but I know Etch runs just fine on a 2.4 kernel. I have a

Re: Kernel 2.4 on Etch

2007-07-03 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 05:24:59PM +0200, Thomas Jollans wrote: > On Tuesday 03 July 2007, Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: > >Is there any simple way of making kernel 2.4 and 2.6 coexist in Debian > > Etch? I know a lot of complicated ways :) but I need version 2.4 to test > > old kernel modules. >

Re: Kernel 2.4 on Etch

2007-07-03 Thread Thomas Jollans
Hi, On Tuesday 03 July 2007, Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: >Is there any simple way of making kernel 2.4 and 2.6 coexist in Debian > Etch? I know a lot of complicated ways :) but I need version 2.4 to test > old kernel modules. I suggest that if you want to use old kernel-level software, you us

Re: Kernel 2.4 on Etch

2007-07-03 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 10:19:35AM +0200, Pol Hallen wrote: > which procedure do u use for compiling? (debian-way or others?) > > The only thing that u can do is try! Actually, it may not be possible[0]. I think there isn't any support, and from hearing others' experience, they've run into troubl

Re: Kernel 2.4 on Etch

2007-07-03 Thread Pol Hallen
>Is there any simple way of making kernel 2.4 and 2.6 coexist in Debian > Etch? I know a lot of complicated ways :) but I need version 2.4 to test > old kernel modules. I believe that the problem might be module-init-tools which procedure do u use for compiling? (debian-way or others?) The on

Re: kernel 2.4 with debian etch?

2007-06-28 Thread Robert Cates
Ralph Katz wrote: On 06/28/2007 05:25 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote: On Thursday 28 June 2007, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Hi. Is it possible, and how?, to install the kernel 2.4 with Etch? It seems that I don't manage to install it typing `linux24' at boot from CDROM. Linux 2.4 is not pa

Re: kernel 2.4 with debian etch?

2007-06-28 Thread Ralph Katz
On 06/28/2007 05:25 PM, Thomas Jollans wrote: > On Thursday 28 June 2007, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> Hi. >> >> Is it possible, and how?, to install the kernel 2.4 with Etch? It seems >> that I don't manage to install it typing `linux24' at boot from CDROM. > > Linux 2.4 is not part of etch. In othe

Re: kernel 2.4 with debian etch?

2007-06-28 Thread Thomas Jollans
On Thursday 28 June 2007, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Hi. > > Is it possible, and how?, to install the kernel 2.4 with Etch? It seems > that I don't manage to install it typing `linux24' at boot from CDROM. Linux 2.4 is not part of etch. In other news, linux 2.4 is ancient and linux 2.6 works well ;

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2006-01-17 Thread seeker5528
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:53:44 -0400 Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At last! > Not only am I not inebriated, but I remembered where I read what I > based my missive on. :-) > > http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/man/README/README.ATAPI > > An extract from which goes as follows: >

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2006-01-16 Thread Greg
Joris Huizer wrote: Greg wrote: which device do you write to ? (there's a reason I ask, I'll elucidate when sober...^hic)};) I call cdrecord as follows: cdrecord --force dev=ATA:1,0,0 that means, the ATA:1,0,0 device hmm, as I think of that, I guess that's a scsi naming scheme; I think I

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2006-01-16 Thread Joris Huizer
Greg wrote: which device do you write to ? (there's a reason I ask, I'll elucidate when sober...^hic)};) I call cdrecord as follows: cdrecord --force dev=ATA:1,0,0 that means, the ATA:1,0,0 device hmm, as I think of that, I guess that's a scsi naming scheme; I think I read writing to /dev/

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2006-01-15 Thread Greg
Joris Huizer wrote: Greg wrote: Seeker5528 wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:17:50 -0400 > Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>Don't you think it would be more confusing to tell people that SCSI >>>emulation was built in to ide-cd. If you tell them that then they will >>>be expecting

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2006-01-15 Thread Joris Huizer
Greg wrote: Seeker5528 wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:17:50 -0400 > Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>Don't you think it would be more confusing to tell people that SCSI >>>emulation was built in to ide-cd. If you tell them that then they will >>>be expecting to have srX devices for

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2006-01-15 Thread Greg
Seeker5528 wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:17:50 -0400 > Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>>Don't you think it would be more confusing to tell people that SCSI >>>emulation was built in to ide-cd. If you tell them that then they will >>>be expecting to have srX devices for their drives >> >>1)

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2006-01-14 Thread Seeker5528
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:17:50 -0400 Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't you think it would be more confusing to tell people that SCSI > > emulation was built in to ide-cd. If you tell them that then they will > > be expecting to have srX devices for their drives > > 1) I have symlinks: > [EM

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2006-01-14 Thread Greg
Seeker5528 wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:32:17 -0400 Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My experience, FWIW, Simply put: In kernel 2.4, ide-scsi module, we got used to the scsi-emulation concept. Whereas, In kernel 2.6, we were (somewhat confusingly, IMO) told the above, i.e.: "SCSI emulation

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2006-01-13 Thread Seeker5528
On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:32:17 -0400 Greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My experience, FWIW, Simply put: > > In kernel 2.4, ide-scsi module, we got used to the scsi-emulation concept. > > Whereas, > > In kernel 2.6, we were (somewhat confusingly, IMO) told the above, i.e.: > "SCSI emulation is no

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2006-01-08 Thread Richard Lyons
On Thursday, 5 January 2006 at 16:32:17 -0400, Greg wrote: > > > > > My experience, FWIW, Simply put: > > In kernel 2.4, ide-scsi module, we got used to the scsi-emulation concept. > > Whereas, > > In kernel 2.6, we were (somewhat confusingly, IMO) told the above, i.e.: > "SCSI emulation is

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2006-01-05 Thread Greg
Richard Lyons wrote: On Friday, 30 December 2005 at 21:55:27 -0700, Jules Dubois wrote: On Friday 30 December 2005 09:24, Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: On Thursday, 29 December 2005 at 22:12:26 -0700, Jules Dubois wrote: [...] SCSI emulation is not required

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2006-01-01 Thread Richard Lyons
On Friday, 30 December 2005 at 21:55:27 -0700, Jules Dubois wrote: > On Friday 30 December 2005 09:24, Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > > On Thursday, 29 December 2005 at 22:12:26 -0700, Jules Dubois wrote: > > [...] > >> SCSI emulation is not required in v2.6.

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2005-12-31 Thread Jules Dubois
On Friday 30 December 2005 09:24, Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > On Thursday, 29 December 2005 at 22:12:26 -0700, Jules Dubois wrote: > [...] >> SCSI emulation is not required in v2.6. > > I keep reading this, but xcdroast and so on still complain every time > th

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2005-12-30 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Dec 30, 2005 at 04:24:07PM +, Richard Lyons wrote: > I keep reading this, but xcdroast and so on still complain every time > that I should use SCSI emulation even though the kernel is 2.6.x. Is > some other adjustment or setting needed instead? In the past, people on this list have s

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2005-12-30 Thread Richard Lyons
On Thursday, 29 December 2005 at 22:12:26 -0700, Jules Dubois wrote: [...] > SCSI emulation is not required in v2.6. I keep reading this, but xcdroast and so on still complain every time that I should use SCSI emulation even though the kernel is 2.6.x. Is some other adjustment or setting needed

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2005-12-29 Thread Chinook
Jules Dubois wrote: On Thursday 29 December 2005 20:56, Chinook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: For current stable kernel 2.4.27 it gives instructions on how to setup an ATAPI CD-RW/DVD+-RW recorder on Debian. Trouble is they include lilo and I'm using grub. Then below it say

Re: kernel 2.4.* vs 2.6.* and ATAPI dvd question

2005-12-29 Thread Jules Dubois
On Thursday 29 December 2005 20:56, Chinook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > For current stable kernel 2.4.27 it gives instructions on how to setup > an ATAPI CD-RW/DVD+-RW recorder on Debian. Trouble is they include lilo > and I'm using grub. Then below it says (I think) that

Re: kernel 2.4 -> 2.6 upgrading procedure

2005-09-05 Thread L.V.Gandhi
On 9/6/05, Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: David Niemi wrote:> Bob Proulx wrote:> > In the future when you install Debian it is highly recommended to> > install using the linux 2.6 kernel instead of the 2.4 kernel.  Yes, I>> Wasn't obvious when I read through the install instructions :) Yes. 

Re: kernel 2.4 -> 2.6 upgrading procedure

2005-09-05 Thread Bob Proulx
David Niemi wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > In the future when you install Debian it is highly recommended to > > install using the linux 2.6 kernel instead of the 2.4 kernel. Yes, I > > Wasn't obvious when I read through the install instructions :) Yes. Agreed. Grumble, grumble. In the future

Re: kernel 2.4 -> 2.6 upgrading procedure

2005-09-05 Thread David Niemi
On Mon, 2005-09-05 at 12:13 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > David Niemi wrote: > > Yub, another Debian noobie here. > > Welcome! > > When I installed the 2.4.27 XX kernel was installed but I'd like to > > go up to the 2.6.8-11-emt64t-p4-smp kernel as I've got a dual Xeon > > emt64 3.2Ghz system. > >

Re: kernel 2.4 -> 2.6 upgrading procedure

2005-09-05 Thread Bob Proulx
David Niemi wrote: > Yub, another Debian noobie here. Welcome! > I am also running Fedora 4 i386_64 and this is my first install of > Debian a couple days ago using a DVD from the magazine Linux Format. > When I installed the 2.4.27 XX kernel was installed but I'd like to > go up to the 2.6.8-11-

Re: Kernel 2.4

2004-11-21 Thread Cousin Stanley
| Oh, sorry. I misunderstood your question | and can't help on the 2.6 issue. Ralph No problem My question maybe could have been worded a bit better in general Are internet connection problems with common NICs that function well under kernel 2.4 but fail under 2

Re: Re: Kernel 2.4

2004-11-21 Thread Ralph Katz
Oh, sorry. I misunderstood your question and can't help on the 2.6 issue. Still, starting a new thread with a more specific subject may get you better responses. All the logs are in /var/log, so looking there for your 2.6 sessions' problems may be instructive. Good luck! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Kernel 2.4

2004-11-20 Thread Cousin Stanley
| You could say more about your connectivity problem | in a new thread for this subject. Ralph Thanks for the reply I hadn't intended to try and diagnose specific problems at this time, since I'm using 2.4.27 and only contemplating moving on up to 2.6 and wondering about connectio

Re: Re: Kernel 2.4

2004-11-20 Thread Ralph Katz
On 11/20/2004 08:00 AM, Cousin Stanley wrote: [...] > Although many reasons for upgrading 2.4 to 2.6 > seem compelling to me, internet connectivity problems > on the 5.5 year-old machine I use with 2.6 kernels > and an early version of Mandrake 10 and also > with the Knoppix 3.4 CD and HD

Re: Kernel 2.4

2004-11-20 Thread Cousin Stanley
| | Andreas Thanks for posting the above link entailing Linux kernel 2.6 advantages, changes, problems, etc. I'm relatively new to Linux, only 3.5 months with Debian Sarge using kernel 2.4.27, have been curious about

Re: Kernel 2.4

2004-11-19 Thread Michael Spang
Andreas Janssen wrote: Almost all other mainstream distibutions (Mandrake, Slackware, Fedora, SuSE) install 2.6 by default. Knoppix comes with kernel 2.6 (although you may have to activate it using a boot option). Debian Sarge comes with kernel 2.6 (although I think right now the default installati

Re: Kernel 2.4

2004-11-19 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Joao Clemente (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I would ask the same question Michael did, but the other way around: > Why should I update to 2.6 when I'm perfectly happy with my 2.4 > kernel? My hardware is completely supported at this moment, so what > features (non-hardware-support-related)

Re: Kernel 2.4

2004-11-19 Thread Joao Clemente
Andreas Janssen wrote: Hello Michael Spang (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: Although this questionis not specific to Debian, it is relevant and I figure someone here has the answer. Why is the Linux community so opposed to moving to Kernel 2.6? Is 2.4 really that much more stable? Familiar? Upgrading

Re: Kernel 2.4

2004-11-19 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Michael Spang (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > Although this questionis not specific to Debian, it is relevant and I > figure someone here has the answer. Why is the Linux community so > opposed to moving to Kernel 2.6? Is 2.4 really that much more stable? > Familiar? Upgrading to much troubl

Re: Kernel 2.4 and iocharset/codepage conversion crash

2004-04-13 Thread Virgo Pärna
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 15:57:34 + (UTC), Virgo Pärna wrote: > I'm using Woody with 2.4.18-1-686 kernel. When I mount smb share > from another computer with icocharset and codepage parameters and then > run zip on this share, it will crash with Segmentation fault (specific From ChangeLog

Re: Kernel 2.4 and ASRock

2004-02-26 Thread Werner Mahr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2004 22:28 schrieb Steve: > BUT - I'm getting the same "Lost Interrupt" problems with the CD. > > After much searching, I believe this may be a BIOS problem (I have an > ASRock K7S8X MB) - and that it is fixed with the 2.6 B

Re: kernel 2.4 and executable permission for mounted fs

2003-10-31 Thread Andreas Goesele
Andreas Goesele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > as it is well known the 2.4 kernel series mixed up the permissions set > at mounting for instance vfat and iso9660 partitions: As default all > files are marked as executable, creating a problem if you copy them to > ext2. One can't change tha

Re: Kernel 2.4 broken on K7

2003-02-09 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 06:37:14PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:44:39PM -0500, Scott Nanni wrote: > > I went back in and added bus mouse support and everything else I could > > think of, that didnt work, and thats about when I discovered the hdc issue > > so I went back in ag

Re: Kernel 2.4 broken on K7

2003-02-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:44:39PM -0500, Scott Nanni wrote: > First for those of you who originally replied to my first message > thanks for the help. > > I am now running a custom 2.4.20 kernel from kernel.org source > with the latest ACPI patch from sourceforge, and the presario sound > patch f

Re: Kernel 2.4 broken on K7

2003-02-08 Thread David Macbanay
Try the touchpad driver from http://www.mobilix.org/software/synaptics/ and use the kernel parameter hdc=ide-scsi and make sure you have SCSI emulation support, SCSI CD-ROM support and SCSI generic support installed in the kernel configuration. David On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 20:44, Scott Nanni wrot

Re: Kernel 2.4 problems on K7

2003-02-07 Thread Calber Chainy
Hello Scott, I have one of the first K7 with also an ALI chipset. The messages at startup that you get are the same I got when tried to enable DMA. I suggest you disable the activation of the DMA settings at startup and try to find your best configuration later with hdparm and activate it with t

Re: kernel 2.4.x

2002-03-13 Thread Pietro Cagnoni
> I used to download Bunk's stuff to get kernel 2.4.x. bunk's packages are still available: deb http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/debian potato main > Now where can I find the deb packages with, for instance, kernel > 2.4.18 (is out isn't it?)? i usually download them using the forms at http://www.deb

Re: kernel 2.4 on dell latitude

2002-03-04 Thread dman
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 11:39:23AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: | i have this dell latitude C610, which runs perfectly fine with | debian's stock kernel 2.2.20. however, i need some features from 2.4.x | and thus went ahead to install kernel-image-2.4.17-686, which also | boots just fine, but wh

Re: kernel 2.4 - OK !!

2002-02-21 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Samuel J MacDowell wrote: > > The 2.95.4 is the gcc in Debian unstable that is a snapshot of the 2.95 > > branch in the gcc CVS. There's no officially released 2.95.4. > Please would you mind be more specific about the URL :)) > I´ve been drifting around ftp.debian.org

Re: Kernel 2.4, 8 megs of ram and kernel panic

2002-02-17 Thread dman
On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 10:12:48PM -0600, Adam Majer wrote: | On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 11:14:36PM +0100, Gr?gory Kar?kinian wrote: | > Hello, | > | > Thank you guys, that's exactly the answer i needed :). I can't compile a | > kernel on this machine (it's a 486 @ 66 mhz.. Slow even to untar :p). |

Re: Kernel 2.4, 8 megs of ram and kernel panic

2002-02-16 Thread Adam Majer
On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 11:14:36PM +0100, Gr?gory Kar?kinian wrote: > Hello, > > Thank you guys, that's exactly the answer i needed :). I can't compile a > kernel on this machine (it's a 486 @ 66 mhz.. Slow even to untar :p). > I'll keep my 2.2 for now. You _can_ build it - it takes about 2-4h de

Re: Kernel 2.4, 8 megs of ram and kernel panic

2002-02-16 Thread Wayne Topa
Grégory Karékinian([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Hi, > > I've been searching on google but found no way to boot a 2.4 kernel > without initrd. I indeed don't have any scsi hdd, so i don't think i > need it. What? I have been booting 2.4.x kernels for months now, without initrd, o

RE: Kernel 2.4, 8 megs of ram and kernel panic

2002-02-16 Thread Grégory Karékinian
Sent: samedi 16 février 2002 22:03 > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4, 8 megs of ram and kernel panic > > [...] > works just as with 2.2 or 2.0. configure the kernel without initrd > support, compile it with make-kpkg, install it with dpkg, r

Re: kernel 2.4 - OK !!

2002-02-16 Thread Samuel J MacDowell
> > The 2.95.4 is the gcc in Debian unstable that is a snapshot of the 2.95 > branch in the gcc CVS. There's no officially released 2.95.4. Please would you mind be more specific about the URL :)) I´ve been drifting around ftp.debian.org and couldn´t find it :( > > smd > []s smd

Re: Kernel 2.4, 8 megs of ram and kernel panic

2002-02-16 Thread Martin Wuertele
Hi Grégory! On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Grégory Karékinian wrote: > I've been searching on google but found no way to boot a 2.4 kernel > without initrd. I indeed don't have any scsi hdd, so i don't think i > need it. works just as with 2.2 or 2.0. configure the kernel without initrd support, compile

Re: Kernel 2.4, 8 megs of ram and kernel panic

2002-02-16 Thread dman
On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 09:23:30PM +0100, Grégory Karékinian wrote: | Hi, | | I've been searching on google but found no way to boot a 2.4 kernel | without initrd. This is a snippet of the kernel configuration documentation : ~ Initial RAM disk (initrd) support CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD The in

RE: Kernel 2.4, 8 megs of ram and kernel panic

2002-02-16 Thread Grégory Karékinian
Sent: samedi 16 février 2002 21:13 > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4, 8 megs of ram and kernel panic > > [...] > > Do you really need to boot through initrd? A customized 2.4 > kernel that > does not depend on initrd, should have no problems a

Re: Kernel 2.4, 8 megs of ram and kernel panic

2002-02-16 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 07:40:53PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: > Gr?gory Kar?kinian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I understand the reason of this error (only 8 megs of ram on this > > computer, but is is possible to boot a 2.4 kernel with 8 megs ? > > (Making a smaller ramdisk ? Been searching on

Re: Kernel 2.4, 8 megs of ram and kernel panic

2002-02-16 Thread Herbert Xu
Gr?gory Kar?kinian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand the reason of this error (only 8 megs of ram on this > computer, but is is possible to boot a 2.4 kernel with 8 megs ? > (Making a smaller ramdisk ? Been searching on google, found out it's 4 > megs by defaut... That's a lot). Yes, but

Re: Kernel 2.4:After Bunk....

2002-02-13 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 06:14:04PM +, Vittorio wrote: > I was used to upgrade my 2.4 kernel from Bunk's stuff. > > Now that Bunk is no longer a Debian developer I wonder who's going > to take over and guarantee the upcoming versions of kernel 2.4? Adrian has new site working: http://www.f

Re: Kernel 2.4:After Bunk....

2002-02-13 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 06:14:04PM +, Vittorio wrote: > > Now that Bunk is no longer a Debian developer I wonder who's going > to take over and guarantee the upcoming versions of kernel 2.4? > I don't think anybody is going to offer a similar collection of packages. IMHO, this is a good thi

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 01:29:36AM -0400, Jason Boxman wrote: > I have a 486 firewall myself. My connectivity on other machines more or less > stops when I do things like run dpkg or the gShield firewall script > (iptables) loads on it. Is this normal, or is it just my particular 486 33? dpkg

Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes

2001-09-09 Thread dman
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 02:09:10AM -0700, der.hans wrote: | Am 08. Sep, 2001 schw?zte Rajesh Fowkar so: | | > What is this initrd ? Why it is required when kernel boots without it ? | | It's required for the kernel-image-2.4.x packages because they're being | built with initrds. Actually, it's be

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable

2001-09-09 Thread Ross Burton
On Sat, 2001-09-08 at 15:59, dman wrote: > Add 'devfs=mount' to your kernel command line and try again. Use the > old-dev name for the root= argument though. I'm getting there... devfsd starts and hangs on "Creating extra device nodes...". Looking at the script: for i in `sed -e '/^#/d' $DEVFI

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-09 Thread dman
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 12:46:36AM -0400, Brian Nelson wrote: | Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > Brian Nelson wrote: [...] | > I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over "make bzImage" and | > manually installing the kernel image. Just to be different : | 1. You won't forg

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-09 Thread dman
On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 01:29:36AM -0400, Jason Boxman wrote: | On Sunday 09 September 2001 01:07 am, Nathan E Norman wrote: | > On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:42:34PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: | > > Nathan E Norman wrote: | | > | > I maintain (more or less) four boxes ... a celeron (my home machine

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable

2001-09-09 Thread Ross Burton
On Sat, 2001-09-08 at 15:59, dman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 10:05:33AM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: > | Yes, it's me again. > | > | Once this is sorted I'll stop bugging you, I promise! > | > | Does the kernel-image for 2.4.x from unstable come with devfsd on? I >

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-09 Thread der.hans
Am 08. Sep, 2001 schwäzte Craig Dickson so: > I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over "make bzImage" and > manually installing the kernel image. I've adminned many boxen with almost the same configuration. Also, my firewall has no developer tools. kpkg actually doesn't help me much t

Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes

2001-09-09 Thread der.hans
Am 08. Sep, 2001 schwäzte Rajesh Fowkar so: > What is this initrd ? Why it is required when kernel boots without it ? It's required for the kernel-image-2.4.x packages because they're being built with initrds. Actually, it's because the module for the filesystems are in the initrds and not built

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-09 Thread Craig Dickson
Brian Nelson wrote: > Yeah, those mysterious Debian developers do strange things to the > source. Whatever could it be? Now you're just being snide, which doesn't exactly contribute to the civility factor of the discussion. Fortunately, I have better sense than to respond in kind. The point is,

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-09 Thread Craig Dickson
Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:42:34PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: > > Nathan E Norman wrote: > > > > > Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer > > > kernel-package :) > > > > You mean, once I manage more than one machine that will run exactly

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-09 Thread Jason Boxman
On Sunday 09 September 2001 01:07 am, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:42:34PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: > > Nathan E Norman wrote: > > I maintain (more or less) four boxes ... a celeron (my home machine), > an athlon (my work desktop), a 486 (my firewall), and a p90 (a server

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-09 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 09:42:34PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: > Nathan E Norman wrote: > > > Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer > > kernel-package :) > > You mean, once I manage more than one machine that will run exactly the > same kernel. Right now, I have t

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread Brian Nelson
Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brian Nelson wrote: > > > Why not just download the kernel-source package? Similar to the > > vanilla ones, but usually with a few patches applied. > > That's exactly why not. I'd rather have a vanilla Linus kernel source > tree to which I can apply p

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread Craig Dickson
Nathan E Norman wrote: > Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer > kernel-package :) You mean, once I manage more than one machine that will run exactly the same kernel. Right now, I have two Debian boxes, but one is a P3 running Sid (kernel 2.4.9) and the other is

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 01:55:41PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: > I have not found any reason to prefer make-kpkg over "make bzImage" and Once you manage more than one machine, you will find reasons to prefer kernel-package :) -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Microm

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread Jason Boxman
On Saturday 08 September 2001 04:55 pm, Craig Dickson wrote: > Brian Nelson wrote: > > > The package > > installs the bzip2'ed source in /usr/src. Just tar -jxf it, configure > > with 'make menuconfig' or whatever, and then build a custom > > kernel-image package with 'make-kpkg kernel_image'. >

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread Gary L. Dolan
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 01:55:41PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote: > Brian Nelson wrote: > > > Why not just download the kernel-source package? Similar to the > > vanilla ones, but usually with a few patches applied. > > That's exactly why not. I'd rather have a vanilla Linus kernel source > tree to

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread Craig Dickson
Brian Nelson wrote: > Why not just download the kernel-source package? Similar to the > vanilla ones, but usually with a few patches applied. That's exactly why not. I'd rather have a vanilla Linus kernel source tree to which I can apply patches without worrying about whether they'll conflict wi

Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes

2001-09-08 Thread der.hans
Am 08. Sep, 2001 schwäzte dman so: > If you compile your kernel without initrd support then you don't need > an initrd. The stock kernels need the initrd AFAIK. (Well, I didn't > get it to work without it) We keep saying stock kernels. It should be pointed out that we mean the kernel-image* pac

Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes

2001-09-08 Thread dman
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 10:53:19PM +, Rajesh Fowkar wrote: | Matt Jones saw fit to inform me that: | >>>| Could you please explain straightforwardly, step by step how you | >>>| compiled your kernel? | > | >Make sure you enable initrd when you are doing the xconfig. It is not | >something tha

Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes

2001-09-08 Thread Rajesh Fowkar
Matt Jones saw fit to inform me that: >>>| Could you please explain straightforwardly, step by step how you >>>| compiled your kernel? > >Make sure you enable initrd when you are doing the xconfig. It is not >something that stands out greatly and I missed it a few times. After >enabling the init

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread Brian Nelson
John Toon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday 08 September 2001 10:05 am, Ross Burton wrote: > > Personally I would always recommend downloading yourself a vanilla 2.4.x > kernel tarball from http://www.kernel.org. With kernels, this is one of the > few areas where I think it is better to

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable

2001-09-08 Thread dman
On Sat, Sep 08, 2001 at 10:05:33AM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: | Yes, it's me again. | | Once this is sorted I'll stop bugging you, I promise! | | Does the kernel-image for 2.4.x from unstable come with devfsd on? I ^ devfsd and devfs

Re: kernel 2.4.x and unstable/ Kernels

2001-09-08 Thread John Toon
On Saturday 08 September 2001 10:05 am, Ross Burton wrote: > Yes, it's me again. > > Once this is sorted I'll stop bugging you, I promise! > > Does the kernel-image for 2.4.x from unstable come with devfsd on? I > tried mounting a zip disk (external ppa) and the device was > /dev/scsi/0/... not /

Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes

2001-09-07 Thread Matt Jones
From: dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user CC: Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 13:44:32 -0400 On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 05:40:01PM +, Vittorio wrote: | Ross Burton [debian-user] <06/09/01 21:45 +0100>: | > Hi, |

Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes

2001-09-07 Thread dman
On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 05:40:01PM +, Vittorio wrote: | Ross Burton [debian-user] <06/09/01 21:45 +0100>: | > Hi, | > | > After noticing (thanks!) that kernel 2.4.x uses an initrd image I | > managed to make it boot my Sid systems. | > | I wonder if you can help me. | | In a previous post of

Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes

2001-09-07 Thread Vittorio
Ross Burton [debian-user] <06/09/01 21:45 +0100>: > Hi, > > After noticing (thanks!) that kernel 2.4.x uses an initrd image I > managed to make it boot my Sid systems. > I wonder if you can help me. In a previous post of mine I've detailed the problems I met in compiling kernel 2.4.9 but none t

Re: Kernel 2.4.x woes

2001-09-06 Thread dman
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 09:45:37PM +0100, Ross Burton wrote: | Hi, | | After noticing (thanks!) that kernel 2.4.x uses an initrd image I | managed to make it boot my Sid systems. | | 1. Why does it wait for 5 seconds? ("wait 5 seconds or press enter for a | shell")? No idea, but I'd like it if m

Re: kernel 2.4.x

2001-08-29 Thread Akintayo Holder
I know. It is a personal workstation, and I am will fix the problem soon -- Profanity is the one language all programmers know best. Unknown

Re: kernel 2.4.x (what compiler?)

2001-08-28 Thread dman
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 01:51:20PM -0600, Rick Macdonald wrote: | | Something that seems odd: | | Documentation/Changes says to use gcc-2.91.66 but this old version isn't | available as a Debian package! Use 2.95. You shouldn't have any problems. -D

Re: kernel 2.4.x (what compiler?)

2001-08-28 Thread Rick Macdonald
Something that seems odd: Documentation/Changes says to use gcc-2.91.66 but this old version isn't available as a Debian package! Quote: Kernel compilation == GCC --- The gcc version requirements may vary depending on the type of CPU in your computer.

Re: kernel 2.4.x

2001-08-28 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Akintayo Holder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Oren Gozlan wrote: > >> any info about kernel 2.4.x ? >> any one have tried it ? >> >> THNX >> >Yes, I tried it with testing and it messed up my modem config, it also does >not > >allow my local filesystems to unmount

Re: kernel 2.4.x

2001-08-27 Thread Jim McCloskey
Daniel Kleine-Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> i'm using it in conjunction with testing without _ANY_ problems Also here. I've used 2.4.5, 2.4.7, 2.4.8, and 2.4.9 without problem on a mostly testing system. The only issue (as was pointed out to me here) is that 2.4.9 is really designed to w

Re: kernel 2.4.x

2001-08-26 Thread Wayne Topa
Subject: kernel 2.4.x Date: Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 04:51:17PM -0400 In reply to:Oren Gozlan Quoting Oren Gozlan([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > any info about kernel 2.4.x ? > any one have tried it ? Running 2.4.9 on 3 Potato boxes and 1 Woody box. No parobems. If you try a google search

Re: kernel 2.4.x

2001-08-26 Thread David Nusinow
On Sunday 26 August 2001 01:51 pm, Oren Gozlan wrote: > any info about kernel 2.4.x ? > any one have tried it ? > Running 2.4.8 custom on sid right now. The stock kernel didn't work for me, but the custom does. Works fine so far. I've been using the 2.4 series for a while now and I haven't reall

Re: kernel 2.4.x

2001-08-26 Thread Timeboy
On 26 Aug 2001 16:51:17 -0400, Oren Gozlan wrote: > ** any info about kernel 2.4.x ? > ** any one have tried it ? I use kernel 2.4.x since 3 or 4 month, without any problems on potato. There are some packeges to update, i taked from woody, to get a running kernel 2.4.x. Modutils and ppp are nece

Re: kernel 2.4.x

2001-08-26 Thread Rajesh Fowkar
Oren Gozlan saw fit to inform me that: >any info about kernel 2.4.x ? >any one have tried it ? Yes. I am at present on kernel 2.4.9 :-) What u want to know ? ( I am working on this kernel at home ). Warm Regards -- Ra

Re: kernel 2.4.x

2001-08-26 Thread dman
On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 04:51:17PM -0400, Oren Gozlan wrote: | any info about kernel 2.4.x ? | any one have tried it ? I've got 2.4.8 on a testing system. It is the "stock" kernel that was in sid a few weeks ago. It works great for me. devfs and USB is cool too. -D

Re: kernel 2.4.x

2001-08-26 Thread Daniel Kleine-Albers
On Sunday 26 August 2001 22:51, Oren Gozlan spoke wisely: > any info about kernel 2.4.x ? > any one have tried it ? > > THNX i'm using it in conjunction with testing without _ANY_ problems -- Daniel Kleine-Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: kernel 2.4.x

2001-08-26 Thread Bob Koss
> > > any info about kernel 2.4.x ? > any one have tried it ? Yeah, it made my OnStream tape backup unusable. Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming

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