Andrei Popescu wrote:
>
> Of course they are, in direct proportion to the money you are paying to
> use their work ;-)
>
no reason for being sarcastic. I'm experienced user and I can make rational
decisions after getharing information, but there are so many people who use
what they get.
It's a
On Sb, 23 oct 10, 18:53:52, deloptes wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
>
> > Considering that the life expectancy of squeeze is ~3 years IMHO it
> > would have been wrong to stay with 3.5. Having both would be ideal, but
> > the KDE team lacks manpower.
>
> which kde team - the kde - kde team or the
Andrei Popescu wrote:
>
> Considering that the life expectancy of squeeze is ~3 years IMHO it
> would have been wrong to stay with 3.5. Having both would be ideal, but
> the KDE team lacks manpower.
which kde team - the kde - kde team or the debian kde team. Nevertheless the
people who pushed kd
On Jo, 14 oct 10, 18:22:15, deloptes wrote:
> So after I found out that it is a crap without even installing it I started
> waiting and following few threads in few groups. As with kde 3 I thought
> kde 4 will become pretty usable in it's 5th "incarnation", but still it is
> not, so basically I do
Sam Leon wrote:
> On 10/11/2010 09:37 PM, Dmitryi wrote:
>> KDE 4 is a nightmare. How can KDE 3.5.x be installed on Debian testing?
>> Is there a package repository somewhere?
>>
>>
>
> What exactly is your problem? After spending about 2 hours with kde4 I
> had it working very similar to 3.5. Tr
In , Arthur
Machlas wrote:
>3. Given Red Hats deep involvement in gnome, I'd put my money on Gnome
>being "safer" than kde and xfce.\
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In <20101014013309.ga25...@khazad-dum.debian.net>, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
wrote:
>On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, Celejar wrote:
>> Interesting, thanks. The look I don't really care about, and switching
>> users isn't relevant for me, since I'm the only user of the system.
>> The xscreensaver author ha
> There is something to be said about stuff that puts functionality over form.
> XFCE is likely to be more stable and safer than anything KDE or Gnome.
1. The two are not mutually exclusive. A!!Y being a good example,
which gnome wins hands down over XFCE.
2. The biggest threat to a system, IMHO,
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:33:09 -0300
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, Celejar wrote:
> > Interesting, thanks. The look I don't really care about, and switching
> > users isn't relevant for me, since I'm the only user of the system.
> > The xscreensaver author has a low opi
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, Celejar wrote:
> Interesting, thanks. The look I don't really care about, and switching
> users isn't relevant for me, since I'm the only user of the system.
> The xscreensaver author has a low opinion of gnome-screensaver:
>
> http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html#gnome-s
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:57:43 -0500
Arthur Machlas wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Celejar wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:18:12 -0500
> > Arthur Machlas wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> >> The difference between xfce and gnome, for me is negligible, and
> >> losing a decent screensaver, gdm
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Celejar wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:18:12 -0500
> Arthur Machlas wrote:
>
> ...
>
>> The difference between xfce and gnome, for me is negligible, and
>> losing a decent screensaver, gdm and powermanager not worth it. Once
>
> Never really used Gnome or its scr
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:18:12 -0500
Arthur Machlas wrote:
...
> The difference between xfce and gnome, for me is negligible, and
> losing a decent screensaver, gdm and powermanager not worth it. Once
Never really used Gnome or its screensaver - what does it do that
Xscreensaver doesn't? And wha
On Wednesday 13 October 2010 17:34:13 Camaleón wrote:
> so some users (I think Dotan was one of them) tried to
> animate people to help to solve the problems they were experiencing
> instead of just ranting.
Yes, that is correct and is useful, provided that it is kept in moderation.
And it is
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:43:19 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 October 2010 12:39:59 Camaleón wrote:
>> I don't think Dotan is that type of guy. I know him (well, I know his
>> posts) from openSUSE mailing list and thanks to him (besides other
>> users) and his bugzilla reports, KDE 4 is now co
On Wednesday 13 October 2010 12:39:59 Camaleón wrote:
> I don't think Dotan is that type of guy. I know him (well, I know his
> posts) from openSUSE mailing list and thanks to him (besides other users)
> and his bugzilla reports, KDE 4 is now completely usable :-)
Which he was obsessive about. An
On Wednesday 13 October 2010 12:39:59 Camaleón wrote:
> That is because you are looking at KDE 4.5 with different eyes. It's not
> KDE 4, it's you!. Just let it be the same way KDE 3.5 looked and the
> magic will be done.
It is the functionality that I don't like. What it looks like is a
side-is
On Wed October 13 2010, Arthur Machlas wrote:
> >> low_resource (enable)
> >> workarounds (disable)
> >> animation (disable all that come up)
> >
> > when I found those, the value on all said .
> > it didn't find any low_resource, and it found 2 workarounds:
> > /schema/apps/metacity/general/disab
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> On Wed October 13 2010, Arthur Machlas wrote:
>> For those wanting to "lighten up" the gnome desktop, alt+f2,
>> gconf-editor, ctrl+f the following:
>>
>> low_resource (enable)
>> workarounds (disable)
>> animation (disable all that come up
On Wed October 13 2010, Arthur Machlas wrote:
> For those wanting to "lighten up" the gnome desktop, alt+f2,
> gconf-editor, ctrl+f the following:
>
> low_resource (enable)
> workarounds (disable)
> animation (disable all that come up)
when I found those, the value on all said .
it didn't find an
For those wanting to "lighten up" the gnome desktop, alt+f2,
gconf-editor, ctrl+f the following:
low_resource (enable)
workarounds (disable)
animation (disable all that come up)
The difference between xfce and gnome, for me is negligible, and
losing a decent screensaver, gdm and powermanager not
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:59:47 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 October 2010 23:39:06 Camaleón wrote:
(...)
>> But just in case, give it a chance to KDE 4.5 (play with it in a
>> virtual machine and start it from time to time) and also, test another
>> desktops. Experience tells me that sticking
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 19:11 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 15:39, Camaleón wrote:
> >
> > use plain desktop, disable akonadi, strigi and that stuff, forget
> > activities, return to the standard icons on the desktop..
>
> Out of all the awesome things in KDE4 why would disa
Lisi schreef:
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 22:47:45 Camaleón wrote:
In fact, KDE 4.5 can be (almost 100%) configured to play the same KDE 3.5
did. It takes some time to get the same look&feel, but you can leave a
quite similar desktop.
"quite similar", "almost 100%", "configured to _pla
Dne, 13. 10. 2010 12:02:02 je Paul Cartwright napisal(a):
have you tried xfce ?? I like it as much as gnome.. and I also
switched from
KDE... xfce is also powerful, but a little lighter weight.
Thanx for the suggestion. I'll give it a try on a spare box, or a
virtual machine when I find
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 23:39:06 Camaleón wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:20:39 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > On Tuesday 12 October 2010 22:47:45 Camaleón wrote:
> >> In fact, KDE 4.5 can be (almost 100%) configured to play the same KDE
> >> 3.5 did. It takes some time to get the same look&feel, but yo
Dne, 13. 10. 2010 10:51:24 je godo napisal(a):
Are you satisfied with Gnome?
Very much so. It does an excellent job at getting out of my way, which
is what I expect from a DE 99% of the time.
Is he lighter (CPU, RAM) than KDE4?
Not noticeably, no. But I don't have to spend a minute of m
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:08:36 +0200, godo wrote:
>> But if you still love KDE, just give KDE 4.5 a chance. Spend 15 minutes
>> in setting up the way you liked (meaning: remove all the fancy effects,
>> use plain desktop, disable akonadi, strigi and that stuff, forget
>> activities, return to the st
But if you still love KDE, just give KDE 4.5 a chance. Spend 15 minutes
in setting up the way you liked (meaning: remove all the fancy effects,
use plain desktop, disable akonadi, strigi and that stuff, forget
activities, return to the standard icons on the desktop...) and you're
done. You'll ge
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:51:24 +0200, godo wrote:
>> Another option is switching to other desktop, like GNOME. That was the
>> path I took.
>>
>>
> Are you satisfied with Gnome?
Yes, I am.
> Is he lighter (CPU, RAM) than KDE4? Asking
> because I think switch to something and still didn’t decide.
Another option is switching to other desktop, like GNOME. That was the
path I took.
Greetings,
Are you satisfied with Gnome? Is he lighter (CPU, RAM) than KDE4?
Asking because I think switch to something and still didn’t decide.
Fluxbox is favorite for now.
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In <201010130052.36788.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net>, Mike Bird wrote:
>On Tue October 12 2010 22:46:14 Kelly Clowers wrote:
>> Akonadi and Strigi and similar technologies are critical to taking the
>> desktop to the next level of efficiency and effectiveness. Admittedly,
>> that's still in the early st
On Tue October 12 2010 22:46:14 Kelly Clowers wrote:
> Akonadi and Strigi and similar technologies are critical to taking the
> desktop to the next level of efficiency and effectiveness. Admittedly,
> that's still in the early stages, but it is clearly where we need to go.
People are working fine
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:11:29 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 15:39, Camaleón wrote:
>>
>> use plain desktop, disable akonadi, strigi and that stuff, forget
>> activities, return to the standard icons on the desktop..
>
> Out of all the awesome things in KDE4 why would disab
Dne, 12. 10. 2010 23:47:45 je Camaleón napisal(a):
Another option is switching to other desktop, like GNOME. That was the
path I took.
Yep, me too. Like Lisi, I needed a desktop environment to get work
done, not to s/look/curse/g at.
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On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 19:38, Mike Bird wrote:
> On Tue October 12 2010 19:11:29 Kelly Clowers wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 15:39, Camaleón wrote:
>> > use plain desktop, disable akonadi, strigi and that stuff, forget
>> > activities, return to the standard icons on the desktop..
>>
>> Out
On Tue October 12 2010 07:38:31 pm Mike Bird wrote:
> On Tue October 12 2010 19:11:29 Kelly Clowers wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 15:39, Camaleón wrote:
> > > use plain desktop, disable akonadi, strigi and that stuff, forget
> > > activities, return to the standard icons on the desktop..
> >
On Tue October 12 2010 19:11:29 Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 15:39, Camaleón wrote:
> > use plain desktop, disable akonadi, strigi and that stuff, forget
> > activities, return to the standard icons on the desktop..
>
> Out of all the awesome things in KDE4 why would disable some
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 15:39, Camaleón wrote:
>
> use plain desktop, disable akonadi, strigi and that stuff, forget
> activities, return to the standard icons on the desktop..
Out of all the awesome things in KDE4 why would disable some of the
very best?
Cheers,
Kelly Clowers
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On 10/11/2010 09:37 PM, Dmitryi wrote:
KDE 4 is a nightmare. How can KDE 3.5.x be installed on Debian testing?
Is there a package repository somewhere?
What exactly is your problem? After spending about 2 hours with kde4 I
had it working very similar to 3.5. True, it did take 2 hours but now
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:20:39 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 October 2010 22:47:45 Camaleón wrote:
>> In fact, KDE 4.5 can be (almost 100%) configured to play the same KDE
>> 3.5 did. It takes some time to get the same look&feel, but you can
>> leave a quite similar desktop.
>
> "quite similar
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 22:47:45 Camaleón wrote:
> In fact, KDE 4.5 can be (almost 100%) configured to play the same KDE 3.5
> did. It takes some time to get the same look&feel, but you can leave a
> quite similar desktop.
"quite similar", "almost 100%", "configured to _play_ the same". Ouch.
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:01:15 +0200, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> Op 12-10-10 22:52, Liam O'Toole schreef:
>> On 2010-10-12, Dmitryi wrote: --- SNIP ---
>>> KDE used to be a real lifesaver, especially with the Guidance admin
>>> modules. Now there're animations and fades and screens and whatnot
>>> ge
Op 12-10-10 22:52, Liam O'Toole schreef:
> On 2010-10-12, Dmitryi wrote:
> --- SNIP ---
>> KDE used to be a real lifesaver, especially with the Guidance admin
>> modules. Now there're animations and fades and screens and whatnot
>> getting in the way.
>
> Can't you disable all those effects?
Yes
On 2010-10-12, Dmitryi wrote:
--- SNIP ---
> KDE used to be a real lifesaver, especially with the Guidance admin
> modules. Now there're animations and fades and screens and whatnot
> getting in the way.
Can't you disable all those effects?
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Hey thanks. That's just it. The KDE team should just make a straight,
simple UI with the start menu opening immediately and without any
retarded (literally - there's a time delay) delayed menus. UI has to
fly at the speed of thought, and not make itself noticeable in any way
or get itself in the wa
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 09:49 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Tuesday 12 October 2010 09:15:33 Mihira Fernando wrote:
> > On 10/12/2010 01:43 PM, Lisi wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 12 October 2010 04:20:44 Mihira Fernando wrote:
> > >> The Trinity project has 3.5 repos for Ubuntu :
> > >> http://apt.pearsoncompu
On 10/12/2010 02:19 PM, Lisi wrote:
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 09:15:33 Mihira Fernando wrote:
On 10/12/2010 01:43 PM, Lisi wrote:
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 04:20:44 Mihira Fernando wrote:
The Trinity project has 3.5 repos for Ubuntu :
http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/install.html
Also fo
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 09:15:33 Mihira Fernando wrote:
> On 10/12/2010 01:43 PM, Lisi wrote:
> > On Tuesday 12 October 2010 04:20:44 Mihira Fernando wrote:
> >> The Trinity project has 3.5 repos for Ubuntu :
> >> http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/install.html
> >
> > Also for Debian.
> >
> > Li
On 10/12/2010 01:43 PM, Lisi wrote:
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 04:20:44 Mihira Fernando wrote:
The Trinity project has 3.5 repos for Ubuntu :
http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/install.html
Also for Debian.
Lisi
They have repos for Squeeze as well ? thought the repo was for Lenny...
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On Tuesday 12 October 2010 04:20:44 Mihira Fernando wrote:
> The Trinity project has 3.5 repos for Ubuntu :
> http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/install.html
Also for Debian.
Lisi
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Try trinity, It has debian stable/testing repositories, and works quite
well, i tested it on lenny installation and worked flawlesely.
Project is doing surprisingly fine though there aren't too much
contributors.
Regards
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On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Greg Madden wrote:
>
On Monday 11 October 2010 18:37:24 Dmitryi wrote:
> KDE 4 is a nightmare. How can KDE 3.5.x be installed on Debian testing?
> Is there a package repository somewhere?
I am using these on 64 bit Squeeze.
http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/
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On 10/12/2010 08:07 AM, Dmitryi wrote:
KDE 4 is a nightmare. How can KDE 3.5.x be installed on Debian testing?
Is there a package repository somewhere?
Lenny has KDE 3.5 in the repos.
The Trinity project has 3.5 repos for Ubuntu :
http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/install.html
you can use one
On Friday 24 June 2005 15:28, Gallagher Timothy-TIMOTHYG wrote:
> I have just installed a new Debian Sarge box and got KDE up and working
> from apt-get. The users of this box do not know Linux that well and have
> to make hardware and other system changes from KDE GUI. I cannot find the
> packag
Hello!
> Has anyone managed to get programs added to their panel
> sucessfully (with their specified icons)? If so, please share,
> and I'll pass it along to the other two unfortunate souls and the
> KDE list.
I've had some strange problem: The Menu Editor creates the KDELNK files in
/root/.kde/
Mark Wagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I figured out a way to get it to work, but it's kind of a PITA. I
> have to log in as root, fire up KDE, then use the menu editor to
> assign icons for each application that isn't a KDE app, or just
> doesn't have an icon associated with it.
>
Mark,
I'm
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on Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Mark Wagnon wrote:
> I've decided to play around with KDE a little, but I've run into
> a problem. In adding programs to the panel, the icon I select is
> ignored and replaced with the plain ol KDE cog.
>
> I'm running potato, BTW.
>
> A sear
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How did you install KDE? I grabed the sources from a mirror of ftp.kde.org
> and compiled them myself, and I can add icons to my panel without problems.
> I am using slink, though.
I installed from debs I picked up from http://kde.tdyc.com.
I figured out a way to get i
Mark Wagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Has anyone managed to get programs added to their panel
> sucessfully (with their specified icons)? If so, please share,
> and I'll pass it along to the other two unfortunate souls and the
> KDE list.
How did you install KDE? I grabed the sources from a m
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