On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 08:29:40AM +, Curt wrote:
> On 2016-03-24, David Christensen wrote:
> > On 03/23/2016 07:46 PM, John Hasler wrote:
> >> David Christensen writes:
> >>> If I am running version N, have changed the configuration file to M',
> >>> and then upgrade to version N+1, you're sa
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On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 08:07:45PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> On 03/23/2016 07:46 PM, John Hasler wrote:
> >David Christensen writes:
> >>If I am running version N, have changed the configuration file to M',
> >>and then upgrade to version N+1,
On 2016-03-24, David Christensen wrote:
> On 03/23/2016 07:46 PM, John Hasler wrote:
>> David Christensen writes:
>>> If I am running version N, have changed the configuration file to M',
>>> and then upgrade to version N+1, you're saying dist-upgrade throws
>>> away +X and -Y. I may want or need
On 03/23/2016 07:46 PM, John Hasler wrote:
David Christensen writes:
If I am running version N, have changed the configuration file to M',
and then upgrade to version N+1, you're saying dist-upgrade throws
away +X and -Y. I may want or need those.
The package management system will notice tha
David Christensen writes:
> If I am running version N, have changed the configuration file to M',
> and then upgrade to version N+1, you're saying dist-upgrade throws
> away +X and -Y. I may want or need those.
The package management system will notice that you have changed the
file. You will be
On 03/23/2016 12:44 AM, chrisb@localhost.localdomain wrote:
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 06:40:18PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
I'm not a good Debian owner. I download and install 3rd party software. I
modify system configuration files.
As do most of us. An upgrade won't overwrite configurati
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 10:52:25PM +, Brian wrote:
> William Lee Valentine's only post is about installing newer kernels and
> has nothing to with booting a Debian image.
Which probably means he wasn't subscribed. :(
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 06:40:18PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> On 03/18/2016 02:13 PM, Curt wrote:
> >I have never had a failed dist-upgrade. Of course, you gotta follow the
> >goddamn directions, do about five or ten minutes of reading of the
> >appropriate material, which isn't too much to
On Sun 20 Mar 2016 at 12:23:03 (+0300), Adam Wilson wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 15:09:51 -0500
> David Wright wrote:
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> With this much work, it would probably be easier just to do a wipe and
> re-install, since the process you described basically nukes the system
> down to the bar
On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 15:09:51 -0500
David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 17 Mar 2016 at 16:18:14 (-0700), William Lee Valentine wrote:
> > I have installed Debian 2.6.32-5-686 on two machines. One, a custom
> > machine, has a Pentium III processor running at 800 megahertz, and
> > has 500 megabytes of mem
On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 18:40:27 +
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 18 March 2016 17:55:50 Ric Moore wrote:
> > On 03/18/2016 01:22 PM, David Christensen wrote:
> > > On 03/18/2016 01:21 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 2016-03-17 at 19:27 -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> > >>> Debian
On Thu 17 Mar 2016 at 16:18:14 (-0700), William Lee Valentine wrote:
> I have installed Debian 2.6.32-5-686 on two machines. One, a custom
> machine, has a Pentium III processor running at 800 megahertz, and has
> 500 megabytes of memory; the other is an IBM Mpro Intellistation 6229
> with a Pentiu
On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 18:31:24 (-0700), David Christensen wrote:
> You're a better man than myself. :-) I recycled all of my Pentium
> III machines. My 32-bit Pentium 4's will soon follow...
Well, this Pentium III is the last machine I had on my desk at work,
so I'll probably run it until it d
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 09:21:12AM +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-03-17 at 19:27 -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> > Debian 6 is obsolete. You're going to want to do a
> > backup-wipe-install-restore cycle on both machines and move to Deb
On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 20:06:32 (+), Brian wrote:
> On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 14:44:31 -0500, David Wright wrote:
>
> > But I've had no difficulty booting Debian from CD on any of my machines.
> > Obviously USBs are unsuitable for the ancient ones, though I await
> > a response to
> > https://lists
On Friday 18 March 2016 17:55:50 Ric Moore wrote:
> On 03/18/2016 01:22 PM, David Christensen wrote:
> > On 03/18/2016 01:21 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2016-03-17 at 19:27 -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> >>> Debian 6 is obsolete. You're going to want to do a
> >>> backup-wipe-install-
On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 10:22:49 (-0700), David Christensen wrote:
> On 03/18/2016 01:21 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> >On Thu, 2016-03-17 at 19:27 -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> >>Debian 6 is obsolete. You're going to want to do a
> >>backup-wipe-install-restore cycle on both machines and move to D
On 2016-03-19, David Christensen wrote:
>>
>> This wipe business strikes me as vaguely scatological. Clean and
>> cruftless and wiped (and do they wash their hands fifty times a day
>> too, just to be impeccable)?
>
> I'm not a good Debian owner. I download and install 3rd party software.
> I
On Thu, 2016-03-17 at 19:27 -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> Debian 6 is obsolete. You're going to want to do a
> backup-wipe-install-restore cycle on both machines and move to Debian
> 7
> (or 8).
Why not do a dist-upgrade?
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On Thu 17 Mar 2016 at 19:27:31 (-0700), David Christensen wrote:
> On 03/17/2016 04:18 PM, William Lee Valentine wrote:
> >I have installed Debian 2.6.32-5-686 on two machines. One, a custom
> >machine, has a Pentium III processor running at 800 megahertz, and
> >has 500 megabytes of memory; the ot
On 03/17/2016 04:18 PM, William Lee Valentine wrote:
I have installed Debian 2.6.32-5-686 on two machines. One, a custom
machine, has a Pentium III processor running at 800 megahertz, and
has 500 megabytes of memory; the other is an IBM Mpro Intellistation
6229 with a Pentium processor runn
On 03/18/2016 02:05 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
I agree. The dist upgrade was problematic and I finally had to wipe the root
partition for a clean install. Thankfully, from my Caldera days, I use /opt
Hmm.. just to give a counter-point, almost all my current Debian
installs are the result of a st
On Thursday 17 March 2016 23:18:14 William Lee Valentine wrote:
> I have installed Debian 2.6.32-5-686
2.6.32-5-686 is a kernel number. Since you call it Debian 2.6.32-5-686 it is
presumably a Debian compiled kernel. Which version of Debian? This
https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/linux-image
On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 14:44:31 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> But I've had no difficulty booting Debian from CD on any of my machines.
> Obviously USBs are unsuitable for the ancient ones, though I await
> a response to
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/03/msg00677.html
> with bated breath
> I agree. The dist upgrade was problematic and I finally had to wipe the root
> partition for a clean install. Thankfully, from my Caldera days, I use /opt
Hmm.. just to give a counter-point, almost all my current Debian
installs are the result of a stream of upgrades+clones from the first
instal
On 2016-03-18, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> I agree. The dist upgrade was problematic and I finally had to wipe the root
>> partition for a clean install. Thankfully, from my Caldera days, I use /opt
>
> Hmm.. just to give a counter-point, almost all my current Debian
> installs are the result of a st
On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 22:52:25 (+), Brian wrote:
> On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 16:09:47 -0500, David Wright wrote:
>
> > On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 20:06:32 (+), Brian wrote:
> > > On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 14:44:31 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > >
> > > > But I've had no difficulty booting Debian from
On 03/18/2016 02:13 PM, Curt wrote:
I have never had a failed dist-upgrade. Of course, you gotta follow the
goddamn directions, do about five or ten minutes of reading of the
appropriate material, which isn't too much to ask I wouldn't think.
This wipe business strikes me as vaguely scatological
On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 16:09:47 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 20:06:32 (+), Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 14:44:31 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> >
> > > But I've had no difficulty booting Debian from CD on any of my machines.
> > > Obviously USBs are unsuitable for
On 03/18/2016 01:22 PM, David Christensen wrote:
On 03/18/2016 01:21 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
On Thu, 2016-03-17 at 19:27 -0700, David Christensen wrote:
Debian 6 is obsolete. You're going to want to do a
backup-wipe-install-restore cycle on both machines and move to Debian
7
(or 8).
Why not
On 03/18/2016 12:44 PM, David Wright wrote:
On Thu 17 Mar 2016 at 19:27:31 (-0700), David Christensen wrote:
If/ when you get the
Debian installer going, install to a HDD, don't use encryption, and
only install:
SSH server
Standard system utilities
You can add things carefully after
On 03/18/2016 01:21 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
On Thu, 2016-03-17 at 19:27 -0700, David Christensen wrote:
Debian 6 is obsolete. You're going to want to do a
backup-wipe-install-restore cycle on both machines and move to Debian
7
(or 8).
Why not do a dist-upgrade?
1. The few times I tried, I
On 19/03/16 09:06, David Wright wrote:
>>> I'm currently using manual procedures and home-grown scripts.
>>> The next step up would be a deployment/ management automation
>>> tool such as Puppet:
>>>
>>> https://puppetlabs.com/
> I can get a lot of hardware for $3000!
Puppet Enterprise is $3000.
On 03/18/2016 01:06 PM, David Wright wrote:
On Fri 18 Mar 2016 at 10:22:49 (-0700), David Christensen wrote:
https://puppetlabs.com/
I can get a lot of hardware for $3000!
That's why I would use the Debian version:
2016-03-18 18:20:22 dpchrist@t7400 ~
$ cat /etc/debian_version
On 03/18/2016 07:03 PM, David Wright wrote:
Well, this Pentium III is the last machine I had on my desk at work,
so I'll probably run it until it dies, for sentimental reasons.
I'm retired; you're probably running machines for professional
reasons, which carries responsibilities I no longer have.
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