Re: Install Debian on SD

2014-01-25 Thread T o n g
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:31:14 +, James Kirk wrote: > I would like to install debian on a SD (I've only a Company laptop and I > would like to not modify the standard configuration). Yep, that's the same reason that I installed my debian onto my USB key several years ago. > Since SD is a flas

Re: Install Debian on SD

2014-01-22 Thread Richard Hector
On 23/01/14 16:24, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 1/22/2014 11:22 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: >> Defeating the cache causes a lot of I/O for flash storage. > > This is patently false. fsync() causes no additional write IO. It > simply commits "right now". Buffer cache simply delays the writes. The > S

Re: Install Debian on SD

2014-01-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 1/22/2014 9:12 PM, Артур Истомин wrote: > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:10:35PM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> The OP will be using a browser. Browser cache writes, index updates, >> etc, will be far in excess of swap writes. If he uses Thunderbird >> (IceDove) with GLODA and offline caching enab

Re: Install Debian on SD

2014-01-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 1/22/2014 11:22 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Another thing that I did was to install 'eatmydata' in order to use > the LD_PRELOAD library to disable fsync(). A lot of applications have > added fsync() calls everywhere to disable the file system buffer > cache. fsync() doesn't disable the buffer

Re: Install Debian on SD

2014-01-22 Thread Артур Истомин
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:10:35PM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > The OP will be using a browser. Browser cache writes, index updates, > etc, will be far in excess of swap writes. If he uses Thunderbird > (IceDove) with GLODA and offline caching enabled, that will produce even > more writes. What

Re: Install Debian on SD

2014-01-22 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:57:27 -0700 Bob Proulx napísal: > I wouldn't say the slower device is of lower quality. By quality I > was referring to the internal spares and firmware for managing them > for wear leveling. A good quality card should last through a lot of > write cycles. A poor

Re: Install Debian on SD

2014-01-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Slavko wrote: > Bob Proulx napísal: > > James Kirk wrote: > > > Since SD is a flash memory and - as far as I know - it has a limited > > > lifetime (in terms of I/O) not thought to run an OS, > > > > The quality of the SD depends upon the vendor. And unfortunately it > > is a "market for lemons"

Re: Install Debian on SD

2014-01-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Talking about tuning the Raspbery Pi folks set vm.swappiness=1 which I > > disagree with. I suggest using the Linux upstream default of > > vm.swappiness=60 or even higher. Proponents of disabling program swap > > by setting it low say that they never

Re: Install Debian on SD

2014-01-22 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Tue, 21 Jan 2014 16:19:42 -0700 Bob Proulx napísal: > James Kirk wrote: > > I would like to install debian on a SD (I've only a Company laptop > > and I would like to not modify the standard configuration). > > Sounds reasonable to me. > > > Since SD is a flash memory and - as far as I

Re: Install Debian on SD

2014-01-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 1/21/2014 5:19 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > James Kirk wrote: >> I would like to install debian on a SD (I've only a Company laptop >> and I would like to not modify the standard configuration). > > Sounds reasonable to me. > >> Since SD is a flash memory and - as far as I know - it has a limited >

Re: Install Debian on SD

2014-01-21 Thread Brian
On Tue 21 Jan 2014 at 22:31:14 +, James Kirk wrote: > I would like to install debian on a SD (I've only a Company laptop and > I would like to not modify the standard configuration). > > Since SD is a flash memory and - as far as I know - it has a limited > lifetime (in terms of I/O) not tho

Re: Install Debian on SD

2014-01-21 Thread Bob Proulx
James Kirk wrote: > I would like to install debian on a SD (I've only a Company laptop > and I would like to not modify the standard configuration). Sounds reasonable to me. > Since SD is a flash memory and - as far as I know - it has a limited > lifetime (in terms of I/O) not thought to run an O