Re: Idea: Rename package `udev` to `systemd-udev`, plus new `udev` metapackage, to "preserve freedom of choice of init systems".

2014-11-02 Thread Martin Read
On 02/11/14 01:37, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: Thoughts?! As I understand it, eudev is intended to provide all of udev's externally-visible functionality in an interface-compatible way, so it seems to me that whoever packages eudev should *probably* be able to declare it to be an adequate replace

Re: Idea: Rename package `udev` to `systemd-udev`, plus new `udev` metapackage, to "preserve freedom of choice of init systems".

2014-11-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 01 nov 14, 23:37:32, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > > I'm thinking here about the future of `udev` and alt-init systems > (systemd-sysv | sysvinit-core | upstart)... > > Apparently, `udev` will stop working without systemd = PID1 (am I > right?), [citation needed] Kind regards, Andrei -- htt

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-17 Thread Bogart Salzberg
On Mar 9, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 27 February 2008 06:06:37 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:41:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: - Forwarded message from Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I also would like to spend some Debian money

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 09 March 2008 05:53:50 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:37:38PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Thursday 28 February 2008 03:09:48 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > I'd be very interested in Debian, with aptitude, etc, with the OpenBSD > > > kernel. To me, this wo

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:37:38PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thursday 28 February 2008 03:09:48 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > I'd be very interested in Debian, with aptitude, etc, with the OpenBSD > > kernel. To me, this would be the best of both worlds. > > Debian, being the universal op

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 28 February 2008 03:09:48 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:30:23PM -0800, debian azul wrote: > > Debian does not need a friendly mascot. That is ridiculous. Debian is > > well known because it is great work not because its appearance is nice or > > cool. There are

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 06 March 2008 03:25:25 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > Or, was there a pig in Toy Story? Does Pixar use Debian on its boxes > and would they lend us non-exclusive rights to use the image? Yup, and there was even a Debian version named after him. "Hamm." -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 27 February 2008 08:44:57 pm Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: > ... > > > Many of my windows using mates are at least familiar with Tux, even > > though many have only ever used linux at my place (and then only > > using firefox to check email, har

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 03 March 2008 03:07:27 am Richard Lyons wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 08:44:14PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > [...] > > > http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/calimero.jpg > > http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/little_pinguin.jpg > > Excellent for breaking into the primary school market!

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 09:08:13 am Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 11:48:18PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > It's very disturbing that you know so much lolcode. > > He probably wrote the debian-installer. > > It lol when it sees my old boxes. > > "Whahaha! you're still usin

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 01 March 2008 11:44:02 pm Chris Bannister wrote: > http://www.rastageeks.org/~toots/debian/bisounours-debian.jpg No me gusta! -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 27 February 2008 06:06:37 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:41:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > - Forwarded message from Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > > >I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to > > the FreeBSD

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 12:07:27PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 08:44:14PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > [...] > > > > http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/calimero.jpg > > http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/little_pinguin.jpg > > Excellent for breaking into the primary scho

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-06 Thread s. keeling
Marcelo Chiapparini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 04:38 +0100, s. keeling wrote: > > > > Killjoy. You're right of course, but the ammonite has its charms. > > But due to the ammonite be an extincted mascot, I think it reinforces > the general believe out there that debian stabl

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 09:04:58AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 04/03/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > watts, with 32MB ram, at a frequency in the FM band? > > Your CPU runs at a frequency in the FM band? That's the funniest thing > I've ever heard! I am going to recycle tha

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 04:38:59AM +0100, s. keeling wrote: > debian azul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > I think that debian logo is perfect for debian project. Debian > > doesn't need a mascot. I think that is ridiculos > > Killjoy. You're right of course, but the ammonite has its charms. > It'

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-06 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 04/03/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> watts, with 32MB ram, at a frequency in the FM band? > > Your CPU runs at a frequency in the FM band? That's the funniest thing > I've ever heard! I am going to recycle

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-06 Thread Damon L. Chesser
s. keeling wrote: Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Thursday 28 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: Debian could use an image revamp, last night i was messing with a There is a revamped i

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-06 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 04:38 +0100, s. keeling wrote: > debian azul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > I think that debian logo is perfect for debian project. Debian > > doesn't need a mascot. I think that is ridiculos > > Killjoy. You're right of course, but the ammonite has its charms. > It's not l

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 04/03/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > watts, with 32MB ram, at a frequency in the FM band? Your CPU runs at a frequency in the FM band? That's the funniest thing I've ever heard! I am going to recycle that joke to death! Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-05 Thread s. keeling
debian azul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I think that debian logo is perfect for debian project. Debian > doesn't need a mascot. I think that is ridiculos Killjoy. You're right of course, but the ammonite has its charms. It's not like it's a care bear or Tux. I preferred the Arctic Tern (?) that

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-05 Thread debian azul
I think that debian logo is perfect for debian project. Debian doesn't need a mascot. I think that is ridiculos

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 11:48:18PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/03/08 23:32, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... > > > > > > HAI > > > > CAN HAZ DOODZ? > > > > I HAZ A VAR > > > > TELLAT DOODZ "aptitude search lol" > > GIMME DOODZ IN TEH VAR > > > > IZ VAR MT? > >NOWAI > > VISIBLE "

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 11:48:18PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > It's very disturbing that you know so much lolcode. He probably wrote the debian-installer. It lol when it sees my old boxes. "Whahaha! you're still using a box that has no fan, uses 20 watts, with 32MB ram, at a fr

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-03 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/03/08 23:32, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 05:12:24AM +0100, s. keeling wrote: >> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:12:48PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: I ARE STABLE CAT... TH

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 05:12:24AM +0100, s. keeling wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:12:48PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > > > > I ARE STABLE CAT... THIS IS STABLE DISTRIBUSHON. > > > > > > I'M ON UR SERVER, RUNNING UR DEBIAN > > > > we co

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-03 Thread s. keeling
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:12:48PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 09:21:41 -0800, David Fox wrote: > > > On 3/1/08, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.rastageeks.org/~toots/debian/bisounours-debian.jpg > > > > >

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-03 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 12:47:01 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:12:48PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 09:21:41 -0800, David Fox wrote: > > > On 3/1/08, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.rastageeks.org/~toots/debian/bisouno

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-03 Thread Richard Lyons
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 08:44:14PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: [...] > > http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/calimero.jpg > http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/little_pinguin.jpg Excellent for breaking into the primary school market! richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:12:48PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 09:21:41 -0800, David Fox wrote: > > On 3/1/08, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > > http://www.rastageeks.org/~toots/debian/bisounours-debian.jpg > > > > > > > no no care bears :) > > What about lolcats? > >

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-02 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 09:21:41 -0800, David Fox wrote: > On 3/1/08, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > http://www.rastageeks.org/~toots/debian/bisounours-debian.jpg > > > > no no care bears :) What about lolcats? I ARE STABLE CAT... THIS IS STABLE DISTRIBUSHON. I'M ON UR SERVER, RUNNING UR DEBIAN

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-02 Thread David Fox
On 3/1/08, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.rastageeks.org/~toots/debian/bisounours-debian.jpg > no no care bears :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 06:14:22PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:41:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > This message was posted by Sam Hocevar (current Debian Project Leader) > ... > > > >I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar t

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 02:26:26AM +, Peter Tynan wrote: > On 28/02/2008, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:41:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > This message was posted by Sam Hocevar (current Debian Project Leader) > > > > ... > > > > > > >

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 09:55:08AM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > "I love the cream swirling into the coffee graphic that was a > bootsplash at some point. Don't know if it's still around, but it sure > captures my image of debian." > > If it doesn't even remotely hint of Java i'll vote for that.

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-01 Thread Chuck Rhode
Andrew Henry wrote this on Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:00:15PM +0100. My reply is below. > I've always thought it was quite a fitting icon for a free software > distro, but I suppose it means different things to different people. The light blue on blue background splash reminds me of a Tidybowl comm

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-29 Thread Andrew Henry
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > The Debian Swirl reminds me of some kind of worm or shellfish. > > The Debian HookWorm? > The Debian RingWorm? Digs into your Sole (Soul)? Lord of the RingWorm? > The Debian Tapeworm? Makes you hungry for more! > > The Debian Krill? (Eaten by Puffy?) > > The Debian Swi

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-29 Thread Patter
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:00:15 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > "I love the cream swirling into the coffee graphic that was a > bootsplash at some point. Don't know if it's still around, but it sure > captures my image of debian." > > If it doesn't even remotely hint of Java i'll vote for that. I mad

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-29 Thread Nuno Magalhães
"I love the cream swirling into the coffee graphic that was a bootsplash at some point. Don't know if it's still around, but it sure captures my image of debian." If it doesn't even remotely hint of Java i'll vote for that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsub

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread Chuck Rhode
s. keeling wrote this on Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 03:03:40AM +0100. My reply is below. > There was an ancient, giant snail sort of thing (whose name escapes > me) which spent it's life floating in the ocean wherever the > currwent took it. Some fossils are a few feet across. Ah, yes, the ammonites:

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 06:09:48PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > Next time I have a spare box, I'll work on having an OpenBSD main system > with Debian in a chroot once I tried it with FreeBSD 4.x chroot /debian/ gave a nice bash prompt, but anything needing to access /dev/ or /proc/ had seri

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread s. keeling
Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I'd be very interested in Debian, with aptitude, etc, with the OpenBSD > kernel. To me, this would be the best of both worlds. http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD?highlight=%28freebsd%29 -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insu

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread s. keeling
Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thursday 28 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: > > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > > On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: > > >> > > >> Debian could use an image revamp, last night i was messing with a > > > > > > There is a revamped image with a new logo

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 09:06:37PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:41:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > - Forwarded message from Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > >I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to > > the FreeBSD

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 03:03:40AM +0100, s. keeling wrote: > Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Can't call it the Debian Shrimp since its nees so much memory... > > Bite your tongue: > > (0) phreaque /home/keeling_ free > total used free sharedbuffers

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread s. keeling
Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:41:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > - Forwarded message from Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > >I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to > > the FreeBSD logo contest [2], to crea

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/08 00:03, Rich Healey wrote: [snip] > > DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying mandrake (driva) is better, just that the > installer is prettier, and lets face it, since you only run it once, why > not make installing an eyecandy experience. Doug calls

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:30:23PM -0800, debian azul wrote: > Debian does not need a friendly mascot. That is ridiculous. Debian is well > known because it is great work not because its appearance is nice or cool. > There are many projects that have been working in beautiful distributions > from D

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 05:03:37PM +1100, Rich Healey wrote: > DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying mandrake (driva) is better, just that the > installer is prettier, and lets face it, since you only run it once, why > not make installing an eyecandy experience. Because then it doesn't run well on non-ey

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 28 February 2008, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:22:01AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > I'd rather the same effort be put into the things that give Debian > > its uniqueness in the first place. Maybe I'm a snob on the > > sysadmin/programmer end of things, but if som

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:14:15PM -0600, cothrige wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I have to say, there is nothing friendly about that damn gnu. And that > > statement is in no way a reflection on my views of GNU or it's > > projects. Just that if we're gonna have

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-27 Thread debian azul
Debian does not need a friendly mascot. That is ridiculous. Debian is well known because it is great work not because its appearance is nice or cool. There are many projects that have been working in beautiful distributions from Debian. If somebody works with Debian needs to be responsible not matt

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-27 Thread cothrige
Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There is a revamped image with a new logo and an easy to use GUI > installer one can use if Debian is an issue. It's a fairly large > project. Here's a link to it: > > http://ubuntu.com. > > (I notice, when checking that home page that it seems like it

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-27 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:22:01AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > >> I'd rather the same effort be put into the things that give Debian its >> uniqueness in the first place. Maybe I'm a snob on the >> sysadmin/programmer end o

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:22:01AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > I'd rather the same effort be put into the things that give Debian its > uniqueness in the first place. Maybe I'm a snob on the > sysadmin/programmer end of things, but if someone has a reason to need > Debian instead of Ubuntu, i

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-27 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 28 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: > > ... > > > >> Many of my windows using mates are at least familiar with Tux, > >> even though many have only ever used linux at my place (and then > >> only using firefox t

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-27 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: > ... >> Many of my windows using mates are at least familiar with Tux, even >> though many have only ever used linux at my place (and then only >> using firefox to check email, har

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-27 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: ... > Many of my windows using mates are at least familiar with Tux, even > though many have only ever used linux at my place (and then only > using firefox to check email, hardly the grandest most eye opening > event). Debian is not aimed at the s

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-27 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Tynan wrote: >> I have to say, there is nothing friendly about that damn gnu. And that >> statement is in no way a reflection on my views of GNU or it's >> projects. Just that if we're gonna have a mascot, I lean more towards >> the penguin/snark

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-27 Thread cothrige
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have to say, there is nothing friendly about that damn gnu. And that > statement is in no way a reflection on my views of GNU or it's > projects. Just that if we're gonna have a mascot, I lean more towards > the penguin/snarky-devil side of the

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-27 Thread Peter Tynan
On 28/02/2008, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:41:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > This message was posted by Sam Hocevar (current Debian Project Leader) > > ... > > > > >I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to >

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:41:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > - Forwarded message from Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - >I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to > the FreeBSD logo contest [2], to create a friendly mascot for the Debian > project (in

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:41:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > This message was posted by Sam Hocevar (current Debian Project Leader) ... > >I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to > the FreeBSD logo contest [2], to create a friendly mascot for the Debian > pr

Re: Idea for weekly/monthy wallpaper/themes package

2007-04-25 Thread Anson Gardner
On Friday 20 April 2007 01:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks for the replies, everyone. > > We seem to have two basic ideas: > > 1. A Debian package, updatable with apt. > 2. A GUI app that would manage all the different things and ways to > be updated. > deb http://debian.websterwood.com/ e

Re: Idea for weekly/monthy wallpaper/themes package

2007-04-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I like the idea of daily/weekly/monthly wallpaper. I'd love if it > would be a debian package that > would ask about resolution, how often to update, tags(light/dark, > linux/debian/tux/whatever), > to keep archieve or not, other issues like dual-monitor etc during > configuring. After this pack

Re: Idea for weekly/monthy wallpaper/themes package

2007-04-20 Thread Artyom Kholodny
On 19 Apr 2007 23:23:01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the replies, everyone. We seem to have two basic ideas: 1. A Debian package, updatable with apt. 2. A GUI app that would manage all the different things and ways to be updated. The reason for the whole ide

Re: Idea for weekly/monthy wallpaper/themes package

2007-04-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for the replies, everyone. We seem to have two basic ideas: 1. A Debian package, updatable with apt. 2. A GUI app that would manage all the different things and ways to be updated. The reason for the whole idea, IMO, is to make the process of refreshing your wallpaper automatic. Over t

Re: Idea for weekly/monthy wallpaper/themes package

2007-04-19 Thread Owen Heisler
On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 16:09 -0400, P Kapat wrote: > On 15 Apr 2007 01:52:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Do you have any ideas for how to do it better, or what to include? > > Maybe different themes, like scenery, urban, art, Linux-related, > > water, sky, macro, etc. What do you think? > > But s

Re: Idea for weekly/monthy wallpaper/themes package

2007-04-18 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Mark wrote: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 07:44:13PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >>> Each list has different purposes. Debian-user is about user support. >> Are you sure about that? I thought debian-user was for "Help and >> discussion among users of Deb

Re: Idea for weekly/monthy wallpaper/themes package

2007-04-18 Thread Jose Luis Rivas Contreras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: > Hi list/group, (I seem to be in a slashy mood...) > > I've had an idea for a while to make a package of wallpaper and/or > other theme elements and put it in a repository, updated weekly or > monthly--maybe one package

Re: Idea for weekly/monthy wallpaper/themes package

2007-04-18 Thread P Kapat
On 4/18/07, Dusty Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 15 Apr 2007 01:52:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > So my question is, would anyone be interested in something like that? Yes. I would love it. But it'd need to support both dual-monitor (1280x2048) setups as well as a single widescreen (1280x

Re: Idea for weekly/monthy wallpaper/themes package

2007-04-18 Thread Dusty Wilson
On 15 Apr 2007 01:52:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] So my question is, would anyone be interested in something like that? Yes. I would love it. But it'd need to support both dual-monitor (1280x2048) setups as well as a single widescreen (1280x768) for me to properly enjoy it. Do you have any i

Re: Idea for weekly/monthy wallpaper/themes package

2007-04-18 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 07:44:13PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > Each list has different purposes. Debian-user is about user support. > > Are you sure about that? I thought debian-user was for "Help and > discussion among users of Debian" (quoted from lists.debian.org) I did not expound upon what I

Re: Idea for weekly/monthy wallpaper/themes package

2007-04-18 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Mark wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 10:02:45PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Sounds like something to dicuss at the new debian-community.org site! >>> join the mailing list and if you want a place for these, ask holger. >> Well, thanks, b

Re: Idea for weekly/monthy wallpaper/themes package

2007-04-18 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 10:02:45PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Sounds like something to dicuss at the new debian-community.org site! > > join the mailing list and if you want a place for these, ask holger. > > Well, thanks, but I'm not sure what the point of Yet Another Mailing > List is w

Re: Idea for weekly/monthy wallpaper/themes package

2007-04-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sounds like something to dicuss at the new debian-community.org site! > join the mailing list and if you want a place for these, ask holger. Well, thanks, but I'm not sure what the point of Yet Another Mailing List is when we already have debian-user, which is also available as list archives and

Re: Idea for weekly/monthy wallpaper/themes package

2007-04-15 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 01:52:28AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi list/group, (I seem to be in a slashy mood...) > > I've had an idea for a while to make a package of wallpaper and/or > other theme elements and put it in a repository, updated weekly or > monthly--maybe one package for each--

Re: Idea

2004-09-29 Thread Jacob S
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 06:57:24 -0500 Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > remy harel wrote: > > > I just want to improve the quality of the debian > >lists, and if quality was better, you would have more > >suscribers, especially gurus and experts. > > > > > I suspect the best thing would be to

Re: Idea

2004-09-29 Thread Paul Johnson
<#secure method=pgp mode=sign> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I suspect the best thing would be to take these newb questions and > convert them into an easily found/searched/readable FAQ linked > prominently on the front page of the Debian we

Re: Idea

2004-09-29 Thread Kent West
remy harel wrote: I just want to improve the quality of the debian lists, and if quality was better, you would have more suscribers, especially gurus and experts. I suspect the best thing would be to take these newb questions and convert them into an easily found/searched/readable FAQ linked p

Re: Idea

2004-09-29 Thread remy harel
Thanks for the idea, but I don't want to heard about anything else than Debian and Gentoo. why the hell would I try suse lists ??? It is not because something is worse than you that you are good. I think debian user list has to many mails with newbs subjects, I don't compare it to another mailing

Re: Idea

2004-09-29 Thread Tom Allison
remy harel wrote: I would be happy to help, but there are to many questions in one lists, and overall questions which answers are in the documentations on debian.org. So I thought that spliting the lists would have been a good idea but it seems that some users disagrees. Moreover, debian list is

Re: Idea

2004-09-29 Thread remy harel
In that, in responses to Johnson too, what I want is the best service for debian users, not for me. If I have a serious problem using debian, I first will use google, 95% are already evocated. Second, I will ask to some of my friends, and then I will ask the question to the lists. I have asked t

Re: Idea

2004-09-28 Thread Paul Johnson
<#secure method=pgp mode=sign> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "H. S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Apparently, _Clive Menzies_, on 09/28/04 06:31,typed: > > . > > . >> list. Debian-user may be high maintenance but if you use a good mail >> client (such as mutt) it is fa

Re: Idea

2004-09-28 Thread Paul Johnson
<#secure method=pgp mode=sign> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 remy harel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, why not create for exemple, debian-user-beginner, > debian-user-average and debian-user-expert ? Search the archives, this has been discussed before. Long story short: Beca

Re: Idea

2004-09-28 Thread Tom Allison
They tried this at a LUG nearby. The LUG is in very bad shape as the result for many reasons mentioned here (fragmentation and politics mainly). They are down to about 25% of their original size. While you mean well, I don't think you want that to happen to Debian. Seriously, there's a lot of s

Re: Idea

2004-09-28 Thread Olivier
Eddy wrote: > How does a beginner decide whether the question he's going to ask is of newbie or expert level ? If he posts in the beginner's list just because he is a beginner, he might never get a reply to a difficult question or problem because the experts do not read that list. I already sa

Re: Idea

2004-09-28 Thread theo
Eddy wrote: > How does a beginner decide whether the question he's going to ask is of newbie or expert level ? If he posts in the beginner's list just because he is a beginner, he might never get a reply to a difficult question or problem because the experts do not read that list. I already sa

Re: Idea

2004-09-28 Thread Otto Wyss
> Apparently, _Clive Menzies_, on 09/28/04 06:31,typed: > > . > > . > > list. Debian-user may be high maintenance but if you use a good mail > > client (such as mutt) it is fairly easy to ignore/delete threads of no > > interest. It is a forum where merely by reading the threads > > Or

Re: Idea

2004-09-28 Thread Eddy
Clive Menzies a écrit le 28/09/04 12:40 : On (28/09/04 12:02), remy harel wrote: Hi folks, [...] I was on many debian mailing lists, and I recently left these lists, for 2 main reasons. First, I got more than 100 mails a day, it's a bit too much according to me ! And the second... how to say.. In

Re: Idea

2004-09-28 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, H. S. wrote: > Apparently, _Clive Menzies_, on 09/28/04 06:31,typed: > > . > > . > > list. Debian-user may be high maintenance but if you use a good mail > > client (such as mutt) it is fairly easy to ignore/delete threads of no > > interest. It is a forum where me

Re: Idea

2004-09-28 Thread H. S.
Apparently, _Clive Menzies_, on 09/28/04 06:31,typed: > . > . list. Debian-user may be high maintenance but if you use a good mail client (such as mutt) it is fairly easy to ignore/delete threads of no interest. It is a forum where merely by reading the threads Or if you read them on Gman

Re: Idea

2004-09-28 Thread Alexei Chetroi
On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 11:31:00AM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote: > Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:31:00 +0100 > From: Clive Menzies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: remy harel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Idea

2004-09-28 Thread Clive Menzies
On (28/09/04 12:02), remy harel wrote: > Hi folks, > > Debian user for a long time, I think debian is a > really good project, and a wonderful linux > distribution. One more time, congratulations, and > maybe one day I'll join you to help this project, but > I still hesitate, I don't know if I

Re: idea search

2004-01-05 Thread Brett Carrington
On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 11:41:29PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Any ideas for what servers to use, or have I over complicated > everything? > > > Thanks for anything, > Paul Here are some: fetchmail for POP3, fetchyahoo (I'm pretty sure that's available

Re: Idea: Master Debian FAQ (newbie-centric)

2000-11-06 Thread will trillich
Kenward Vaughan wrote: > There was a brief flurry of notes to one another, then nothing afterwards. the norm, sadly. maybe we can keep it going...? i've started http://newbiedoc.intranets.com/ for the purpose. > I have acquired a 486-66 at work to play with, and have already installed > Debia

Re: Idea: Master Debian FAQ (newbie-centric)

2000-11-06 Thread will trillich
On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 02:22:35PM -0500, William Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > Each one of those topics probably has a handful of "how do I" associated with > it that a very new user would "typically" ask to this list. First off I'd > like > to ask if someone has already gathered a FAQ lik

Re: Idea: Master Debian FAQ (newbie-centric)

2000-10-24 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 06:54:12PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There is allready a lot of documentation around. Rewriting all of that > would be pointless. It might be a good idea to create a big FAQ-index. ... It might be if everyone walking into Linux (Debian, particularly :) spoke the lan

Re: Idea: Master Debian FAQ (newbie-centric)

2000-10-24 Thread capslock2000
There is allready a lot of documentation around. Rewriting all of that would be pointless. It might be a good idea to create a big FAQ-index. eg: Disks & Drives Q How do I read a file from my Windows partition? A Mount package, Windows-To-Linux HOWTO Q How do I access my ZIP drive? A Mount package

Re: Idea: Master Debian FAQ (newbie-centric)

2000-10-23 Thread Kristian Rink
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 14:22:35 -0500 William Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If your interested in this project or have suggestions please feel free to > contact me on the list here or privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would > be a shame to let all the talent that people on this list have stor

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