Re: ISP does not 'support' Linux

2002-12-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 10:35:01AM +, Chris Lale wrote: > Here's an idea arising from the 'Non-Linux-aware ISP: please spoon feed' > thread. How many ISP's helplines say 'we do not support Linux'? Most > ISP's seem to have a webpage with connection instructions for Windows > users. Why not i

Re: ISP does not 'support' Linux

2002-11-29 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 10:35:01AM +, Chris Lale wrote: | Here's an idea arising from the 'Non-Linux-aware ISP: please spoon feed' | thread. How many ISP's helplines say 'we do not support Linux'? Most | ISP's seem to have a webpage with connection instructions for Windows | users. Why not i

Re: ISP does not 'support' Linux

2002-11-29 Thread John Hasler
Richard Hector writes: > Create an XML file format for all the details required: > DNS servers > Dialup number > Authentication type > etc > Write a config utility (or modify pppconfig or whatever) to read it, and > only ask the remaining questions such as username and password. Make those text

Re: ISP does not 'support' Linux

2002-11-29 Thread John Hasler
Chris Lale wrote: > 3. Run pppconfig. Navigate the menus using the spacebar, arrow, tab, and enter keys. Jeronimo Pellegrini writes: > Will it always be available? The ISP could supply it on their CD. It's in Perl and will run on any distribution. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse

Re: ISP does not 'support' Linux

2002-11-29 Thread Craig Genner
That would be a really great idea if most ISP's did it, but... 1. When ISP's say they support Windows they provide call up numbers to help those with windows connection problems. They would have to do the same for Linux and they can hardly say "Sorry, ask you local LUG to help you". Looks bad on

Re: ISP does not 'support' Linux

2002-11-29 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 09:36:30AM -0200, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > I mean, to help tell if it's a winmodem Easiest way is to follow this flow... Is it internal? --- Yes --- Pester your manufacturer, though it's | probably not worth the bother.[1] No | Is

Re: ISP does not 'support' Linux

2002-11-29 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 05:35, Chris Lale wrote: > Here's an idea arising from the 'Non-Linux-aware ISP: please spoon feed' > thread. How many ISP's helplines say 'we do not support Linux'? Most > ISP's seem to have a webpage with connection instructions for Windows > users. Why not instructions f

Re: ISP does not 'support' Linux

2002-11-29 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 12:39:25AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > Create an XML file format for all the details required: ^^^ Yes! Buzzword! Good! :-) I don't like XML (cluttered, too verbose), but it widely accepted in the corporate world. > DNS servers > Dialup number > Authenticat

Re: ISP does not 'support' Linux

2002-11-29 Thread Richard Hector
On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 23:35, Chris Lale wrote: > Here's an idea arising from the 'Non-Linux-aware ISP: please spoon feed' > thread. How many ISP's helplines say 'we do not support Linux'? Most > ISP's seem to have a webpage with connection instructions for Windows > users. Why not instructions f

Re: ISP does not 'support' Linux

2002-11-29 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
> How will the user know? > How will the helpdesk guys know? (If it's a winmodem or not) > On which serial port is it? > Maybe trying to autodetect it (w/ wvdial) would help tell if it a serial modem? I mean, to help tell if it's a winmodem Sorry! J. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: ISP does not 'support' Linux

2002-11-29 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 10:35:01AM +, Chris Lale wrote: > Here's an idea arising from the 'Non-Linux-aware ISP: please spoon feed' > thread. How many ISP's helplines say 'we do not support Linux'? Most > ISP's seem to have a webpage with connection instructions for Windows > users. Why not i

Re: ISP does not 'support' Linux

2002-11-29 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
I'll make some comments, in the hope that they'll help. On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 10:35:01AM +, Chris Lale wrote: > Here's an idea arising from the 'Non-Linux-aware ISP: please spoon feed' > thread. How many ISP's helplines say 'we do not support Linux'? Most > ISP's seem to have a webpage wit