Dirk wrote:
> some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by
> making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now...
I agree that this is objectionable.
In any case, "dpkg --force-help" should tell you what you need to know in
order to get rid of hal.
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Jochen Schulz wrote:
Dirk:
John Hasler wrote:
File a bug against xserver-xorg and firmly but _politely_ explain your
objection.
someone already did...
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515214
Well, the first messages in this bug report weren't very polite
either...
and i j
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:06:34PM +0100, Graham wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:00:22 +0300
> Micha Feigin wrote:
>
> > They know exactly what they do, and it's been in experimental for
> > testing for a long time now. The whole idea is to allow hot plugging
> > devices such as mice, printers et
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:00:22 +0300
Micha Feigin wrote:
> They know exactly what they do, and it's been in experimental for
> testing for a long time now. The whole idea is to allow hot plugging
> devices such as mice, printers etc. If you look in
> /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/
> there are even qui
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:12:25AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 08:51, Dirk wrote:
> > John Hasler wrote:
> >>
> >> Thorny writes:
> >>>
> >>> Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even
[snip]
> Actually, hal is a rather useful piece of technol
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>
> But how to avoid adding hal in a dist-upgradeāļ?
Now you can't, you will have to wait debian release a
xorg-xserver-nohal or similar package (as suggeted in the bug
commented before in this thread)
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On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:01:01 +0200
Dirk wrote:
> Thorny wrote:
> > On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:22:59 +0200, Dirk posted:
> >
> >> Randy Kramer wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote:
> some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows
> by making ha
On 14 Apr 2009, Javier Barroso wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Dirk wrote:
> > John Hasler wrote:
> >>
> >> Thorny writes:
> >>>
> >>> Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even
> >>> though you have now identified your version. You might want to try a
> >>> de
Kelly writes:
> Anyway, X can make very good use of some of the services hal provides,
> and there is no sensein Xorg recreating that functionality when it
> already exists.
That is grounds for a "Suggests", or perhaps even a "Recommends". It is
not grounds for a "Depends".
I know of nothing Hal
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 08:51, Dirk wrote:
> John Hasler wrote:
>>
>> Thorny writes:
>>>
>>> Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even
>>> though you have now identified your version. You might want to try a
>>> developers list rather than a users one. Of course, they m
Dirk:
> John Hasler wrote:
>>
>> File a bug against xserver-xorg and firmly but _politely_ explain your
>> objection.
>
> someone already did...
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515214
>
> and the replies, nitpicking and bullshitting already took more place,
> energy and t
Dirk wrote:
some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by
making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now...
you can get the sovereignty over your system back by purging hal from
your installation and adding this
-
Section "ServerFlags"
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Dirk wrote:
> John Hasler wrote:
>>
>> Thorny writes:
>>>
>>> Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even
>>> though you have now identified your version. You might want to try a
>>> developers list rather than a users one. Of course, they
John Hasler wrote:
Thorny writes:
Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even
though you have now identified your version. You might want to try a
developers list rather than a users one. Of course, they might not like
the way you explain your complaint.
File a bug ag
Thorny writes:
> Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even
> though you have now identified your version. You might want to try a
> developers list rather than a users one. Of course, they might not like
> the way you explain your complaint.
File a bug against xserver-x
Thorny wrote:
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:22:59 +0200, Dirk posted:
Randy Kramer wrote:
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote:
some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows
by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now...
Just for clarification, is this in Debian sta
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:22:59 +0200, Dirk posted:
> Randy Kramer wrote:
>> On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote:
>>> some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows
>>> by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now...
>>
>> Just for clarification, is this in Debian sta
Randy Kramer wrote:
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote:
some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows
by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now...
Just for clarification, is this in Debian stable or test?
Randy Kramer
unstable.. if it was already in stab
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Randy Kramer wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote:
>> some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows
>> by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now...
>
> Just for clarification, is this in Debian stable or test?
In unst
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote:
> some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows
> by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now...
Just for clarification, is this in Debian stable or test?
Randy Kramer
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Javier Barroso wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Dirk wrote:
some true a**hole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by
making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now...
you can get the sovereignty over your system back by purging hal from
your installation and adding this
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Hi,
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Dirk wrote:
> some true a**hole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by
> making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now...
>
> you can get the sovereignty over your system back by purging hal from
> your installation and adding this
>
> ---
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