Re: Great Debian experience

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:46:06 -0400 (EDT), Steve Litt wrote: > > ... > I should probably explain my propensity to install a base system, get > it running, and then use the package manager to add the rest. It comes > from long years of usage of Red Hat, Caldera, Mandrake/Mandriva, and > Ubuntu. On

Re: Great Debian experience

On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 07:25:44 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: > On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:31:46 -0400 (EDT), Steve Litt wrote: > > > > ... > > I also unchecked the Debian Desktop selection. > > ... > > Then I did the following: > > > > apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies > > apt-get install synap

Re: Great Debian experience

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-22 02:30, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Fri, 21 Mar 2014, Ken Heard wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 2014-03-21 00:30, Patrick Bartek wrote: >>> On Thu, 20 Mar 2014, Ken Heard wrote: >>> [snip] I never

Re: Great Debian experience

On Fri, 21 Mar 2014, Ken Heard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2014-03-21 00:30, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Mar 2014, Ken Heard wrote: > > > >> [snip] I never did get LVM going on top of RAID1. Since I had to > >> use an mini-ITX box there would not be

Re: Great Debian experience

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 03/21/2014 12:43 AM, Ken Heard wrote: > On 2014-03-21 00:30, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >> On Thu, 20 Mar 2014, Ken Heard wrote: > >>> [snip] I never did get LVM going on top of RAID1. Since I had to >>> use an mini-ITX box there would not be roo

Re: Great Debian experience

Le 19.03.2014 15:03, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Wednesday 19 March 2014 11:25:44 Stephen Powell wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:31:46 -0400 (EDT), Steve Litt wrote: > ... > I also unchecked the Debian Desktop selection. > ... > Then I did the following: > > apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies > apt

Re: Great Debian experience

On Vi, 21 mar 14, 08:10:44, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 21 March 2014 05:06:52 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > However, if you > > are running amd64 (64 bit) instead of i386 (32 bit) those kernels > > will not be available for you to install via apt-get. > > I get them via aptitude on Wheezy. I init

Re: Great Debian experience

On Friday 21 March 2014 05:06:52 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > However, if you > are running amd64 (64 bit) instead of i386 (32 bit) those kernels > will not be available for you to install via apt-get. I get them via aptitude on Wheezy. I initially installed the backported kernel (new hardware), and

Re: Great Debian experience

On Friday 21 March 2014 04:29:25 Ken Heard wrote: > I discovered just a few minutes ago (c. 11:00 2014-03-21 Friday > where I am) that the latest kernel in wheezy-backports is > 3.13.0.bpo1-amd64 Thanks for the heads up Ken. Have just run full-upgrade. Though I will have ot resatrt to change ke

Re: Great Debian experience

On 21/03/14 16:28, Ken Heard wrote: > On 2014-03-21 04:30, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: >> On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:33:17 +0700 Ken Heard >> wrote: > >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 2014-03-19 23:02, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: >>> * Tel

Re: Great Debian experience

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-21 04:30, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: > On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:33:17 +0700 Ken Heard > wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 2014-03-19 23:02, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: >> >>> * T

Re: Great Debian experience

On Jo, 20 mar 14, 21:51:25, Ken Heard wrote: > > Since reading your post I discovered that the latest kernel now > available is 3.12-0.bpo.1-amd64 which I will now install. There are > other kernels mentioned in wheezy-backports labelled "pae". Since I > don't know what that means I will avoid t

Re: Great Debian experience

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-21 00:30, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Thu, 20 Mar 2014, Ken Heard wrote: > >> [snip] I never did get LVM going on top of RAID1. Since I had to >> use an mini-ITX box there would not be room in it for more than >> the two hard drives already

Re: Great Debian experience

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-20 21:51, Ken Heard wrote: > On 2014-03-20 21:19, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> I have Wheezy 7.4, Trinity 3.5.13.2 and a backported kernel, >> currently 3.12-0.bpo.1-amd64. I have done nothing special - >> just updated and upgraded fairly often

Re: Great Debian experience

On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:33:17 +0700 Ken Heard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2014-03-19 23:02, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: > > > * Tell it to include the nonfree repos > > Did not, but ending up installing the ones I needed anyway. Hi Ken, Humor m

Re: Great Debian experience

On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 03:12:12AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > Am I missing something here?  > > When I dig into my LVM setup, I note that much of the LVM functionality seems > to be oriented to providing RAID-like functionality. Would that explain why > people don't seem to be using LVM together w

Re: Great Debian experience

On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:30 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Thu, 20 Mar 2014, Ken Heard wrote: > > > [snip] > > I never did get LVM going on top of RAID1. Since I had to use an > > mini-ITX box there would not be room in it for more than the two hard > > drives already there and used for the RAI

Re: Great Debian experience

On Thu, 20 Mar 2014, Ken Heard wrote: > [snip] > I never did get LVM going on top of RAID1. Since I had to use an > mini-ITX box there would not be room in it for more than the two hard > drives already there and used for the RAID1. I consequently made a > virtue out of necessity by deciding tha

Re: Great Debian experience

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 09:51:25PM +0700, Ken Heard wrote: > Since reading your post I discovered that the latest kernel now > available is 3.12-0.bpo.1-amd64 which I will now install. There are > other kernels mentioned in wheezy-backports labelled "pae". Since I > don't know what that means I

Re: Great Debian experience

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-20 22:12, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 20 March 2014 14:51:25 Ken Heard wrote: >> I also seem to remember that about a year ago you had trouble >> activating sound in your machine. I will work on that problem >> when I have time. > > Ye

Re: Great Debian experience

On Thursday 20 March 2014 14:51:25 Ken Heard wrote: >  I also seem to > remember that about a year ago you had trouble activating sound in > your machine.  I will work on that problem when I have time. Yes. :-( And my husband's sound is still not working - he only wanted it for the first time th

Re: Great Debian experience

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-20 21:19, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I have Wheezy 7.4, Trinity 3.5.13.2 and a backported kernel, > currently 3.12-0.bpo.1-amd64. I have done nothing special - just > updated and upgraded fairly often. Would this newer kernel perhaps > solve som

Re: Great Debian experience

Hi, Ken, On Thursday 20 March 2014 13:33:17 Ken Heard wrote: > I think having new hardware newer than available drivers probably > did contribute to some of my problems. I did not however want to > try something new like one of the buntus, even though they are > based on Debian; so I stuck with w

Re: Great Debian experience

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-19 23:02, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: > I have a specific set of secrets: > > * Use the network installer, Did CLI (ncurses) mode, Was not sure what these were but discovered that I did use CLI but not ncurses. Expert In

Re: Great Debian experience

On 20/03/14 22:29, Joel Rees wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Zenaan Harkness > wrote: > > On 3/20/14, Patrick Bartek > wrote: > >> Here's some guidelines to reduce install/run problems. > >> 2. Motherboard and graphic card chips

Re: d-i LVM bugs and sound [Re: Great Debian experience]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-19 22:31, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 19 Mar 2014, Ken Heard wrote: >> My latest experience was a new installation of Wheezy in a new >> box. It took me the entire month of January to get the OS and >> essential applications to the point

Re: Great Debian experience

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 3/20/14, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > Here's some guidelines to reduce install/run problems. > > > 2. Motherboard and graphic card chips can be a problem in general, new > > or old. I try to stick with nVidia, Realtek and AMD. I avoid

Re: Great Debian experience

On Thursday 20 March 2014 00:12:53 Charles Kroeger wrote: > I'm awfully American but I once lived in your country for many > enjoyable years. Tell me this, are you English Scottish Welsh > Northern Irish or just British I'm a European British English Cockney. Well, I would be if the Germans hadn

Re: Great Debian experience

Helmut Wollmersdorfer writes: > Desktops and laptops get whole disk or whole free space. I admit that a common user could not be able to benefit from LVM, but keeping at least system software on one partitions and homes on another could ease distribution reinstallations. -- /\

Re: Great Debian experience

Am 19.03.2014 um 15:32 schrieb Ken Heard : > > My latest experience was a new installation of Wheezy in a new box. > It took me the entire month of January to get the OS and essential > applications to the point where the machine became usable. Yes it > works, but so does a Ford model T. For

Re: Great Debian experience

>> > 4. Stick with manufacturers who overtly support Linux. >> >> Which certainly includes Intel (these days) in a pretty big way! > > It's been so long (years!) since I read anything regarding Intel that > because of what you've said, perhaps it's time I catch up with > what Intel's been up to. h

Re: Great Debian experience

On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 02:10:01 +0100 Scott Ferguson wrote: > or *cough* Orkadian *cough* :) The selkie that deud no' forget Ae time langsine, Mansie Meur wus pickan' lempeds i' the ebb, on the wast side o' Hacksness i' Sanday, whin he wus stunned tae hear some wey amang the rocks a unco' ceurio

Re: Great Debian experience

On Thu, 20 Mar 2014, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 3/20/14, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > Here's some guidelines to reduce install/run problems. > > > 2. Motherboard and graphic card chips can be a problem in general, > > new or old. I try to stick with nVidia, Realtek and AMD. I avoid > > Intel a

Re: Great Debian experience

On 3/20/14, Patrick Bartek wrote: > Here's some guidelines to reduce install/run problems. > 2. Motherboard and graphic card chips can be a problem in general, new > or old. I try to stick with nVidia, Realtek and AMD. I avoid Intel and > Broadcom, particularly the newest chips. Older ones are

Re: Great Debian experience

On Wed, 19 Mar 2014, Ken Heard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > It never ceases to amaze me that there are people can get various > iterations of Debian "working out of the box". Ever since Sarge I > have had no end of trouble either with new installations or upgrades

Re: Great Debian experience

On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 07:18:09 PM Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Deo Soli Debianae Invicto Seculari > > While we are correcting each other, Liddle and Scott prefers > saeculari. You must be American! Bohemians. The whole lot of us. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debi

Re: Great Debian experience

On 20/03/14 11:12, Charles Kroeger wrote: > On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 00:30:03 +0100 > Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> You must be American! > > I'm awfully American but I once lived in your country for many enjoyable > years. > Tell me this, are you English Scottish Welsh Northern Irish or just British or *

Re: Great Debian experience

On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 00:30:03 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > You must be American! I'm awfully American but I once lived in your country for many enjoyable years. Tell me this, are you English Scottish Welsh Northern Irish or just British I got the original from a reference to Mithra (the sun god not

Re: Great Debian experience

Reposting to try to get this in the correct thread. On Wednesday 19 March 2014 17:47:20 Charles Kroeger wrote: > On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:10:02 +0100 > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > fenestral hordes. > > I rather like your description of them but wouldn't it have been > more proper to use the term 'fenes

Re: Great Debian experience

On Wednesday 19 March 2014 23:18:09 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 19 March 2014 17:47:20 Charles Kroeger wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:10:02 +0100 > > > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > fenestral hordes. > > > > I rather like your description of them but wouldn't it have been > > more proper to us

Re: Great Debian experience

On Wednesday 19 March 2014 19:45:58 Stephen Powell wrote: > Perhaps you suggested this in another thread, but I don't see it it > this thread, Lisi. Probably - I didn't check. I was just referring to your reference to the information being too late for thsi install. > But I believe that the met

Re: Great Debian experience

On Wednesday 19 March 2014 17:47:20 Charles Kroeger wrote: > On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:10:02 +0100 > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > fenestral hordes. > > I rather like your description of them but wouldn't it have been > more proper to use the term 'fenestrated' it is an adjective. In > anatomy, this would

Re: Great Debian experience

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Scott Ferguson < scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 20/03/14 04:47, Charles Kroeger wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:10:02 +0100 > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > >> fenestral hordes. > > > > I rather like your description of them but wouldn't it have be

Re: Great Debian experience

On 20/03/14 04:47, Charles Kroeger wrote: > On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:10:02 +0100 > Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> fenestral hordes. > > I rather like your description of them but wouldn't it have been more proper > to use > the term 'fenestrated' it is an adjective. In anatomy, this would apply to > 'ha

Re: Great Debian experience

On 20/03/14 01:32, Ken Heard wrote: > It never ceases to amaze me that there are people can get various > iterations of Debian "working out of the box". That it does happen is testament that "Debian does things right". The vast majority of people who install Debian for their own use make little o

Re: Great Debian experience, part 2

I'm running squeeze on a 2003 IBM T40 - also 2Gig. It runs fine and runs Lotus Notes fine as well. I'm backlevel because Notes is broken on the latest Gnome. It's just a machine I use to boot, look, shutdown and it's wonderfully fast for that. Replaced Windows XP which was a pig and going out o

Re: Great Debian experience

On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:03:03 -0400 (EDT). Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Choosing XFCE from the beginning has already been suggested. > I suggested choosing expert install and then choosing XFCE before being > taken back to the ordinary installation. This also has the advantage > that you don't have to

Re: Great Debian experience

On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 21:32:10 +0700 Ken Heard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > It never ceases to amaze me that there are people can get various > iterations of Debian "working out of the box". Ever since Sarge I > have had no end of trouble either with new installati

Re: Great Debian experience

On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:10:02 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > fenestral hordes. I rather like your description of them but wouldn't it have been more proper to use the term 'fenestrated' it is an adjective. In anatomy, this would apply to 'having perforations, apertures suggesting perhaps of having b

d-i LVM bugs and sound [Re: Great Debian experience]

On Wed, 19 Mar 2014, Ken Heard wrote: > My latest experience was a new installation of Wheezy in a new box. It > took me the entire month of January to get the OS and essential > applications to the point where the machine became usable. Yes it > works, but so does a Ford model T. For example I wan

Re: Great Debian experience

On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:32:10 Ken Heard wrote: > It never ceases to amaze me that there are people can get various > iterations of Debian "working out of the box". Ever since Sarge I > have had no end of trouble either with new installations or upgrades, > to the point that I dread every

Re: Great Debian experience

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It never ceases to amaze me that there are people can get various iterations of Debian "working out of the box". Ever since Sarge I have had no end of trouble either with new installations or upgrades, to the point that I dread every new iteration. I

Re: Great Debian experience

On Wednesday 19 March 2014 11:25:44 Stephen Powell wrote: > On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:31:46 -0400 (EDT), Steve Litt wrote: > > ... > > I also unchecked the Debian Desktop selection. > > ... > > Then I did the following: > > > > apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies > > apt-get install synaptic > > apt-g

Re: Great Debian experience

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:31:46 -0400 (EDT), Steve Litt wrote: > > ... > I also unchecked the Debian Desktop selection. > ... > Then I did the following: > > apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies > apt-get install synaptic > apt-get install iceweasel > ... I realize that this is too late for this ins

Re: Great Debian experience

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Here's why I like Debian Stable... > > My daughter's computer broke, so last night I took a three year, 3GB > RAM, old wreck of a laptop and, using the Debian 7.4 network > installer, installed Wheezy. I chose expert install, told it to > inst

Re: Great Debian experience

Hello, El 18/03/2014 19:54, "Steve Litt" escribió: > > Hi all, > > Here's why I like Debian Stable... > Then I looked up instructions > on how to install Skype, and after a little experimentation because the > instructions weren't perfect, Skype was installed. If you followed wiki.debian.org