Re: Flatpak memory usage

2023-02-16 Thread paulf
On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 17:12:12 -0500 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 1:11 AM wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 10:36:12PM -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com > > wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > I find the trend disturbing. If you have a lot of apps running, > > > and they're all the

Re: Flatpak memory usage

2023-02-16 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 1:11 AM wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 10:36:12PM -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > > [...] > > > I find the trend disturbing. If you have a lot of apps running, and > > they're all these types of packages, you're going to be using > > considerably more memory [..

Re: Flatpak memory usage

2023-02-16 Thread tomas
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 09:13:06AM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: [...] > > In a distro, applications have to get along with each other, agree > > on a common set of libraries, file system layout, etc. I think this > > is a Good Thing. Every app carrying its own little distro is like > > neoliberal

Re: Flatpak memory usage

2023-02-16 Thread tomas
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 01:34:11AM -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: [...] > I trust Debian to audit and ensure my packages are secure and > interoperable. I don't necessarily trust Canonical or Flathub. That's a very good condensate. That's my take, too. Cheers -- t signature.asc Descri

Re: Flatpak memory usage

2023-02-16 Thread tomas
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 12:18:45PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I'm not a friend of flatpaks and similar concepts, either. For me, > > it's not memory use, but the shifting of power from a distrubution > > model to single applications. I find that makes software less "free". > > Indeed. These

Re: Flatpak memory usage

2023-02-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I'm not a friend of flatpaks and similar concepts, either. For me, > it's not memory use, but the shifting of power from a distrubution > model to single applications. I find that makes software less "free". Indeed. These end up reproducing the black-box model "it just works". If you like that,

Re: Flatpak memory usage

2023-02-15 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (12023-02-15): > I'm not a friend of flatpaks and similar concepts, either. For me, > it's not memory use, but the shifting of power from a distrubution > model to single applications. I find that makes software less "free". > > In a distro, applications have to get along with eac

Re: Flatpak memory usage

2023-02-14 Thread paulf
On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 07:11:02 +0100 wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 10:36:12PM -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com > wrote: > > [...] > > > I find the trend disturbing. If you have a lot of apps running, and > > they're all these types of packages, you're going to be using > > considerably more memo

Re: Flatpak memory usage

2023-02-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 10:36:12PM -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: [...] > I find the trend disturbing. If you have a lot of apps running, and > they're all these types of packages, you're going to be using > considerably more memory [...] I'm not a friend of flatpaks and similar concepts,

Re: Flatpak memory usage

2023-02-14 Thread paulf
On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 23:55:03 +0100 Oliver Schoede wrote: > On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 09:35:34 -0500 > wrote: > > >Am I correct in assuming that package formats like Flatpak, Snap and > >Appimage, because they package up everything with the executable, > >would consume more system memory? [snip] >

Re: Flatpak memory usage

2023-02-14 Thread Oliver Schoede
On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 09:35:34 -0500 wrote: >Am I correct in assuming that package formats like Flatpak, Snap and >Appimage, because they package up everything with the executable, would >consume more system memory? One of the reasons to use these formats is >to avoid library version mismatches, an

Re: Flatpak memory usage

2023-02-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 09:35:34AM -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > Am I correct in assuming that package formats like Flatpak, Snap and > Appimage, because they package up everything with the executable, would > consume more system memory? "Yes, but it depends." Let's say you have two app