Re: Disable a service

2011-04-11 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Joel Roth wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 04:44:02AM -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: >> On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 17:33 -0400, Tom H wrote: >>> >>> You're welcome. I should perhaps add that there's probably a >>> possibility of Debian moving to systemd rather than

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-11 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Joel Roth wrote: > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 05:33:10PM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Joel Roth wrote: >> > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 05:51:12AM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> It's interesting/weird that there isn't a canonical way - other than >> br

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-11 Thread shawn wilson
On Apr 11, 2011 4:44 AM, "John A. Sullivan III" < jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com> wrote: > > On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 17:33 -0400, Tom H wrote: > > > You're welcome. I should perhaps add that there's probably a > > possibility of Debian moving to systemd rather than upstart and > > therefore adopting

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-11 Thread Joel Roth
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 04:44:02AM -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 17:33 -0400, Tom H wrote: > > > You're welcome. I should perhaps add that there's probably a > > possibility of Debian moving to systemd rather than upstart and > > therefore adopting (and possibly adapti

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-11 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 17:33 -0400, Tom H wrote: > You're welcome. I should perhaps add that there's probably a > possibility of Debian moving to systemd rather than upstart and > therefore adopting (and possibly adapting) Red Hat's service and > chkconfig. > > I'd be very happy to see that if an

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-10 Thread Joel Roth
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 05:33:10PM -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Joel Roth wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 05:51:12AM -0400, Tom H wrote: > It's interesting/weird that there isn't a canonical way - other than > breaking some rule(s) by using update-rc.d or insserv. :) >

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-10 Thread Tom H
Both top- and bottom-posting. with apologies. Correction to the insserv mini-howto that I'd posted earlier. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/04/msg00728.html I emailed the insserv maintainer because, even though it works, I felt that it might not be a proper/acceptable way. He replied:

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-10 Thread Joel Roth
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 05:51:12AM -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Joel Roth wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 06:12:19PM -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Dan wrote: > >> > > >> > I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services.

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:25 AM, shawn wilson wrote: > On Apr 10, 2011 6:13 AM, "Tom H" wrote: >> >> I've suggested the use of update-rc.d and invoke-rc.d here and on >> ubuntu-users and been told that they're not meant for users/sysadmins. >> I hope that your link (thanks; I'll check it out late

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-10 Thread shawn wilson
On Apr 10, 2011 6:13 AM, "Tom H" wrote: > > > I've suggested the use of update-rc.d and invoke-rc.d here and on > ubuntu-users and been told that they're not meant for users/sysadmins. > I hope that your link (thanks; I'll check it out later today) explains > why, because I've never seen any bad e

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:48 AM, Thilo Six wrote: > John A. Sullivan III wrote the following on 10.04.2011 01:32 >> >> Once I took the time to learn how to use it, RedHat's chkconfig worked >> very well and it was simple to use (chkconfig on, chkconfig >> off, chkconfig --list , chkconfig --add

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Joel Roth wrote: > On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 06:12:19PM -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Dan wrote: >> > >> > I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I >> > thought that the standard way is just to delete the link o

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-10 Thread Thilo Six
John A. Sullivan III wrote the following on 10.04.2011 01:32 > On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 12:50 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 05:29:51PM -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: >>> On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 11:05 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 11:04:52AM -0400, Dan wro

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-10 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 06:12:19PM -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Dan wrote: > > > > I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I > > thought that the standard way is just to delete the link of the > > service from rc*.d > > > > For example to disab

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 7:32 PM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > Once I took the time to learn how to use it, RedHat's chkconfig worked > very well and it was simple to use (chkconfig on, chkconfig > off, chkconfig --list , chkconfig --add .  I > wonder if that's what insserv is trying to do.  I

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 12:50 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 05:29:51PM -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 11:05 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 11:04:52AM -0400, Dan wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I would like to know which is the standa

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 05:29:51PM -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 11:05 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 11:04:52AM -0400, Dan wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I > > > thought that the standard

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Dan wrote: > > I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I > thought that the standard way is just to delete the link of the > service from rc*.d > > For example to disable bluetooth I would just delete the link > /etc/rc3.d/S20bluetooth t

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread Freeman
On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 11:05:33AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 11:04:52AM -0400, Dan wrote: > > Hi, > > I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I > > thought that the standard way is just to delete the link of the > > service from rc*.d > > > > For

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 11:05 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 11:04:52AM -0400, Dan wrote: > > Hi, > > I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I > > thought that the standard way is just to delete the link of the > > service from rc*.d > > > > For exampl

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 11:04:52AM -0400, Dan wrote: > Hi, > I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I > thought that the standard way is just to delete the link of the > service from rc*.d > > For example to disable bluetooth I would just delete the link > /etc/rc3.d/S

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread Freeman
On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 01:27:18PM -0400, Dan wrote: > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Camaleón wrote: > > On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 11:04:52 -0400, Dan wrote: > > > >> I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I > >> thought that the standard way is just to delete the link of

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 13:27:18 -0400, Dan wrote: > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Camaleón wrote: (...) >>> But then I used service manager from gnome to disable bluetooth. It >>> disabled the service but it didn't delete the link. So I guess that >>> there is a standard procedure to disable the

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread Dan
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 11:04:52 -0400, Dan wrote: > >> I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I >> thought that the standard way is just to delete the link of the service >> from rc*.d > > I wondered the same in this thre

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 11:04:52 -0400, Dan wrote: > I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I > thought that the standard way is just to delete the link of the service > from rc*.d I wondered the same in this thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/12/msg00424.h

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 09 apr 11, 16:50:58, Michael Thompson wrote: > > And to disable the service in all the run levels, you execute the command: > > # update-rc.d -f apache2 remove > > Here -f option which stands for force is mandatory. This will have unwanted side-effects, see the paragraph I quoted in my

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 09 apr 11, 11:04:52, Dan wrote: > Hi, > I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I > thought that the standard way is just to delete the link of the > service from rc*.d > > For example to disable bluetooth I would just delete the link > /etc/rc3.d/S20bluetooth th

Re: Disable a service

2011-04-09 Thread Michael Thompson
On 9 April 2011 16:04, Dan wrote: > Hi, > I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I > thought that the standard way is just to delete the link of the > service from rc*.d > > For example to disable bluetooth I would just delete the link > /etc/rc3.d/S20bluetooth that po