Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 10:58:00PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 17 October 2015 19:38:02 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Or do as me and configure your procmail to discard duplicates. Works > > like a charm. > > No doubt due to my inability to configure KMail correctly it is a * > nuisa

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 06:12:53PM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Sat, October 17, 2015 4:58 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > And contrary to Debian Mailing List CoC ... > > Speaking of the Code of Conduct, a matter of much greater import is a > seve

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 10:58:00PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 17 October 2015 19:38:02 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Or do as me and configure your procmail to discard duplicates. Works > > like a charm. > > No doubt due to my inability to c

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-17 Thread rlharris
On Sat, October 17, 2015 4:58 pm, Lisi Reisz wrote: > And contrary to Debian Mailing List CoC ... Speaking of the Code of Conduct, a matter of much greater import is a severe constraint which is being forced upon e-mail users in general by the stupid and widespread practice of (1) associating an e

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 17 October 2015 19:38:02 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Or do as me and configure your procmail to discard duplicates. Works > like a charm. No doubt due to my inability to configure KMail correctly it is a * nuisance. It delivers the private one and discards the one to the list. Th

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-17 Thread Reco
On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 20:38:02 +0200 wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 06:51:22PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > PS. You should also consider to configure your e-mail client not to > > send CC on this list. > > Reco, > > before scolding someone on th

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-17 Thread Brian
On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 18:51:22 +0300, Reco wrote: > Inability to read OP's mail carefully and in detail did you a > disservice. You see, OP's problem was not about printer configuration. > It was about Debian's network configuration. It would be nice if the OP issued a disclaimer that Debian was

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-17 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 06:51:22PM +0300, Reco wrote: > PS. You should also consider to configure your e-mail client not to > send CC on this list. Reco, before scolding someone on this, consider setting the "Followup-To" or the "Mail-Followup-To" h

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-17 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 17 Oct 2015 11:09:11 -0400 "John D. Hendrickson" wrote: > Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 00:34:14 -0500 > > rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > > > >> Yesterday in the office of my associate, I tried without success to > >> install a HP LaserJet 2100TN in a wi

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting rlhar...@oplink.net (rlhar...@oplink.net): > On Fri, October 16, 2015 2:30 am, Joe wrote: > > Yes, that should work. I believe your initial difficulty was in setting > > the IP address on your computer to one in the same network as the original > > printer's address. > > That, and not unde

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-16 Thread Joe
On 16/10/2015 09:13, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: On Fri, October 16, 2015 2:30 am, Joe wrote: Probably the router can pick up the outside address by DHCP, but if not, you know what it is. If the router cannot pick up the outside address, I am in trouble. The day I was there, the address corr

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-16 Thread Brian
On Thu 15 Oct 2015 at 17:40:57 -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Thu, October 15, 2015 5:11 pm, Brian wrote: > > An ISP hands out an address in a private range and it is assigned to the > > external interface of a router? I do not understand this but know I have > > much to learn about networ

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-16 Thread rlharris
On Fri, October 16, 2015 2:30 am, Joe wrote: > Yes, that should work. I believe your initial difficulty was in setting > the IP address on your computer to one in the same network as the original > printer's address. That, and not understanding that the ip address reported by Windows was assigned

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-16 Thread Joe
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:11:45 +0100 Brian wrote: > > An ISP hands out an address in a private range and it is assigned to > the external interface of a router? I do not understand this but know > I have much to learn about networking. Any enlightenment in the > offing? > That's an easy one. An

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-16 Thread Joe
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:47:22 -0500 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Thu, October 15, 2015 5:27 pm, Felix Miata wrote: > > An internet router with wireless turned off and no connection to a > > WAN nevertheless remains a functional switch. Thus "unconnected" it > > should function no differently tha

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread David Wright
Quoting rlhar...@oplink.net (rlhar...@oplink.net): > On Thu, October 15, 2015 3:59 pm, David Wright wrote: > > Quoting rlhar...@oplink.net (rlhar...@oplink.net): > >> And it turns out (according to the ISP out there) that my associate is > >> receiving via a radio link a single address (192.168.100

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread rlharris
On Thu, October 15, 2015 5:11 pm, Brian wrote: > An ISP hands out an address in a private range and it is assigned to the > external interface of a router? I do not understand this but know I have > much to learn about networking. Any enlightenment in the offing? No; in the present (original) inst

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread rlharris
On Thu, October 15, 2015 5:27 pm, Felix Miata wrote: > An internet router with wireless turned off and no connection to a WAN > nevertheless remains a functional switch. Thus "unconnected" it should > function no differently than the ethernet switch mentioned in your OP. Perhaps I do not understan

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Felix Miata
rlhar...@oplink.net composed on 2015-10-15 17:06 (UTC-0500): > I have read numerous articles on security and I think that I understand > the issues. However, I need a solution, if possible, by tomorrow. The > WRT110 is here on my desk; it works and costs me nothing. An internet router with wire

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread rlharris
On Thu, October 15, 2015 4:03 pm, Joe wrote: > Pretty much any of the well-known names should be OK, ... Thanks, Joe. I am saving this email for the next time I need a router. Russ

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread rlharris
On Thu, October 15, 2015 3:59 pm, David Wright wrote: > Quoting rlhar...@oplink.net (rlhar...@oplink.net): >> And it turns out (according to the ISP out there) that my associate is >> receiving via a radio link a single address (192.168.100.3) from the >> DHCP server of the ISP. > If you really mea

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Brian
On Thu 15 Oct 2015 at 22:10:43 +0100, Joe wrote: > On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 21:58:21 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > > > If the printer is to communicate with the computer it needs to have an > > IP like 192.168.100.3.201. Change its IP with telnet. A moment's job. > > > > I assume that was a typo. I beli

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread rlharris
On Thu, October 15, 2015 4:24 pm, Reco wrote: >> Is this much of an issue, given that there is apparently nothing >> between Windows 8 and the outside world at the moment? A router more >> spyware-ridden than Windows? > But since OP has a freedom to choose, > why not choose a good thing instead of

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Brian
On Thu 15 Oct 2015 at 22:10:43 +0100, Joe wrote: > On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 21:58:21 +0100 > Brian wrote: > > > On Thu 15 Oct 2015 at 21:44:56 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > On Thursday 15 October 2015 21:38:16 Brian wrote: > > > > No you don't. You only have change the printers's setup to mat

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 15 October 2015 21:58:21 Brian wrote: > On Thu 15 Oct 2015 at 21:44:56 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 15 October 2015 21:38:16 Brian wrote: > > > No you don't. You only have change the printers's setup to match the > > > network it is on. You know how to do that with telnet. >

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:12:58 +0100 Joe wrote: > On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:57:13 +0300 > Reco wrote: > > > > Stay away from anything made by Cisco. Good models are expensive as > > (and require special training). Cheap > > models are spyware-ridden. > > Stay away from anything made

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Joe
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 21:58:21 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Thu 15 Oct 2015 at 21:44:56 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Thursday 15 October 2015 21:38:16 Brian wrote: > > > No you don't. You only have change the printers's setup to match > > > the network it is on. You know how to do that with teln

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Joe
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:57:13 +0300 Reco wrote: > Stay away from anything made by Cisco. Good models are expensive as > (and require special training). Cheap > models are spyware-ridden. > Stay away from anything made by D-Link. Those people are unable to > design anything remotely good even if

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Joe
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 15:01:01 -0500 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Thu, October 15, 2015 6:53 am, Reco wrote: > > Attach Ethernet cable to your laptop and printer via switch. > > > > Ensure that NetworkManager ignores your laptop's Ethernet interface > > (eth0 for simplicity). > > > > Run (as root

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread David Wright
Quoting rlhar...@oplink.net (rlhar...@oplink.net): > On Thu, October 15, 2015 6:53 am, Reco wrote: > > Attach Ethernet cable to your laptop and printer via switch. > > > > Ensure that NetworkManager ignores your laptop's Ethernet interface > > (eth0 for simplicity). > > > > Run (as root): > > > > i

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Brian
On Thu 15 Oct 2015 at 21:44:56 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 15 October 2015 21:38:16 Brian wrote: > > No you don't. You only have change the printers's setup to match the > > network it is on. You know how to do that with telnet. > > Brian - > > Could you give some hints as to how two

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 15:01:01 -0500 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Thu, October 15, 2015 6:53 am, Reco wrote: > > Attach Ethernet cable to your laptop and printer via switch. > > > > Ensure that NetworkManager ignores your laptop's Ethernet interface > > (eth0 for simplicity). > > > > Run (a

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 15 October 2015 21:38:16 Brian wrote: > No you don't. You only have change the printers's setup to match the > network it is on. You know how to do that with telnet. Brian - Could you give some hints as to how two separate devices can share one IP without some sort of routing? Lisi

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread rlharris
On Thu, October 15, 2015 3:01 pm, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > My only experience with routers has been with a PC running IPCop, but I > understand that there are small firmware-based routers, which I suppose > include a firewall and DHCP server. Have you any recommendations as to > brand and mode

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Reco
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 21:53:29 +0200 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Reco a écrit : > > > > You do not need to guess here. Run tcpdump at your laptop, power cycle > > the printer. As long as you see requests to 0.0.0.0 udp port 67 - the > > printer uses DHCP for configuration. > > /To/ 0.0.0.0 ? AFAIK,

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Brian
On Thu 15 Oct 2015 at 15:01:01 -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Thu, October 15, 2015 6:53 am, Reco wrote: > > Attach Ethernet cable to your laptop and printer via switch. > > > > Ensure that NetworkManager ignores your laptop's Ethernet interface > > (eth0 for simplicity). > > > > Run (as r

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread rlharris
On Thu, October 15, 2015 2:42 pm, Doug wrote: > It should be easy to change, following instructions that came > with the printer. But that is the essence of the problem! The instructions which came with the printer (which are buried in a HP2100TN user manual which I found on line) end with the in

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Reco a écrit : > > You do not need to guess here. Run tcpdump at your laptop, power cycle > the printer. As long as you see requests to 0.0.0.0 udp port 67 - the > printer uses DHCP for configuration. /To/ 0.0.0.0 ? AFAIK, 0.0.0.0 is not a valid destination address, and DHCP requests are sent to

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread rlharris
On Thu, October 15, 2015 6:53 am, Reco wrote: > Attach Ethernet cable to your laptop and printer via switch. > > Ensure that NetworkManager ignores your laptop's Ethernet interface > (eth0 for simplicity). > > Run (as root): > > ip l s dev eth0 up ip a a dev eth0 192.168.1.200/24 > > "ping 192.168.

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Doug
On 10/15/2015 07:53 AM, Reco wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 02:54:31AM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: On Thu, October 15, 2015 1:30 am, Reco wrote: Did this 'configuration report' mention the netmask used by printer? What about printer's MAC? Yes; the title is "JetDirect Configuration Pa

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread David Wright
Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): > On Thu 15 Oct 2015 at 14:53:16 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 02:54:31AM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > > > > > > I brought the printer (and the laptop) back here. I installed tcpdump. I > > > see no requests to 0.0.0.0 udp port 67.

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Brian
On Thu 15 Oct 2015 at 03:45:24 -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Thu, October 15, 2015 3:18 am, Joe wrote: > > > I'd expect one with an > > Ethernet port to run a simple web server for configuration. > > I have not yet found mention of one regarding the hp2100tn. nmap > > Best not go th

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Brian
On Thu 15 Oct 2015 at 14:53:16 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 02:54:31AM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > > > > I brought the printer (and the laptop) back here. I installed tcpdump. I > > see no requests to 0.0.0.0 udp port 67. > > So the printer uses statically assinged IP.

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Reco
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 02:54:31AM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Thu, October 15, 2015 1:30 am, Reco wrote: > > Did this 'configuration report' mention the netmask used by printer? > > What about printer's MAC? > > Yes; the title is "JetDirect Configuration Page", which provides the > fol

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread rlharris
On Thu, October 15, 2015 3:18 am, Joe wrote: > I think you just missed it, until Win7 there was a Telnet client. You > can install/enable one (genuine MS) on 8, I have done it but a while ago, > the details are out there somewhere. Installing anything on the other guy's machine is asking for troub

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Joe
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 00:34:14 -0500 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > Yesterday in the office of my associate, I tried without success to > install a HP LaserJet 2100TN in a wired local area network (LAN) > consisting of nothing but a i386 running Windows 8, a modem (which I > think also is router) and

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread rlharris
On Thu, October 15, 2015 2:33 am, Martin Smith wrote: > with most laser printers you can access their control interface with a > browser, just connect your laptop directly to it and point your browser at > the address the printer gives, this is assuming it does not have a front > panel you can acce

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread rlharris
On Thu, October 15, 2015 1:30 am, Reco wrote: > Did this 'configuration report' mention the netmask used by printer? > What about printer's MAC? Yes; the title is "JetDirect Configuration Page", which provides the following: IP ADDRESS: 192.168.1.210 SUBNET MASK: 255.255.255.0 DEF. GATEWAY: 192.1

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-15 Thread Martin Smith
On 15/10/2015 06:34, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: Yesterday in the office of my associate, I tried without success to install a HP LaserJet 2100TN in a wired local area network (LAN) consisting of nothing but a i386 running Windows 8, a modem (which I think also is router) and an ethernet switch.

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 00:34:14 -0500 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > Yesterday in the office of my associate, I tried without success to > install a HP LaserJet 2100TN in a wired local area network (LAN) > consisting of nothing but a i386 running Windows 8, a modem (which I think > also is

Re: Direct ethernet

2003-09-22 Thread Stefan Waidele jun.
Tommy McCabe wrote: I have a direct ethernet connection (no visible card, wire just plugs into computer) That is just like a 'card'. It is just built into your PC and you can not 'tear it out' like a regular card. But you access it like it was one. Even windows thinks it is a ehternet-card. If

Re: Direct ethernet

2003-09-20 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 07:14:58PM -0400, Tommy McCabe wrote: > I have a direct ethernet connection (no visible card, wire just plugs into > computer) that connects to a cable modem which is connected to the Internet > and another computer. The Internet works fine via Windows, but Debian won't

Re: Direct ethernet

2003-09-20 Thread Kent West
Tommy McCabe wrote: I have a direct ethernet connection (no visible card, wire just plugs into computer) that connects to a cable modem which is connected to the Internet and another computer. The Internet works fine via Windows, but Debian won't access anything. Everything points to an Ether