Re: Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread eben
On 11/11/24 07:39, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 03:26:26 +, brian mckee wrote: I have a work station. If I put debian on it. I want it to have 5 monsters. 5 key boards. 5 mice. So 5 people can long in. At same time. What Verizon should I download Autocorrect is a monitor.

Re: Debian versions

2024-11-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 03:26:26 +, brian mckee wrote: > I have a work station. > If I put debian on it. > I want it to have 5 monsters. > 5 key boards. > 5 mice. > So 5 people can long in. At same time. > What Verizon should I download Autocorrect is a monitor. I mean, monster. What you're

Re: Debian versions

2023-08-01 Thread Dominik George
Hi, > Outside Debian there are companies producing operating systems based on > Debian and providing commercial support for those operating systems, > probably the biggest example is Ubuntu provided by Canonical: > > https://ubuntu.com/ > https://canonical.com/ Yet, if at all possible, you should

Re: Debian versions

2023-08-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, 2023-08-01 at 13:50 -0600, Alan Serrano Peña wrote: > Is there a commercial version of Debian? > Any version with technical support? The Debian project provides the Debian operating system for free and provides technical support for free by volunteers. In addition, there are a number of

Re: Debian versions

2023-08-01 Thread Danial Behzadi
Good afternoon, I have a question about Debian versions. Is there a commercial version of Debian? Any version with technical support? No, Debian is a free software, but you can get commercial support from third-parties. I was reading on the website that there is a version called Debian LTS,

Re: Debian versions

2023-08-01 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 4:15 PM Alan Serrano Peña wrote: > Good afternoon, I have a question about Debian versions. Is there a > commercial version of Debian? Any version with technical support? I was > reading on the website that there is a version called Debian LTS, > specifically Debian 10 "Bus

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-05-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 04:06:30PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > * Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:03:18:20:05:40-0800] scribed: > >> Your best bet if you don't want to reinstall is watch closely after > >> sarge goes stable for a new unstable

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-05-20 Thread Paul Johnson
Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:03:18:20:05:40-0800] scribed: > > >> Not particularly. I've never downgraded libc successfully on a >> machine across major version changes without having to reinstall. >> Your best bet if you don't want to

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-05-20 Thread Michael D Schleif
* Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:03:18:22:58:47-0800] scribed: > My opinion is that testing should not be publicly available until it is > in the "release candidate" or "beta" stage, or whatever you want to call > it. Up until that point, it should be a virtual distribution only > existi

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-05-20 Thread Michael D Schleif
* Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:03:18:20:05:40-0800] scribed: > Not particularly. I've never downgraded libc successfully on a > machine across major version changes without having to reinstall. > Your best bet if you don't want to reinstall is watch closely after > sarge goes stable fo

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-05-20 Thread Kenneth Jacker
>> If I understand this correctly, users of 'testing' (currently >> 'sarge') can do *nothing* when new security problems arise? They >> must wait for the fix in 'unstable' to make it into testing. pj> You knew going in that the only "safe" path is stable, you were pj> warned! Certainly

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-05-19 Thread Paul Johnson
Kenneth Jacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > myh> On 2004-03-19, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > myh> > myh> Also, look at security updates. Updates are provided for > myh> stable and unstable almost immediately. Then those using > myh> testing distributions must wait the allotted amo

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-05-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 09:32:59AM -0400, Kenneth Jacker wrote: > myh> On 2004-03-19, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > myh> Also, look at security updates. Updates are provided for > myh> stable and unstable almost immediately. Then those using > myh> testing distributions must wait the a

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-05-19 Thread Kenneth Jacker
myh> On 2004-03-19, Monique Y. Herman wrote: myh> myh> Also, look at security updates. Updates are provided for myh> stable and unstable almost immediately. Then those using myh> testing distributions must wait the allotted amount of time myh> before receiving the unstable upd

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-20 Thread Michael Satterwhite
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 19 March 2004 18:17, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > I wasn't claiming that unstable is a better choice than stable for, er, > stability; I was claiming it was a better choice than testing. I understood you, but I asked the original question. I

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-19 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-03-19, Travis Crump penned: > > Unstable, on the other hand, breaks much more spectacularly on package > installation with no warning other than people moaning on the > lists/IRC/BTS. I don't want to imply that this is a frequent > occurence, but it does happen... I've only been bitten in

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-19 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-03-19, Paul Johnson penned: > > "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] >> Unstable is where bug fixes, new packages, etc are first introduced >> into a debian distribution. (There's also something called >> "experimental," but that's not a proper distribution.) > > The im

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-19 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello Kevin! On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 07:44:46AM -0500, Kevin Coyner wrote: > Presently these two lines accomplish the same thing: > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib > > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib > > Once Sarge releases

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-19 Thread Kevin Coyner
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 03:31:38PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote.. > However, testing tends to be more broken than unstable. Testing works > well right now since we're near a release and almost everything in > there is in a releasable state, but after sarge releases, watch out. Presently thes

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Brian Nelson
Travis Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:35, Paul Johnson wrote: >> "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > I'm not sure that "less stable" is the right term, but "less usable" >> > almost certainly is. >> >> backports.org is your friend. > > Here's a

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Brian Nelson
"Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Say you have package A that makes it past unstable and into testing. > Then someone finds a bug in package A. It turns out to be an icky bug, > and it takes quite a while to fix it. The bug will be fixed in unstable > before trickling down into t

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Travis Crump
Michael Satterwhite wrote: On Thursday 18 March 2004 17:31, Brian Nelson wrote: However, testing tends to be more broken than unstable. Testing works well right now since we're near a release and almost everything in there is in a releasable state, but after sarge releases, watch out. I'm sure

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Travis Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:35, Paul Johnson wrote: >> "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > I'm not sure that "less stable" is the right term, but "less usable" >> > almost certainly is. >>

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Travis Casey
On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:35, Paul Johnson wrote: > "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm not sure that "less stable" is the right term, but "less usable" > > almost certainly is. > > backports.org is your friend. Here's a question for the more experienced folks: is "downgra

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 2004-03-19, Michael Satterwhite penned: >> >> On Thursday 18 March 2004 17:31, Brian Nelson wrote: >>> >>> However, testing tends to be more broken than unstable. Testing >>> works well right now s

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Michael Satterwhite
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 18 March 2004 18:35, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > Say you have package A that makes it past unstable and into testing. > Then someone finds a bug in package A. It turns out to be an icky bug, > and it takes quite a while to fix it. The bug

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-03-19, Michael Satterwhite penned: > > On Thursday 18 March 2004 17:31, Brian Nelson wrote: >> >> However, testing tends to be more broken than unstable. Testing >> works well right now since we're near a release and almost everything >> in there is in a releasable state, but after sarge r

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Michael Satterwhite
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 18 March 2004 17:31, Brian Nelson wrote: > Michael Satterwhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Thursday 18 March 2004 14:28, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > >> What sorts of testing would you want to do on your testing machine? The > >> test

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Brian Nelson
Michael Satterwhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thursday 18 March 2004 14:28, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> What sorts of testing would you want to do on your testing machine? The >> testing distro is a little odd in that it's really intended for >> developers, not users. It's "the stuff they

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Michael Satterwhite
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 18 March 2004 17:03, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > I do development on the machine running Sarge. The package list in the > > stable list gets a bit dated for me. They, however, are perfect for > > the machine that *HAS* to be up and stable.

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-03-18, Michael Satterwhite penned: > > On Thursday 18 March 2004 14:28, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> What sorts of testing would you want to do on your testing machine? >> The testing distro is a little odd in that it's really intended for >> developers, not users. It's "the stuff they're w

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Michael Satterwhite
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 18 March 2004 14:28, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > What sorts of testing would you want to do on your testing machine? The > testing distro is a little odd in that it's really intended for > developers, not users. It's "the stuff they're wor

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Paul Johnson
"Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Sometime after that, I'll want to upgrade from Woody to Sarge on my >> base machine; a few months after that, I'll consider moving my test >> machine to Sid. > > I'm no expert, but I think this is not quite right. > > At the moment, Woody = stable

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-03-18, Michael Satterwhite penned: > > I've been Distro hopping for the last few weeks and am very impressed > with the Debian system. It's probably going to become the distro on > all my machines very shortly. > > I'm going to be running Woody on one machine and Sarge on another for > test

Re: Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Paul Johnson
Michael Satterwhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What is the procedure for this type of an upgrade? IOW, what > commands would be given to apt to move the machine to the next > version? Had you searched the archives, you would not have had to wait for me to tell you to update your sources.list t

Question re Debian versions

2004-03-18 Thread Michael Satterwhite
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been Distro hopping for the last few weeks and am very impressed with the Debian system. It's probably going to become the distro on all my machines very shortly. I'm going to be running Woody on one machine and Sarge on another for testing pu