Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Rob Owens wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 07:43:43AM +0100, Lisi wrote: >> On Saturday 11 June 2011 00:41:10 Rob Owens wrote: >> > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> > > packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line en

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 12/06/11 06:25, Paul E Condon wrote: >> >> This forces me to ask yet another clueless question: When I install a >> documentation package, like this one, where are the documentation >> files placed? There is an entry corresponding to the

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get [solved]

2011-06-11 Thread Paul E Condon
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Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 12/06/11 07:10, Wolodja Wentland wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 07:00 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> To see what was delivered:- >> cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.list | less > > Much easier to just use (IMHO): > > dpkg -L PKG_NAME > > or (if installed): > > dlocate -L PKG_NAM

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Wayne Topa
On 06/11/2011 04:25 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20110611_193705, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 11 iun 11, 10:05:16, Paul E Condon wrote: OT: while checking my memory on this, I noticed a plaintive question from 2007 about the "Aptitude Reference Manual" which seemed to be mentioned in Debian do

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 07:00 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > To see what was delivered:- > cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.list | less Much easier to just use (IMHO): dpkg -L PKG_NAME or (if installed): dlocate -L PKG_NAME -- .''`. Wolodja Wentland : :' : `. `'` 409

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 12/06/11 06:25, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20110611_193705, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Sb, 11 iun 11, 10:05:16, Paul E Condon wrote: >>> >>> OT: while checking my memory on this, I noticed a plaintive question >>> from 2007 about the "Aptitude Reference Manual" which seemed to be >>> mentioned i

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110611_193705, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 11 iun 11, 10:05:16, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > OT: while checking my memory on this, I noticed a plaintive question > > from 2007 about the "Aptitude Reference Manual" which seemed to be > > mentioned in Debian documentation but seemed not to e

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 11 iun 11, 10:05:16, Paul E Condon wrote: > > OT: while checking my memory on this, I noticed a plaintive question > from 2007 about the "Aptitude Reference Manual" which seemed to be > mentioned in Debian documentation but seemed not to exist. My quick > search indicates that this situatio

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:05:16AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20110611_074343, Lisi wrote: > > On Saturday 11 June 2011 00:41:10 Rob Owens wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line entry for

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 07:43:43AM +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Saturday 11 June 2011 00:41:10 Rob Owens wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line entry for apt > > > to list all the available packages for

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110611_074343, Lisi wrote: > On Saturday 11 June 2011 00:41:10 Rob Owens wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line entry for apt > > > to list all the available packages for a system, rather than

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 11 June 2011 00:41:10 Rob Owens wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line entry for apt > > to list all the available packages for a system, rather than directly > > parsing /var/lib/dpkg/avail

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line entry for apt > to list all the available packages for a system, rather than directly > parsing /var/lib/dpkg/available, but this is not it. > Does this do what you want? a

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 11/06/11 04:44, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 10 iun 11, 23:55:58, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> Asking me about the merits of aptitude is liking asking a emac fanboi >> about the merits of vi :-) > > I don't think this is a fair comparison, but rather vi vs. vim ;) It wasn't meant to be :-) I

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 10 iun 11, 23:55:58, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > Asking me about the merits of aptitude is liking asking a emac fanboi > about the merits of vi :-) I don't think this is a fair comparison, but rather vi vs. vim ;) aptitude can do almost everything apt-get/apt-cache can do, but: + has very

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/06/11 22:21, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal > wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: >>> To find a package I also frequently do something like this: >>> >>> yum list available |grep abr_package_name >> >> This is either "

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 08:21 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal >> wrote: >> > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: >> >> I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no e

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 08:21 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal > wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: > >> I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. > >> Giving Debian a whirl now. > >> > > [cut] > >> >

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: >> I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. >> Giving Debian a whirl now. >> > [cut] >> >> yum update > > This becomes "apt-get update" in debian. No. It's not. This

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-09 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 10:08:45PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Just out of curiosity: is there an equivalent for 'apt-get update' > (checking for updates without actually installing them)? "apt-get update" doesn't check for updates without actually installing them: it updates the local cache o

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 22:08 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 06 iun 11, 14:39:40, Matt wrote: > > > > I gather in the apt-get world the equivalent is: > > > > apt-get update > > apt-get upgrade > > > > I think anyway? Being used to yum I like there way better. ;-) > > Just out of curiosit

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 06 iun 11, 14:39:40, Matt wrote: > > I gather in the apt-get world the equivalent is: > > apt-get update > apt-get upgrade > > I think anyway? Being used to yum I like there way better. ;-) Just out of curiosity: is there an equivalent for 'apt-get update' (checking for updates without

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get - erratum

2011-06-06 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Lisi wrote: > On Monday 06 June 2011 21:25:52 Tom H wrote: >> >> You mean "apt-get dist-upgrade" ("aptitude full-upgrade" is the >> aptitude equivalent). > > Thanks - I am much more familiar with aptitude. You're welcome. I use apt-get but the aptitude options make

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 14:39 -0500, Matt wrote: > > remains that yum update installs things and apt-get update simply updates > > the > > database. This caused me considerable confusion. I suggest that you check > > this before telling me that I am incorrect in believing it. > > Doing: > > yum

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get - erratum

2011-06-06 Thread Lisi
On Monday 06 June 2011 21:25:52 Tom H wrote: > You mean "apt-get dist-upgrade" ("aptitude full-upgrade" is the > aptitude equivalent). Thanks - I am much more familiar with aptitude. Because aptitude has "switched" (by recommendation, not by formal instructions) from aptitude dist-upgrade to ap

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get - erratum

2011-06-06 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Lisi wrote: > On Monday 06 June 2011 20:14:34 Lisi wrote: >> >> The fact that you are unfamiliar with apt-get update > > should, of course, be apt-get full-upgrade. You mean "apt-get dist-upgrade" ("aptitude full-upgrade" is the aptitude equivalent). -- To UNSUB

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: >> >> I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. >> Giving Debian a whirl now. >> >> yum update > > This becomes "apt-get update" in debian. No. "apt-get update; apt-g

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Lisi
On Monday 06 June 2011 20:39:40 Matt wrote: > I gather in the apt-get world the equivalent is: > > apt-get update > apt-get upgrade Yes - but certainly in aptitude (I am more familiar with aptitude than with apt) it is now recommended to use either aptitude safe-upgrade or aptitude full-upgrade

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Matt
> remains that yum update installs things and apt-get update simply updates the > database.  This caused me considerable confusion.  I suggest that you check > this before telling me that I am incorrect in believing it. Doing: yum update Causes yum to check all installed packages including kerne

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get - erratum

2011-06-06 Thread Lisi
On Monday 06 June 2011 20:14:34 Lisi wrote: > The fact that you are unfamiliar with apt-get update should, of course, be apt-get full-upgrade. Sorry :-( I'm a lousy typist and teh keyboard seems to affect my brain. Lisi > is not strictly > relevant here, though if someone who is familiar wit

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Lisi
On Monday 06 June 2011 19:27:24 William Hopkins wrote: > On 06/06/11 at 06:52pm, Lisi wrote: > > On Monday 06 June 2011 17:03:36 Matt wrote: > > > I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. > > > Giving Debian a whirl now. > > > > Having made a desultary attempt in teh other di

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/06/11 at 06:52pm, Lisi wrote: > On Monday 06 June 2011 17:03:36 Matt wrote: > > I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. > > Giving Debian a whirl now. > > Having made a desultary attempt in teh other direction, I feel your pain. :-( > > [snip] > > In Centos when I wa

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Lisi
On Monday 06 June 2011 17:03:36 Matt wrote: > I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. > Giving Debian a whirl now. Having made a desultary attempt in teh other direction, I feel your pain. :-( [snip] > In Centos when I want to update or add a package I do this: > > yum upd

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:03:36 -0500, Matt wrote: > I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. Giving > Debian a whirl now. (...) > Now on Centos when I do 'yum update' after a fresh install I usually get > offered a good number of patches etc. When I do 'apt-get update' I se

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Tom Grace
On 06/06/2011 05:15 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: >> Now on Centos when I do 'yum update' after a fresh install I usually >> get offered a good number of patches etc. When I do 'apt-get update' >> I seem to get nothing. > > Is your sources.list no

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: > I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. > Giving Debian a whirl now. > [cut] > > yum update This becomes "apt-get update" in debian. > > or: > > yum install package_name apt-get install package_name > > To find

RE: Debian questions

2002-12-31 Thread Reaz Baksh
I’d like to thank all those who helped out, Nate, Moops and Rob Weir, with the two questions I posted below.   I was able to get the SMP kernel 2.4.20 compiled and working after two days of trying.  The NIC problem has reached a new level where I can see the card after ‘ifconfig –a’.  I now

Re: Debian questions

2002-12-28 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 12:25:13AM -0500, Reaz Baksh wrote: > Hello > > Can someone please help me with these questions? > > > > -I have Debian 3.0 running on a dual PIII Compaq. Does Debian recognize > and utilize both CPUs? Is there a way I can check that Debian does use > the two chips?

Re: Debian questions

2002-12-28 Thread nate
Reaz Baksh said: > Hello > > Can someone please help me with these questions? > > > > -I have Debian 3.0 running on a dual PIII Compaq. Does Debian recognize > and utilize both CPUs? Is there a way I can check that Debian does use > the two chips? look in the bootup log(hold shift key and press

Re: Debian Questions

1998-10-29 Thread wtopa
Subject: Re: Debian Questions Date: Thu, Oct 29, 1998 at 08:04:37PM +0200 In reply to:Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho Quoting Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > On Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 09:24:44PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject an

Re: Debian Questions

1998-10-29 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 09:24:44PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject and it doesn't work, because qmail-inject > is in /usr/sbin and there are no link from the qmail/bin dir. Very > confusing. Do you know what was confusing to me when I first tried qmail?

Re: Debian Questions

1998-10-29 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 03:58:33PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What if there wasn't a deb source package. Is there a way to force an > install and ignore the dependices? Yes. In fact, I've used qmail before there was a .deb - the solution then was to use the equivs package. It's ugly but

Re: Debian Questions

1998-10-29 Thread wtopa
Subject: Re: Debian Questions Date: Thu, Oct 29, 1998 at 09:16:31AM +0100 In reply to:Martin Bialasinski Quoting Martin Bialasinski([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > >> "w" == wtopa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > w> policy manual. Ok, I ju

Re: Debian Questions

1998-10-29 Thread wtopa
Subject: Re: Debian Questions Date: Thu, Oct 29, 1998 at 06:40:16PM +1100 In reply to:Hamish Moffatt Quoting Hamish Moffatt([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > On Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 09:24:44PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The stock qmail program itself only goes int

Re: Debian Questions

1998-10-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, M.C. Vernon wrote: : : > 2. As I have decided to use qmail as my MTA, I am having problems : > installing, from slink or stable, any MUA's or procmail. I had a : > problem with the slink version of mutt so compiled and installed my : > own. Now I want to instal procmai

Re: Debian Questions

1998-10-29 Thread Martin Bialasinski
>> "w" == wtopa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: w> policy manual. Ok, I just looked and yes, I do have file-rc w> installed!(?) How I don't know but its here. Now I have some more If you want the symlink scheme back, then just deinstall file-rc. Better check that the symlinks are there before yo

Re: Debian Questions

1998-10-29 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 09:24:44PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The stock qmail program itself only goes into /var/qmail, which is how > I prefer it. If we installed every upstream program where the stock installation goes, it would be an extremely difficult system to use and administer.

Re: Debian Questions

1998-10-29 Thread wtopa
Subject: Re: Debian Questions Date: Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 10:50:51PM + In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > 2. As I have decided to use qmail as my MTA, I am having problems > > installing, from slink or st

Re: Debian Questions

1998-10-29 Thread wtopa
Subject: Re: Debian Questions Date: Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 10:43:14PM +0200 In reply to:Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho Quoting Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > On Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 03:30:28PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > because it needs an MTA and

Re: Debian Questions

1998-10-29 Thread wtopa
Subject: Re: Debian Questions Date: Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 11:06:21PM +0100 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > >> "w" == wtopa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > w> 1. The debian policy ma

Re: Debian Questions

1998-10-29 Thread wtopa
Subject: Re: Debian Questions Date: Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 10:43:14PM +0200 In reply to:Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho Quoting Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > On Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 03:30:28PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > because it needs an MTA and

Re: Debian Questions

1998-10-28 Thread M.C. Vernon
> 2. As I have decided to use qmail as my MTA, I am having problems > installing, from slink or stable, any MUA's or procmail. I had a > problem with the slink version of mutt so compiled and installed my > own. Now I want to instal procmail but, of course, it won't install > because it needs an

Re: Debian Questions

1998-10-28 Thread Martin Bialasinski
>> "w" == wtopa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: w> 1. The debian policy manual Section 3.4 System Run Levels talks about w> symbolic links in the /etc/rcn.d directories. All of my rc[0-S].d w> directories are empty. Upateprc.d man page says updates those same w> directories. It doesn't do that on

Re: Debian Questions

1998-10-28 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Wed, Oct 28, 1998 at 03:30:28PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > because it needs an MTA and doesn't know about qmail. Use the qmail-src package available at a mirror of the non-free section near you. Antti-Juhani -- Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho A7 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ** http://www.iki.f

Re: Debian Questions - Newbie-ish

1998-09-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Mason Loring Bliss wrote: : On Mon, Sep 14, 1998 at 04:36:13PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: : : > : 1) Once I've got everything installed in a basic way, how do I build and : > : install the world myself? In NetBSD, it's as easy as "cd /usr/src ; make : > : build". W

Re: Debian Questions - Newbie-ish

1998-09-14 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
>> Um... Okay. I guess what I'm looking for is more of a "core system" sort > of answer. Id est, I'm wondering how I go about configuring a kernel and > building userland. Or, is it the case that in Debian *everything* is a > package? That's sort of an intriguing possibility. > Is kernel configur

Re: Debian Questions - Newbie-ish

1998-09-14 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
>Hmm. I think bootpart from BSD will do this, and I'm pretty sure LILO >will. I've used LILO to dual boot Windows and Linux, and bootpart to >dual boot DOS and BSD. I never have done exactly what you want to do yes, LILO will do this. My /etc/lilo.conf file boots both, and will supposedly boo

Re: Debian Questions - Newbie-ish

1998-09-14 Thread john
Mason Loring Bliss writes: > 3) Is there an equivalent to the NetBSD practise of a nightly sup of > current sources? Look at apt, in unstable. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: Debian Questions - Newbie-ish

1998-09-14 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Mon, Sep 14, 1998 at 04:36:13PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: > : 1) Once I've got everything installed in a basic way, how do I build and > : install the world myself? In NetBSD, it's as easy as "cd /usr/src ; make > : build". What's the Debian equivalent? > > There isn't one - most Debian

Re: Debian Questions - Newbie-ish

1998-09-14 Thread John Larkin
Mason Loring Bliss wrote > My questions: > > 1) Once I've got everything installed in a basic way, how do I build and > install the world myself? In NetBSD, it's as easy as "cd /usr/src ; make > build". What's the Debian equivalent? Well, the packages are distributed in binary format (hence the m

Re: Debian Questions - Newbie-ish

1998-09-14 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, Mason Loring Bliss wrote: : What I'd really like is a "Debian for NetBSD People" guide, but, failing : that, maybe a couple kind souls out there can answer some questions I've : got. : : Note: I'm not running Debian yet - I'm running NetBSD-current - but I : think I'm g