Re: Re: Debian native java

2004-12-19 Thread Etienne Gagnon
Hi Tong, I agree with the suggestions others have made (mainly, use blackdown if you want the most "sun-like" thing). Yet, I would like to inform you that Free Java virtual machines are making big progress. The latest development version of SableVM (soon to be uploaded into "sid") is able to r

Re: Debian native java

2004-12-18 Thread Rick Taylor
On Saturday 18 December 2004 01:00 pm, Rick Taylor wrote: > On Saturday 18 December 2004 05:58 pm, Sam Watkins wrote: > > } I want to use Java. Nowadays, many utilities are released in Java. Big > } monsters that comes to my mind are, eclips, jbuilder, together, IBM db2 > } control center, etc. Wha

Re: Debian native java

2004-12-18 Thread Rick Taylor
On Saturday 18 December 2004 05:58 pm, Sam Watkins wrote: } I want to use Java. Nowadays, many utilities are released in Java. Big } monsters that comes to my mind are, eclips, jbuilder, together, IBM db2 } control center, etc. What would be the best/safest java sdk package to use } for such case

Re: Debian native java

2004-12-18 Thread Tong
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 10:58:16 +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: > [...] If have ethical objections to non-free software, or you want > to support the development of free-software java systems, install > free-java-sdk. [...] Come on, Sam. relax. I don't have any bias and I don't want to offend anybody.

Re: Debian native java

2004-12-18 Thread Sam Watkins
On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 05:10:22PM -0500, Tong wrote: > Thanks for the input. Yeah, I meant to try the 'free-java-sdk' since it is > default in Debian Testing. But looking up Debian Java faq, I noticed that > things are more complicated than that. More sdk/jvm are available, and I > can't tell whic

Re: Debian native java

2004-12-18 Thread Tong
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:25:23 -0200, Rogério Brito wrote: >> Is Debian native java OK? I mean has anybody install it? > > You can install the package free-java-sdk and it will give you an > environment that is reasonably good for simple programs. The JVM that will > be installed this way is sablev

Re: Debian native java

2004-12-18 Thread Rogério Brito
On Dec 18 2004, Tong wrote: > Is Debian native java OK? I mean has anybody install it? You can install the package free-java-sdk and it will give you an environment that is reasonably good for simple programs. The JVM that will be installed this way is sablevm. You may also want to try using kaffe

Re: Debian native java

2004-12-18 Thread Tong
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 16:03:02 -0500, Tong wrote: > On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:33:05 +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: > >> On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 02:41:04PM -0500, Tong wrote: >>> Is Debian native java OK? >> >> What package/s are you talking about? >> >> I am using blackdown j2re1.4, it works. > > Oh, ye

Re: Debian native java

2004-12-18 Thread Sam Watkins
On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 04:03:02PM -0500, Tong wrote: > > I understand the free software java systems don't work 100% yet. > > So I read. That's why I'm scared and asked before trying. Seeing that you > are using it really gives me the confident to give it a try. No, the blackdown j2re1.4 works

Re: Debian native java

2004-12-18 Thread Tong
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 07:33:05 +1100, Sam Watkins wrote: > On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 02:41:04PM -0500, Tong wrote: >> Is Debian native java OK? > > What package/s are you talking about? > > I am using blackdown j2re1.4, it works. Oh, yeah, that's the one I was talking about. > I understand the fr

Re: Debian native java

2004-12-18 Thread Sam Watkins
On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 02:41:04PM -0500, Tong wrote: > Is Debian native java OK? What package/s are you talking about? I am using blackdown j2re1.4, it works. I understand the free software java systems don't work 100% yet. This is the Debian Java FAQ: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debi