Re: debian-users archive broken?

2017-08-16 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Brian wrote: > On Wed 16 Aug 2017 at 13:27:30 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > FYI just noticed that the debian-user archives have not been updated > since > > 10 August. > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/08/thrd2.html > > gives me the mail you ha

Re: debian-users archive broken?

2017-08-16 Thread Brian
On Wed 16 Aug 2017 at 13:27:30 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > FYI just noticed that the debian-user archives have not been updated since > 10 August. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/08/thrd2.html gives me the mail you have posted. You will have to be more specific. How did you acces

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140120_105413, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 1/20/14, Brian wrote: > > On Sat 18 Jan 2014 at 09:31:21 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > > > >> If this garbage OT crap ('sad but true Linux sucks', and 'Hey Humans > > > It is not frequent but it does occur. > > > It happens; you live through it. You do

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/20/14, Brian wrote: > On Sat 18 Jan 2014 at 09:31:21 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> If this garbage OT crap ('sad but true Linux sucks', and 'Hey Humans > It is not frequent but it does occur. > It happens; you live through it. You don't need a moderator as a crutch. > Build your kill file i

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-19 Thread Brian
On Sat 18 Jan 2014 at 09:31:21 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > If this garbage OT crap ('sad but true Linux sucks', and 'Hey Humans > I'm a machine') is typical of this list, is there a debian related > list that doesn't allow such crap to go on and on and on and on and > on and on ad nauseum? It is no

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-19 Thread John Hasler
Tanstaafl writes: > Which means you easily miss valuable information provided by the same > people who consistently engage in ridiculous OT nonsense. A decent MUA allows you to killfile (score down, actually) subjects, threads, or keywords. It also lets you score up (or down) selected authors. T

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-19 9:17 AM, John Hasler wrote: Tanstaafl writes: Obviously it is the enforcement that is key. Killfiles are the key. Use a modern MUA and you can easily arrange not to see anything you wish to avoid. Which means you easily miss valuable information provided by the same people

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-19 Thread John Hasler
Tanstaafl writes: > Obviously it is the enforcement that is key. Killfiles are the key. Use a modern MUA and you can easily arrange not to see anything you wish to avoid. > If the debian-users list had moderators that actually cared, This list has no moderators. Period. Nor does it need any.

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-18 8:53 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Imagine again if every one of those people could speak without any limitation. Or rather the only limitation is each person's own discipline. That is basically what we have here. A small number of participants without discipline. And therein lies the

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-19 Thread Florent Peterschmitt
Le 19/01/2014 06:43, Артур Истомин a écrit : > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:31:21AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> If this garbage OT crap ('sad but true Linux sucks', and 'Hey Humans >> I'm a machine') is typical of this list, is there a debian related >> list that doesn't allow such crap

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-18 Thread Артур Истомин
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:31:21AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hi all, > > If this garbage OT crap ('sad but true Linux sucks', and 'Hey Humans > I'm a machine') is typical of this list, is there a debian related > list that doesn't allow such crap to go on and on and on and on and > on and on ad na

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-18 Thread Bob Bernstein
Dear Sir, I would like to protest in the strongest possible terms your representation of officers of the British Army. It is simply shameful. And also the traffic on this email list. Can't something be done about it? Think about the children! ...oh...sorry...this isn't Monty Python, is it?

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Tanstaafl wrote: > If this garbage OT crap ('sad but true Linux sucks', and 'Hey Humans > I'm a machine') is typical of this list, It varies from season to season. Although often it feels like the September That Never Ended. There are more than 2,000 plus subscribers to debian-user. Imagine if

Re: [debian-users] wintv-hvr 850 (hybrid) not detecting any signal.

2011-10-08 Thread Javier Vasquez
So, no one with experience on debian with this usb device? :-( Javier. On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Javier Vasquez wrote: > Hi, > > I sent this to another list, but apparently no one knows, or cares to > answer... > > Bad thing I'm not using debian in the x86-64 and x86-32 machines I'm > t

Re: [debian-users] wintv-hvr 850 (hybrid) not detecting any signal.

2011-10-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 20:24:18 -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: > I sent this to another list, but apparently no one knows, or cares to > answer... > > Bad thing I'm not using debian in the x86-64 and x86-32 machines I'm > trying. I do use debian on other mips mini-pcs though... (...) In case you di

Re: [debian-users] Integration of development tools

2010-01-04 Thread Ted Hilts
Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 10:38:23PM -0700, Ted Hilts wrote: I am looking for some advice regarding integration of tools for development purposes. I have obtained the following over the internet.: 1. All debian binary and source DVD ISOs (for the present stable vers

Re: [debian-users] Integration of development tools

2010-01-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 10:38:23PM -0700, Ted Hilts wrote: > I am looking for some advice regarding integration of tools for > development purposes. I have obtained the following over the internet.: > > 1. All debian binary and source DVD ISOs (for the present stable > version) as the bas

Re: [debian-users] Integration of development tools

2010-01-02 Thread godo
Ted Hilts wrote: I am looking for some advice regarding integration of tools for development purposes. I have obtained the following over the internet.: 1. All debian binary and source DVD ISOs (for the present stable version) as the basis of a repository for binary and source code. I blasted th

Re: [debian-users] minicom or ISP? - No urgency - answer if you have time.

2007-11-27 Thread W Paul Mills
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct. wrote: > When dialing up my ISP in an interactive mode providing user name and > password I get a third prompt with the prompt message "AiiNET". So now > I get 3 prompts: "user name", "password", and "AiiNET" where before

Re: [debian-users] minicom or ISP? - No urgency - answer if you have time.

2007-11-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-11-16 23:04:06, schrieb Ted Hilts: > BTW: Isn't it some form of discrimination to provide ISP services and > support for Windoz and Mac while turning a blind eye to Linux??? Definitivly > That's how my ISP behaves. I think that in Europe it is apparently law > for computer manufa

Re: [debian-users] minicom or ISP? - No urgency - answer if you have time.

2007-11-17 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 05:40:34PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 03:08:11PM -0700, Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct. wrote: > > When dialing up my ISP in an interactive mode providing user name and > > password I get a third prompt with the prompt message "AiiNET". So now

Re: [debian-users] minicom or ISP? - No urgency - answer if you have time.

2007-11-16 Thread Ted Hilts
Hal Vaughan wrote: On Saturday 17 November 2007, Ted Hilts wrote: ... What I was trying to say is that I am not sure where the "AiiNET" prompt is coming from. Is it coming from the ISP or is it being manufactured by Minicom as some respone. I think the "AiiNET" prompt is coming from the ISP

Re: [debian-users] minicom or ISP? - No urgency - answer if you have time.

2007-11-16 Thread Ted Hilts
John Hasler wrote: Thunderbird Acct. wrote: When dialing up my ISP in an interactive mode providing user name and password I get a third prompt with the prompt message "AiiNET". Some ISPs respond with a username/password prompt when you use an interactive program but expect PAP autheni

Re: [debian-users] minicom or ISP? - No urgency - answer if you have time.

2007-11-16 Thread Ted Hilts
Hal Vaughan wrote: On Friday 16 November 2007, Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct. wrote: This question is informational and there is no urgency. I'm not going to cover what has the first response has said, but I have a bit I can add: When dialing up my ISP in an interactive mode prov

Re: [debian-users] minicom or ISP? - No urgency - answer if you have time.

2007-11-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 17 November 2007, Ted Hilts wrote: ... > What I was trying to say is that I am not sure where the "AiiNET" > prompt is coming from. Is it coming from the ISP or is it being > manufactured by Minicom as some respone. I think the "AiiNET" prompt > is coming from the ISP just as the "use

Re: [debian-users] minicom or ISP? - No urgency - answer if you have time.

2007-11-16 Thread Ted Hilts
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 03:08:11PM -0700, Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct. wrote: When dialing up my ISP in an interactive mode providing user name and password I get a third prompt with the prompt message "AiiNET". So now I get 3 prompts: "user name", "password", and "

Re: [debian-users] minicom or ISP? - No urgency - answer if you have time.

2007-11-16 Thread John Hasler
Thunderbird Acct. wrote: > When dialing up my ISP in an interactive mode providing user name and > password I get a third prompt with the prompt message "AiiNET". Some ISPs respond with a username/password prompt when you use an interactive program but expect PAP authenication when they see a PPP

Re: [debian-users] minicom or ISP? - No urgency - answer if you have time.

2007-11-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 06:14:13PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Friday 16 November 2007, Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct. wrote: > > ...Has anyone > > else run into this situation where the "AiiNET" prompt occurs during > > manual dial up? In the following paragraph I provide more detail. > > If

Re: [debian-users] minicom or ISP? - No urgency - answer if you have time.

2007-11-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 16 November 2007, Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct. wrote: > This question is informational and there is no urgency. I'm not going to cover what has the first response has said, but I have a bit I can add: > When dialing up my ISP in an interactive mode providing user name and > password I

Re: [debian-users] minicom or ISP? - No urgency - answer if you have time.

2007-11-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 03:08:11PM -0700, Ted Hilts - Thunderbird Acct. wrote: > When dialing up my ISP in an interactive mode providing user name and > password I get a third prompt with the prompt message "AiiNET". So now > I get 3 prompts: "user name", "password", and "AiiNET" where before I

Re: [debian-users] Re: Need to remove a ghost file, but can't because it doesn't exist

2006-11-15 Thread Bob Bosiljevac
# rm -f 1141914051.* No promises... but something like that worked once for me in a similar mysterious situation. Ah, hadn't tried that yet. Too bad it didn't work. $ rm -i 1141914051.* rm: cannot lstat `1141914051.M484859P8695V0309Ip0007553_0.draupnir,S=3707:2,S': No such file or

Re: [debian-users] Re: Package installation history.

2006-11-14 Thread Bob Bosiljevac
snip for things I want to do at this session. I want to be selective because I tend to only want to do certain updates after hours, just in case. Yes, you should switch to aptitude. Thank you. That was perfect. It is basically a drop in replacement for how I was using 'apt-get' with th

Re: Debian Users...

2003-11-20 Thread Andy Firman
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 01:19:39PM -0800, Jeff wrote: > Russell Coker, 2003-Nov-20 04:14 +1100: > > On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:00, Caoilte O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > doesn't fam engage in periodic disk access? i certainly get > > > a lot less when not using kde despite having 256M RAM. >

Re: Debian Users...

2003-11-18 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake Yves Rutschle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 03:19:46PM -0500, Ryan M. Golbeck wrote: > > apt-get install ratpoison > > ratpoison looks interesting (I never actually tried it, > because I ran into ION first and fell in love). > > The idea of only having one, full-scree

Re: [debian-users:38340] A new debian mirror in UTnet is wanted.

2003-10-01 Thread YOSHIFUJI Hideaki / $B5HF#1QL@(B
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Thread stealing [was Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?]

2002-06-25 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 07:41:42AM -0400, christophe barbé wrote: > Could you avoid posting to a mailing list by doing a reply to a current > thread and changing the subject ? I don't know for pine but on MUA able > to display the threads, it's boring to see a thread in another simply > because you

Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-25 Thread christophe barbé
You already got enough reply about sorting, so : Could you avoid posting to a mailing list by doing a reply to a current thread and changing the subject ? I don't know for pine but on MUA able to display the threads, it's boring to see a thread in another simply because you can type the ml address

Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-24 Thread Bob Proulx
> I subscribe to three lists that use this protocol and I can tell you > that "intrusive" is not nearly a strong enough word. There is little > enough space for the $subject without wasting it on null values. Agreed totally. No one mentioned the problem of handling the subject line for replies.

Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-24 Thread Gary Turner
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 15:55:18 -0400 (EDT), Thomas Good wrote: >On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Marc Wilson wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 12:30:27PM -0400, Thomas Good wrote: >> > Why have we no subject prefix on postings, ala "[Debian Users]" >> > to use for sorting... ??? >> >> Because it's (a) intrusi

Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-24 Thread CaT
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 01:04:58AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.06.24.2321 +0200]: > > > > Well, all I can say is, when I opened my email and saw a bunch of messages > > with "[ Debian Users ]" in the Subject line, I thought, "Oh, no, what's

Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-24 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.06.24.2321 +0200]: > > Well, all I can say is, when I opened my email and saw a bunch of messages > with "[ Debian Users ]" in the Subject line, I thought, "Oh, no, what's > possessed them to do that?" There's little enough real estate in the

Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-24 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Thomas Good wrote: > But "Intrusive" ? - that may be slightly melodramatic. Well, all I can say is, when I opened my email and saw a bunch of messages with "[ Debian Users ]" in the Subject line, I thought, "Oh, no, what's possessed them to do that?" There's little enough r

Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-24 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 03:55:18PM -0400, Thomas Good wrote: > On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Marc Wilson wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 12:30:27PM -0400, Thomas Good wrote: > > > Why have we no subject prefix on postings, ala "[Debian Users]" > > > to use for sorting... ??? > > > > Because it's (a) i

Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-24 Thread Thomas Good
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 12:30:27PM -0400, Thomas Good wrote: > > Why have we no subject prefix on postings, ala "[Debian Users]" > > to use for sorting... ??? > > Because it's (a) intrusive, (b) annoying, and (c) not necessary. Here's a I don't want to s

Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-24 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 11:51:58AM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: | On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 12:30:27PM -0400, Thomas Good wrote: | > Why have we no subject prefix on postings, ala "[Debian Users]" | > to use for sorting... ??? | | Because it's (a) intrusive, (b) annoying, and (c) not necessary. Here's

Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-24 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 12:30:27PM -0400, Thomas Good wrote: > Why have we no subject prefix on postings, ala "[Debian Users]" > to use for sorting... ??? Because it's (a) intrusive, (b) annoying, and (c) not necessary. Here's a procmail recipie that'll sort out all mail from Debian mailing lists

Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-24 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 12:30:27PM -0400, Thomas Good wrote: > Why have we no subject prefix on postings, ala "[Debian Users]" > to use for sorting... ??? Sort using some other header. Here's a procmail recipe... :0 * ^X-Mailing-List:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-24 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 12:30:27PM -0400, Thomas Good wrote: > Why have we no subject prefix on postings, ala "[Debian Users]" > to use for sorting... ??? Filtering on the X-Mailing-List: header is far more reliable and far less intrusive. There are example procmail recipes in the documentation of

Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-24 Thread Arthur H. Johnson II
Why not sort on the address, thats what I do. -- Arthur H. Johnson II, Debian GNU/Linux Advocate Catechist, St John Catholic Church, Davison MI USA President, Genesee County Linux Users Group IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED],#debian YIM: arthurjohnson AIM: bytor4232 ICQ: 31770438 On Mon, 24 Jun 2002

Re: [ Debian Users ] Subject Prefix ?

2002-06-24 Thread Mike Dresser
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Thomas Good wrote: > Hi All, > > Why have we no subject prefix on postings, ala "[Debian Users]" > to use for sorting... ??? > > Thanks! Setup your filters to filter on To or CC: to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsub

Re: [debian-users] bride of 3Com 3c900 NIC troubles

2001-04-19 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:44:52AM -0700, Randall Hansen wrote: > I'm still not getting any packets out, though. I have nameservers in > /etc/resolv.conf. I have *no idea* where to configure a default gateway. Do > I need to do a 'route add'? Some documentation I've seen makes reference to > "/etc/

Re: [debian-users] 3Com 3c900 NIC troubles

2001-04-19 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
the driver by 3com isn´t good. try the vortex driver, it works very fine here. (but i´m useing kernel 2.4.*). andreas

RE: [debian-users] 3Com 3c900 NIC troubles

2001-04-19 Thread Mark S
If that doesn't work, you could try 'alias eth0 3c59x' -Original Message- From: Michael Marziani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:40 PM To: 'Randall Hansen'; 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' Subject: RE: [debian-users] 3Com 3c

Re: [debian-users] 3Com 3c900 NIC troubles

2001-04-19 Thread alburrow
Hi, Regarding your NIC woes: > I'm trying to get my 3Com 3c900B-TPO working under Debian 2.2.18pre21. > Here's what I've tried, and what I know, or think I know :P > > - Debian installer didn't detect the card. > - The card's not detected by Debian at boot (I found no 'eth0' in dmesg) > - 'i

Re: [debian-users] 3Com 3c900 NIC troubles

2001-04-19 Thread Tony Crawford
Randall Hansen wrote (on 19 Apr 2001, at 8:30): > Hello folks ~ > > I'm trying to get my 3Com 3c900B-TPO working under Debian 2.2.18pre21. > Here's what I've tried, and what I know, or think I know :P "The" site to read about the 3com cards is Donald Becker's http://www.scyld.com/network/ I se

RE: [debian-users] 3Com 3c900 NIC troubles

2001-04-19 Thread Michael Marziani
I'm not sure how linuxconf works on debian (I actually hadn't used it since I switched from redhat). I'm still learning about the whole Debian subculture, but I think the "Debian way" is to just edit the files directly. As I've begun to do that more I feel like I understand the system a lot better

Re: [debian-users] 3Com 3c900 NIC troubles

2001-04-19 Thread Andrzej Swedrzynski
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Randall Hansen wrote: > I'm trying to get my 3Com 3c900B-TPO working under Debian 2.2.18pre21. [snip] I suppose that all that errors with 3Com 90x cards under Debian 2.2 are because of version of the driver it uses. The source file 3c59x.c of module 3c59x was last edited in 1

Re: [debian-users] 3Com 3c900 NIC troubles

2001-04-19 Thread Jason Healy
At 987687039s since epoch (04/19/01 11:30:39 -0400 UTC), Randall Hansen wrote: > I'm trying to get my 3Com 3c900B-TPO working under Debian 2.2.18pre21. > Here's what I've tried, and what I know, or think I know :P I have had trouble getting Linux (of all flavors) to find my 3Com cards at times.

Re: Debian users and newsgroups

1998-01-23 Thread John Spence
On Fri, Jan 23, 1998 at 10:09:56AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm using slrn's scoring to bring Debian-related postings to my attention. I've just re-written my score file for the Linux groups I subscribe to. I can filter out most of the unwanted messages by killing those with subjects con

Re: Debian users and newsgroups

1998-01-23 Thread jdassen
On Thu, Jan 22, 1998 at 08:01:37PM +1030, John Spence wrote: > I just replied to a message in comp.os.linux.setup that asked where all > the Debian users were. > > Are we so few or are we so selective? The only reason I read the message > at all is because I filter out every newsgroup message tha