Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On 05.08.21 00:01, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users, and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works: * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be other mailing

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 06:57:11PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-06 4:24 p.m., Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 12:25:52PM -0400, Polyna-Maude > > Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> Actually, the message you sent would have been sent only to your

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

Hi, On 2021-08-06 4:24 p.m., Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 12:25:52PM -0400, Polyna-Maude > Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> Actually, the message you sent would have been sent only to yourself in >> the reply if I wouldn't have took the time to add the mailing list as CC. > > OK,

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

Hi, Brian wrote: > Have I missed out? Is there a mind reading package in Debian 11. apt-file search telepathy | wc -l reports thousands of occurences. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 12:25:52PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Actually, the message you sent would have been sent only to yourself in the reply if I wouldn't have took the time to add the mailing list as CC. OK, let's explore why. According to your User-Agent header, you are

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 12:39:59PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: No it's not the opposite problem. If the list become moderated or at least controlled in some way then it would prevent outsider (people not registered on the mailing list) from send mail onto the list. Except, we

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Fri 06 Aug 2021 at 12:31:01 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] > If you can read my mind then you'd know that it's not what I was thinking. > > If you can't read my mind, then maybe it's better to keep quiet than to > say stuff you don't have a damn clue about. Have I missed

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

Hi, On 2021-08-06 9:43 a.m., Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 06:54:53AM -0400, Polyna-Maude > Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> Maybe this is obvious for you, but for myself, I don't take note of >> who's "on the list" and "who's not". So if someone reply to me regarding >> a message

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

Hi, On 2021-08-06 8:20 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 07:33:04AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: >> On 2021-08-06 at 07:28, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 06:54:53AM -0400, Polyna-Maude >>> Racicot-Summerside wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> [...] >>> Ma

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

Hi, On 2021-08-06 7:28 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 06:54:53AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >> Hi, > > [...] > >> Maybe this is obvious for you, but for myself, I don't take note of >> who's "on the list" and "who's not" [...] > > Easy: if the mess

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 06:54:53AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: Maybe this is obvious for you, but for myself, I don't take note of who's "on the list" and "who's not". So if someone reply to me regarding a message that was posted on the list, there's pretty good chance that I'll

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 07:33:04AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-08-06 at 07:28, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 06:54:53AM -0400, Polyna-Maude > > Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > >> Hi, > > > > [...] > > > >> Maybe this is obvious for you, but for myself, I don't t

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

Hi, Jonathan Dowland wrote towards Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside: > > I've seen that they > > sometimes reply privately to people's posts on the list. > > [...] you accidentally replied to their mail, back to the list. Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside: > Maybe this is obvious for you, but for my

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On 2021-08-06 at 07:28, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 06:54:53AM -0400, Polyna-Maude > Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> Hi, > > [...] > >> Maybe this is obvious for you, but for myself, I don't take note >> of who's "on the list" and "who's not" [...] > > Easy: if the message

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Fri, Aug 06, 2021 at 06:54:53AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, [...] > Maybe this is obvious for you, but for myself, I don't take note of > who's "on the list" and "who's not" [...] Easy: if the message comes from the list, reply goes to the list. Your MUA should be able

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

Hi, On 2021-08-06 5:25 a.m., Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 09:21:11PM -0400, Polyna-Maude > Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> I don't see how it would be possible to ban a user on a open mailing >> list that anyone can write to (without being registered). > > It is possible, althou

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

Hi Andrew, Greg wrote a useful mail in another thread () and Dan replied to suggest that some of his points might be worth folding into your monthly mail-out. (In case you haven't seen that thread.) Best, -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 09:21:11PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: I don't see how it would be possible to ban a user on a open mailing list that anyone can write to (without being registered). It is possible, although pretty rare. One person who was banned from this list a long t

Re: Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

Hi Brian, Some of the people who have received temporary bans have then come back and been relatively well behaved thereafter. As a member of the Debian Community team, I'm certain that the listmasters have banned people for short periods in the past. Rather than being judgmental or jumping to c

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Thu, Aug 05, 2021 at 07:35:55PM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] > > Listmasters' discretion is always the final arbiter. > > Indeed. They apply the lump hammer. Always assuming the best ;-/ Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 23:30:45 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 11:43:26PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 22:01:18 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > > Problems? > > > = > > > > > > Complaints about inappropriate behaviour should be referred t

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On 8/4/21, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-04 6:43 p.m., Brian wrote: >> On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 22:01:18 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >> >>> Problems? >>> = >>> >>> Complaints about inappropriate behaviour should be referred to the >>> Debian Community Team .

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

Hi, On 2021-08-04 6:43 p.m., Brian wrote: > On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 22:01:18 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > >> Problems? >> = >> >> Complaints about inappropriate behaviour should be referred to the >> Debian Community Team . >> >> Inappropriate behaviour on the list may lead to warnings

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Wed, Aug 04, 2021 at 11:43:26PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 22:01:18 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > Problems? > > = > > > > Complaints about inappropriate behaviour should be referred to the > > Debian Community Team . > > > > Inappropriate behaviour on the list

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Wed 04 Aug 2021 at 22:01:18 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Problems? > = > > Complaints about inappropriate behaviour should be referred to the > Debian Community Team . > > Inappropriate behaviour on the list may lead to warnings; repeated bad > behaviour may lead to temporary or

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Sat, May 01, 2021 at 03:17:39AM -0700, Weaver wrote: I can recall days when I'd get 300 mails or more, but that was when the attitude was it was a list for Debian users, and not just a list for Debian issues. So can I. The list has definitely got quieter in the last 20 years. Perhaps the p

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Sb, 01 mai 21, 03:17:39, Weaver wrote: > > `This is a fairly busy mailing list' - Oh no, it isn't! > It used to be. > I can recall days when I'd get 300 mails or more, but that was when the > attitude was it was a list for Debian users, and not just a list for > Debian issues. > At times, there

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Sat, May 01, 2021 at 03:17:39AM -0700, Weaver wrote: > On 01-05-2021 20:07, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users, > > and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. > > > > Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works:

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On 01-05-2021 20:07, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users, > and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. > > Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works: > > * The language on this mailing list is English. There may be

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On 02/02/2021 18:07, Brian wrote: Users do not read email headers. Many do not even know they exist. That is true, but MUAs can detect the List-Unsubscribe header and offer a button to unsubscribe. Even gmail, which has very particular (and wrong) opinions on how email should work supposedl

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 01:57:19PM -0800, Rey Paderna wrote: > I think the most obvious method is to go to > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/, put your email and then > unsubscribe.  Unfortunately this method does not work. "Does not work" does not compute. Please, folks. Pretty please. If yo

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

I think the most obvious method is to go to https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/, put your email and then unsubscribe.  Unfortunately this method does not work.

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

Your domain is wrong.  Should be @lists.debian.org

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

RP wrote: > Your domain is wrong.  Should be @lists.debian.org Thank you, I've never been corrected so politely before. -dsr-

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Tue 02 Feb 2021 at 13:14:35 -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 12:01:40 -0800 > Michael Turner wrote: > > > How do I unsubscribe? > > Hmmm, is this becoming a FAQ? > > In the headers of emails sent from many list servers you will find a Users do not read email headers. M

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 12:01:40 -0800 Michael Turner wrote: > How do I unsubscribe? Hmmm, is this becoming a FAQ? In the headers of emails sent from many list servers you will find a heading something like: List-Unsubscribe: M

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Tue 02 Feb 2021 at 12:01:40 -0800, Michael Turner wrote: > How do I unsubscribe? You are capable of using a search engine? Search for unsubscribe "debian-user" I think Greg Wooledg has made his point. -- Brian.

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 12:01:40PM -0800, Michael Turner wrote: > How do I unsubscribe? Look at the headers of a mail you get from the mailing list. Among them, there's one roughly looking like this: List-Unsubscribe: It's te

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

Michael Turner wrote: > How do I unsubscribe? > The headers of this and every other message on the list include: List-Id: List-URL: List-Post: List-Help: Li

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

How do I unsubscribe? On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 4:49 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 09:43:50PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users, > > and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. > > > > Some guidelines wh

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines (FAQ) - posted monthly

On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 09:43:50PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users, > and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. > > Some guidelines which may help explain how the list works: [...] May I suggest a few additions? Feel f

Re: debian-user list information and guidelines : don't use CC mail list

On Ma, 26 ian 21, 11:37:59, Robbi Nespu wrote: > Hi hello > > On 24/1/2021 3:24 am, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > The mailing list is a Debian communication forum. As such, it is subject to > > both the Debian mailing list Code of Conduct and the main Debian Code of > > Conduct > > > > https://w

Re: debian-user list information and guidelines : don't use CC mail list

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 11:37:59AM +0800, Robbi Nespu wrote: > Hi hello [...] > I would like ask opinion on a little proposal to add new rule > regrading using CC with mail list address. > > The reason is, why the sender need to use "TO" to original sender / > reply-er and CC the mail list, sinc

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On Lu, 25 ian 21, 15:29:11, John Kaufmann wrote: > On 2021-01-25 14:23, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Lu, 25 ian 21, 11:11:44, John Kaufmann wrote: > > > On 2021-01-25 08:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote: > > > > > > In the last seven day

Re: debian-user list information and guidelines : don't use CC mail list

Hi hello On 24/1/2021 3:24 am, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: The mailing list is a Debian communication forum. As such, it is subject to both the Debian mailing list Code of Conduct and the main Debian Code of Conduct https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct https://www.debian.org/code_of

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On 2021-01-25 at 08:57, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi John, > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:16:38AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote: >> nb.net no longer run their own MTA (maybe for just this reason?), >> farming it out to userservices.net. As a result they increasingly >> unresponsive to complaints. I have

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On 2021-01-25 14:23, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 25 ian 21, 11:11:44, John Kaufmann wrote: On 2021-01-25 08:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote: In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list: * debian-user 1 bounce

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On 2021-01-25 14:57, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 11:39:14AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote: On 2021-01-25 08:56, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: ... Look, I don't fear spam as much as provider's greed. ... IMO the best anti-spam measures are a good MUA and a knowledgeable user. Coul

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 11:39:14AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote: > On 2021-01-25 08:56, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >... > >Sometimes I get the impression that some economic actors hate mail > >because it can't be fenced-off as easily as the "social" silos and > >are doing their best to kill it. > > >

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On Lu, 25 ian 21, 11:11:44, John Kaufmann wrote: > On 2021-01-25 08:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote: > > > > In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list: > > > > * debian-user > > > > 1 bounce out of mails in o

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021, Andy Smith wrote: to point them at fastmail.com. I've no association with fastmail.com, I just find them pleasant to deal with when helping people. an other solution is "getmail", available as a debian package, and also, I suppose, wit

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On 2021-01-25 08:56, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: ... Sometimes I get the impression that some economic actors hate mail because it can't be fenced-off as easily as the "social" silos and are doing their best to kill it. A pity that pgp/gpg hasn't caught on better. That comment led me to wonder abo

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On 2021-01-25 07:56 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: A pity that pgp/gpg hasn't caught on better. fud - fear uncertainty and doubt if you use encryption you'll attract the attention of the man

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On 2021-01-25 08:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote: In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list: * debian-user 1 bounce out of mails in one day (%, kick-score is 80%) First: How common is this occurrence for oth

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On 2021-01-25 02:36, Andy Smith wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote: ... The best practice when dealing with a piece of mail that has been identified as so spammy that you don't want to receive it is not to file it away in a spam folder, but to reject it at SMTP

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On Monday 25 January 2021 08:56:04 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:29:54AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 02:17:34PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Are those modifications added by the Debian mailing list? That'd > > > be strange, because I don't

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On Monday 25 January 2021 08:29:54 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 02:17:34PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Are those modifications added by the Debian mailing list? That'd be > > strange, because I don't see them... > > No. They're done on the receiving end. I'm just letting

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 02:56:04PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Sometimes I get the impression that some economic actors hate mail > because it can't be fenced-off as easily as the "social" silos and > are doing their best to kill it. That may be true, but it's not the reasoning behind the cha

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

Hi John, On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:16:38AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote: > nb.net no longer run their own MTA (maybe for just this reason?), > farming it out to userservices.net. As a result they increasingly > unresponsive to complaints. I have not figured out my next step. As mentioned, I do sel

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:29:54AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 02:17:34PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Are those modifications added by the Debian mailing list? That'd be > > strange, because I don't see them... > > No. They're done on the receiving end. I'm just

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On 2021-01-25 04:24, Joe wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 08:55:53 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 25 ian 21, 01:03:07, John Kaufmann wrote: ... Is there an intelligent way to manage when spam control efforts break the system they want to protect? Do the debian lists attempt to control spam by blo

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 02:17:34PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Are those modifications added by the Debian mailing list? That'd be > strange, because I don't see them... No. They're done on the receiving end. I'm just letting you know that there's some horrible shit out here in the real wor

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On 2021-01-25 04:05, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:55:53AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 25 ian 21, 01:03:07, John Kaufmann wrote: [...] and can never get my ISP to care about this. We can at least pester them about it. If enough of us do, eventually they will hav

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:11:51AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote: > > > In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list: > > > * debian-user > > > 1 bounce out of mails in one day (%, kick-score is 80%) > > > > First

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On 2021-01-25 01:55, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 25 ian 21, 01:03:07, John Kaufmann wrote: ... ... the background info links ... explain the origin of the problem in spam control, and why bouncing list mail is not nice, and what can and should be done about spam. I'm sympathetic to the problem,

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote: > > In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list: > > * debian-user > > 1 bounce out of mails in one day (%, kick-score is 80%) > > First: How common is this occurrence for others? It is common enough that it

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On 01/25/2021 12:03 AM, John Kaufmann wrote: On 2021-01-23 14:24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users,and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. ... There is a comprehensive FAQ on the Debian Wiki which is in need of updating. htt

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 08:55:53 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 25 ian 21, 01:03:07, John Kaufmann wrote: > > > In the last seven days we've seen bounces for the following list: > > > * debian-user > > > 1 bounce out of mails in one day (%, kick-score > > > is 80%) > > > > First: How co

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 08:55:53AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 25 ian 21, 01:03:07, John Kaufmann wrote: > > [...]and can never get my > > ISP to care about this. > > We can at least pester them about it. If enough of us do, eventually > they will have no choice bu

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

Hi John, On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 01:03:07AM -0500, John Kaufmann wrote: > Your post provides a hook to ask about a question that arises sporadically: > Probably less than one a month I receive from Debian Listmaster Team > a message "lists.debian.org has received > bounces from you". Invariabl

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On Lu, 25 ian 21, 01:03:07, John Kaufmann wrote: > On 2021-01-23 14:24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian > > users,and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. > > ... > > There is a comprehensive FAQ on the Debian Wiki which is in need

Re: debian-user list info and guidelines: spam

On 2021-01-23 14:24, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: debian-user is a mailing list provided for support for Debian users,and to facilitate discussion on relevant topics. ... There is a comprehensive FAQ on the Debian Wiki which is in need of updating. https://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Your p

Re: debian-user list problem

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 16:40:22 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 12 October 2015 16:04:03 moxalt wrote: > > I thought that was a bit strange and enquired > > as to whether the Debian list sends people's messages back to them by > > default. Since I had only just subscribed and had not received a

Re: debian-user list problem

On Monday 12 October 2015 16:04:03 moxalt wrote: > I thought that was a bit strange and enquired > as to whether the Debian list sends people's messages back to them by > default. Since I had only just subscribed and had not received any posts > back yet I had cause to wonder. I get mine back, pro

Re: debian-user list problem

On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 18:04:03 +0300, moxalt wrote: > > Besides no attribution or quoting > > Anyone subscribed to the mailing list and in a client with threading will be > able to see the context, and anyone recently subscribed can look at the > archives for all I care. If a message deserves a po

Re: debian-user list problem

> Besides no attribution or quoting Anyone subscribed to the mailing list and in a client with threading will be able to see the context, and anyone recently subscribed can look at the archives for all I care. If a message deserves a point-by-point rebuttal I'll give it one in the appropriate form

Re: debian-user list problem

On 10/11/2015 11:58 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 22:43:11 maderios wrote: On 10/11/2015 09:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 19:06:11 moxalt wrote: Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That seems like a rather strange defaul

Re: debian-user list problem

Hi, Martin Str|mberg wrote: > > So for me follow-up in tin on aioe.org doesn't work. to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Seems the mail-news gateway doesn't dare to forward > followups in the other direction https://wiki.debian.org/UseNet "Theoretically, registering with bofh.it will allow you to post v

Re: debian-user list problem

Martin Str|mberg [2015-10-12 11:00:17+02] wrote: > Now I hope somebody can tell me if there's an easier way to reply to > the list using tin, hitting r (for reply to sender) and then replacing > the mail address of the post I'm replying to with d-u@l.d.o, so I > don't forget to do that in my excit

Re: debian-user list problem

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:36:47PM +0200, Martin Str|mberg wrote: [...] > > what you are looking for (instead of "reply"). So perhaps try an "f". > > That doesn't work. It tried several times (three?) first before realising > that my replies didn't

Re: debian-user list problem

Hi, Martin Str|mberg wrote: > I read this as the news group linux.debian.user on aioe.org with tin. Actually debian-user is a mailing list, not a newsgroup. (Communicating via POP, IMAP, SMTP instead of NNTP.) The group is obviously a mirror of the list. My news provider has it and it seems up t

Re: debian-user list problem

In article to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:00:17AM +0200, Martin Str|mberg wrote: > > In article Lisi Reisz > > wrote: > > > D'oh! I was forgetting that this list is not subscribers only. > > > > Really?! > > > > I hope

Re: debian-user list problem

On Monday 12 October 2015 10:00:17 Martin Str|mberg wrote: > In article Lisi Reisz wrote: > > D'oh! I was forgetting that this list is not subscribers only. > > Really?! > > I hope this goes through. It has. > I sure have been wanting to reply to some things. > I read this as the news group

Re: debian-user list problem

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:00:17AM +0200, Martin Str|mberg wrote: > In article Lisi Reisz > wrote: > > D'oh! I was forgetting that this list is not subscribers only. > > Really?! > > I hope this goes through. I sure have been wanting to reply to

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In article Lisi Reisz wrote: > D'oh! I was forgetting that this list is not subscribers only. Really?! I hope this goes through. I sure have been wanting to reply to some things. I read this as the news group linux.debian.user on aioe.org with tin. Now I hope somebody can tell me if there's

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On Sunday 11 October 2015 22:43:11 maderios wrote: > On 10/11/2015 09:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 11 October 2015 19:06:11 moxalt wrote: > >> Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? > >> That seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the >

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On 10/11/2015 09:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 19:06:11 moxalt wrote: Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the default in mailman). It isn't Debian that doesn't. It's Gmail.

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On Sunday 11 October 2015 19:06:11 moxalt wrote: > Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That > seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the default in > mailman). It isn't Debian that doesn't. It's Gmail. Lisi

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On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 20:40:32 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 06:50:13PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > Can we discard this crystal ball of yours and cast a few runes or examine > > chicken entrails instead? :) > > :-) > > > X-Spam-Status gives a list of SpamAssa

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 06:50:13PM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] > Can we discard this crystal ball of yours and cast a few runes or examine > chicken entrails instead? :) :-) > X-Spam-Status gives a list of SpamAssassin tests that returned a non-zero

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moxalt writes: > Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? Yes it does. > That seems like a rather strange default It's Gmail that has the strange default. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

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On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 21:06:11 +0300, moxalt wrote: > Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That > seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the default in > mailman). Besides no attribution or quoting you appear to have completely missed understa

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Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the default in mailman).

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On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 09:01:12 -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 10/11/2015 05:08 AM, maderios wrote: > > >Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user > >list problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can't receive mail > >from other threads. > >About my spam box: I

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On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 17:00:43 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 03:01:23PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 15:17:19 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:40:15PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > > > I was wondering what the signifi

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On 10/11/2015 05:08 AM, maderios wrote: Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user list problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can't receive mail from other threads. About my spam box: I watch it very often. It is empty. Maderios is your problem that you do n

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 03:01:23PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 15:17:19 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:40:15PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > I was wondering what the significance of LDOSUBSCRIBER in th

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On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 15:17:19 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:40:15PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > I was wondering what the significance of LDOSUBSCRIBER in the headers > > of the first mail in this thread is. > > > > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.9 required=4.0 tests=DK

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:40:15PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 14:15:15 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:37:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > Complain at Google. Perhaps it helps. > > >

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On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 14:15:15 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:37:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > > Complain at Google. Perhaps it helps. > > > > How do you work out that the OP's subscription address is a gmail one? > > Crystal ball. Plus... reading mail h

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