Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Rob Owens wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 07:43:43AM +0100, Lisi wrote: >> On Saturday 11 June 2011 00:41:10 Rob Owens wrote: >> > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> > > packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line en

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 12/06/11 06:25, Paul E Condon wrote: >> >> This forces me to ask yet another clueless question: When I install a >> documentation package, like this one, where are the documentation >> files placed? There is an entry corresponding to the

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get [solved]

2011-06-11 Thread Paul E Condon
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Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 12/06/11 07:10, Wolodja Wentland wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 07:00 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> To see what was delivered:- >> cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.list | less > > Much easier to just use (IMHO): > > dpkg -L PKG_NAME > > or (if installed): > > dlocate -L PKG_NAM

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Wayne Topa
On 06/11/2011 04:25 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20110611_193705, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 11 iun 11, 10:05:16, Paul E Condon wrote: OT: while checking my memory on this, I noticed a plaintive question from 2007 about the "Aptitude Reference Manual" which seemed to be mentioned in Debian do

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 07:00 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > To see what was delivered:- > cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.list | less Much easier to just use (IMHO): dpkg -L PKG_NAME or (if installed): dlocate -L PKG_NAME -- .''`. Wolodja Wentland : :' : `. `'` 409

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 12/06/11 06:25, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20110611_193705, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Sb, 11 iun 11, 10:05:16, Paul E Condon wrote: >>> >>> OT: while checking my memory on this, I noticed a plaintive question >>> from 2007 about the "Aptitude Reference Manual" which seemed to be >>> mentioned i

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110611_193705, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 11 iun 11, 10:05:16, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > OT: while checking my memory on this, I noticed a plaintive question > > from 2007 about the "Aptitude Reference Manual" which seemed to be > > mentioned in Debian documentation but seemed not to e

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 11 iun 11, 10:05:16, Paul E Condon wrote: > > OT: while checking my memory on this, I noticed a plaintive question > from 2007 about the "Aptitude Reference Manual" which seemed to be > mentioned in Debian documentation but seemed not to exist. My quick > search indicates that this situatio

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:05:16AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20110611_074343, Lisi wrote: > > On Saturday 11 June 2011 00:41:10 Rob Owens wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line entry for

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 07:43:43AM +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Saturday 11 June 2011 00:41:10 Rob Owens wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line entry for apt > > > to list all the available packages for

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-11 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110611_074343, Lisi wrote: > On Saturday 11 June 2011 00:41:10 Rob Owens wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line entry for apt > > > to list all the available packages for a system, rather than

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 11 June 2011 00:41:10 Rob Owens wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line entry for apt > > to list all the available packages for a system, rather than directly > > parsing /var/lib/dpkg/avail

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 08:21:41AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > packages. I'm actually looking for a simple comand line entry for apt > to list all the available packages for a system, rather than directly > parsing /var/lib/dpkg/available, but this is not it. > Does this do what you want? a

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 11/06/11 04:44, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 10 iun 11, 23:55:58, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> Asking me about the merits of aptitude is liking asking a emac fanboi >> about the merits of vi :-) > > I don't think this is a fair comparison, but rather vi vs. vim ;) It wasn't meant to be :-) I

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 10 iun 11, 23:55:58, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > Asking me about the merits of aptitude is liking asking a emac fanboi > about the merits of vi :-) I don't think this is a fair comparison, but rather vi vs. vim ;) aptitude can do almost everything apt-get/apt-cache can do, but: + has very

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/06/11 22:21, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal > wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: >>> To find a package I also frequently do something like this: >>> >>> yum list available |grep abr_package_name >> >> This is either "

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 08:21 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal >> wrote: >> > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: >> >> I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no e

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 08:21 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal > wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: > >> I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. > >> Giving Debian a whirl now. > >> > > [cut] > >> >

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-10 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: >> I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. >> Giving Debian a whirl now. >> > [cut] >> >> yum update > > This becomes "apt-get update" in debian. No. It's not. This

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-09 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 10:08:45PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Just out of curiosity: is there an equivalent for 'apt-get update' > (checking for updates without actually installing them)? "apt-get update" doesn't check for updates without actually installing them: it updates the local cache o

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 22:08 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 06 iun 11, 14:39:40, Matt wrote: > > > > I gather in the apt-get world the equivalent is: > > > > apt-get update > > apt-get upgrade > > > > I think anyway? Being used to yum I like there way better. ;-) > > Just out of curiosit

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 06 iun 11, 14:39:40, Matt wrote: > > I gather in the apt-get world the equivalent is: > > apt-get update > apt-get upgrade > > I think anyway? Being used to yum I like there way better. ;-) Just out of curiosity: is there an equivalent for 'apt-get update' (checking for updates without

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get - erratum

2011-06-06 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Lisi wrote: > On Monday 06 June 2011 21:25:52 Tom H wrote: >> >> You mean "apt-get dist-upgrade" ("aptitude full-upgrade" is the >> aptitude equivalent). > > Thanks - I am much more familiar with aptitude. You're welcome. I use apt-get but the aptitude options make

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 14:39 -0500, Matt wrote: > > remains that yum update installs things and apt-get update simply updates > > the > > database. This caused me considerable confusion. I suggest that you check > > this before telling me that I am incorrect in believing it. > > Doing: > > yum

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get - erratum

2011-06-06 Thread Lisi
On Monday 06 June 2011 21:25:52 Tom H wrote: > You mean "apt-get dist-upgrade" ("aptitude full-upgrade" is the > aptitude equivalent). Thanks - I am much more familiar with aptitude. Because aptitude has "switched" (by recommendation, not by formal instructions) from aptitude dist-upgrade to ap

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get - erratum

2011-06-06 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Lisi wrote: > On Monday 06 June 2011 20:14:34 Lisi wrote: >> >> The fact that you are unfamiliar with apt-get update > > should, of course, be apt-get full-upgrade. You mean "apt-get dist-upgrade" ("aptitude full-upgrade" is the aptitude equivalent). -- To UNSUB

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: >> >> I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. >> Giving Debian a whirl now. >> >> yum update > > This becomes "apt-get update" in debian. No. "apt-get update; apt-g

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Lisi
On Monday 06 June 2011 20:39:40 Matt wrote: > I gather in the apt-get world the equivalent is: > > apt-get update > apt-get upgrade Yes - but certainly in aptitude (I am more familiar with aptitude than with apt) it is now recommended to use either aptitude safe-upgrade or aptitude full-upgrade

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Matt
> remains that yum update installs things and apt-get update simply updates the > database.  This caused me considerable confusion.  I suggest that you check > this before telling me that I am incorrect in believing it. Doing: yum update Causes yum to check all installed packages including kerne

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get - erratum

2011-06-06 Thread Lisi
On Monday 06 June 2011 20:14:34 Lisi wrote: > The fact that you are unfamiliar with apt-get update should, of course, be apt-get full-upgrade. Sorry :-( I'm a lousy typist and teh keyboard seems to affect my brain. Lisi > is not strictly > relevant here, though if someone who is familiar wit

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Lisi
On Monday 06 June 2011 19:27:24 William Hopkins wrote: > On 06/06/11 at 06:52pm, Lisi wrote: > > On Monday 06 June 2011 17:03:36 Matt wrote: > > > I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. > > > Giving Debian a whirl now. > > > > Having made a desultary attempt in teh other di

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread William Hopkins
On 06/06/11 at 06:52pm, Lisi wrote: > On Monday 06 June 2011 17:03:36 Matt wrote: > > I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. > > Giving Debian a whirl now. > > Having made a desultary attempt in teh other direction, I feel your pain. :-( > > [snip] > > In Centos when I wa

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Lisi
On Monday 06 June 2011 17:03:36 Matt wrote: > I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. > Giving Debian a whirl now. Having made a desultary attempt in teh other direction, I feel your pain. :-( [snip] > In Centos when I want to update or add a package I do this: > > yum upd

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:03:36 -0500, Matt wrote: > I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. Giving > Debian a whirl now. (...) > Now on Centos when I do 'yum update' after a fresh install I usually get > offered a good number of patches etc. When I do 'apt-get update' I se

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Tom Grace
On 06/06/2011 05:15 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: >> Now on Centos when I do 'yum update' after a fresh install I usually >> get offered a good number of patches etc. When I do 'apt-get update' >> I seem to get nothing. > > Is your sources.list no

Re: Debian Questions on apt-get

2011-06-06 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:03:36AM -0500, Matt wrote: > I have worked with Centos quite a bit in past though no expert. > Giving Debian a whirl now. > [cut] > > yum update This becomes "apt-get update" in debian. > > or: > > yum install package_name apt-get install package_name > > To find