Re: Debian: A noob query

Joey Hess: > > This graph puts the other in perspective; gnome is used by seven times > as many users. There is an interesting drop at the end of this month > however. s/used/installed. I have Gnome 3 installed as well, but I don't actually use it very much. J. -- If I could travel through tim

Re: Debian: A noob query

Rob Owens wrote: > But I also don't see an obvious alternative that most GNOME 2 users are > switching to. XFCE and LXDE get mentioned a lot, but I don't think it's > clear yet which desktop environment will get most of the GNOME 2 > refugees. This graph clearly shows a spike in xfce in the past

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On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 07:38:46PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 10:17 -0500, Rob Owens wrote: > > Stable still might use GNOME 2, but starting with a dead desktop > environment is nonsense. > That's a good point about not wanting to start down a dead-end street. I'm not sure

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On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 10:17 -0500, Rob Owens wrote: > Just remember that as you learn more, you might switch distros at > some time. Good advice :) > For now, stick with the defaults because that's what most people will be > able to help you with. In Debian's case, that would be the Gnome > desk

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2011/11/24 Sam Vagni : > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Andrew Wood wrote: > >> Hi Sam > > Hello. > >> I would whole heartedly recommend Debian. The problem with the other distros >> like Ubuntu, Fedora etc that try to be on the bleeding edge is that they >> tend to be buggy (and often slower) a

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2011/11/26 Wilko Fokken : > > Hello Sam, > > (some postings above, you mentioned having but 2 GB RAM.) > > It is said that, for a 64bit system, one should have at > least 4 GB RAM installed. > I don't agree. I have 3GB RAM, for which 512MB is taken by video card, leaving me with 2.5GB RAM, and I'm

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On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 05:36:09PM -0500, Brad Alexander wrote: > Hi Sam, > > I'll throw in my 2 cents as well... > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Weaver wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 06:43:54 -0500 > > Sam Vagni wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > Hello Sam, > > > > > > I just wan

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On Jo, 24 nov 11, 12:50:47, Andrew Wood wrote: > > apt-get install packagename will download and install just the > package specified but the installation may fail if it depends on > other packages, or No it won't. > aptitude install packagename will do the same but also seamlessly > download &

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Hello Sam, (some postings above, you mentioned having but 2 GB RAM.) It is said that, for a 64bit system, one should have at least 4 GB RAM installed. greetings -- Education is a man's going from cocksure ignorance to thoughtful uncertainty. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ.

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On Friday 25 November 2011 17:27:00 Brad Alexander wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Lisi wrote: > > > A simple, accepting all defaults to make life easy, installation of > > > > Debian 6 > > > > > or higher will give you GNOME.  Anything else is more complex. > > > > That's right but plea

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On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:47:08 +, Andrew Wood wrote: > Adobes version of Flash was (when I downloaded it a month or so ago) 32 > bit which will run on a 64 bit OS BUT only with a 32 bit web browser so > you need to make sure you have the 32 bit version of Firefox. I made > that mistake:) Wrong

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On 24/11/11 18:45, Weaver wrote: It's good to go with, depending on what you're looking for. If you want to learn, there's no Linux distro better for the purpose, but an easier introduction could be by downloading and installing LMDE here: http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1818 which many are switchin

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On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 05:09:08 -0500 Sam Vagni wrote: > > What in fact is 'midnight commander', is it distro specific or > application or software...? Didn't get this pointIs it a file > manager like Nautilus or Dolpin (I heard of them...)? > It's an application for any Linux distribution. It

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Adobes version of Flash was (when I downloaded it a month or so ago) 32 bit which will run on a 64 bit OS BUT only with a 32 bit web browser so you need to make sure you have the 32 bit version of Firefox. I made that mistake:) There was a time when several things (like Flash!!) would not wor

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On 24/11/11 14:57, Sam Vagni wrote: Yeah sure, but it could really be silly but I don't know which graphics card/chips I am using...? Can you please tell me about it...But my speakers give sound whenever I play any song in Windows XP, however, I remember it used Real tek audio drivers when I inst

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On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 5:09 AM, Sam Vagni wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Weaver wrote: > > > > Hello Sam, > > Hello. > > > It's good to go with, depending on what you're looking for. > > If you want to learn, there's no Linux distro better for the purpose, > > but an easier introduc

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On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Sam Vagni wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Lisi wrote: > >> A simple, accepting all defaults to make life easy, installation of Debian 6 >> or higher will give you GNOME.  Anything else is more complex. > > That's right but please let me know 'Anything els

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On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:33 AM, John W. Foster wrote: > Hi Sam & welcome to the world of Linux. I have tried them all as well as > most versions of everything else out there that will run on my > machines..HeHe even Minuet. I just like to try out new stuff. However I > am not any kind of softwa

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On 2011-11-24 16:02, Walter Hurry wrote: > Ah, right, thanks. I didn't know that - I tend to stick with HP as I've > always had excellent results with their printers and HPLIP. I did the same for a long time, too. Finally I gave Epson a try and I like it, actually because of 1 special option (be

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--- On Thu, 11/24/11, Lisi wrote: > On Thursday 24 November 2011 19:47:01 Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Contrary to most of the recommendations you'll get > here (It's a Debian list > > after all), I highly suggest you go with PCLinuxOS > instead of Debian.  I > > ALWAYS recommend PCLinuxOS to Window

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32 vs 64 bit - I still use 32 bit because I care about ram more than processing. Second, I'd use linux in a vm if I were you actually I am doing this more and more now. For instance I've got ubuntu in a virtualbox installed at work (because putty sucks, cygwin is a pain, etc - yeah I just use

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Hi Sam, I'll throw in my 2 cents as well... On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Weaver wrote: > On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 06:43:54 -0500 > Sam Vagni wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > Hello Sam, > > > > I just want to go into Linux, coming from Windows XP. Just want to > > know if Debian is good to go wi

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On Thursday 24 November 2011 20:42:59 Walter Hurry wrote: > On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:24:34 +, Lisi wrote: > > On Thursday 24 November 2011 16:15:45 Walter Hurry wrote: > >> I see no reason for OP to avoid 64 bit Debian. > > > > Sorry - as usual I am not making myself clear. I am not suggesting t

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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:24:34 +, Lisi wrote: > On Thursday 24 November 2011 16:15:45 Walter Hurry wrote: >> I see no reason for OP to avoid 64 bit Debian. > > Sorry - as usual I am not making myself clear. I am not suggesting that > he should. I said that here would no doubt others who could

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On Thursday 24 November 2011 19:47:01 Patrick Bartek wrote: > Contrary to most of the recommendations you'll get here (It's a Debian list > after all), I highly suggest you go with PCLinuxOS instead of Debian.  I > ALWAYS recommend PCLinuxOS to Windows users making their first foray into > Linux te

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On Thursday 24 November 2011 16:15:45 Walter Hurry wrote: > I see no reason for OP to > avoid 64 bit Debian. Sorry - as usual I am not making myself clear. I am not suggesting that he should. I said that here would no doubt others who could better inform him of the pros and cons. All I was a

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On Thursday 24 November 2011 16:33:24 Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 24 Nov 2011, Lisi wrote: > > > but please tell me if KDE is the > > > default of GNOME is the default desktop for debian? > > > > GNOME is now the Debian default desktop. > > There are others, and of course you don't have to use a d

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--- On Thu, 11/24/11, Sam Vagni wrote: > I just want to go into Linux, coming from Windows XP. Just > want to > know if Debian is good to go with and learn then? > > Just to clear my doubts that head people saying about its' > non-compatibility with the newest hardware and not having > latest >

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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 06:43:54 -0500 Sam Vagni wrote: > Hello everyone, Hello Sam, > > I just want to go into Linux, coming from Windows XP. Just want to > know if Debian is good to go with and learn then? It's good to go with, depending on what you're looking for. If you want to learn, there's

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On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 06:43 -0500, Sam Vagni wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I just want to go into Linux, coming from Windows XP. Just want to > know if Debian is good to go with and learn then? > > Just to clear my doubts that head people saying about its' > non-compatibility with the newest hard

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On 24 Nov 2011, Lisi wrote: > > > but please tell me if KDE is the > > default of GNOME is the default desktop for debian? > > GNOME is now the Debian default desktop. > There are others, and of course you don't have to use a desktop manager at all. Quite a few people, me included, prefer to u

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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 15:50:31 +, Lisi wrote: > On Thursday 24 November 2011 14:57:06 Sam Vagni wrote: >> I guess I should go (of course) with 64 since my processor supports >> that (this I came to know).. > > There is no "of course". Sorry, I did not make myself clear. With a 64 > bit proces

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On Thursday 24 November 2011 14:57:06 Sam Vagni wrote: > I guess I should go (of course) with 64 since my processor supports > that (this I came to know).. There is no "of course". Sorry, I did not make myself clear. With a 64 bit processor, either a 32bit or 64bit system would work without pro

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On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:29:30AM -0500, Sam Vagni wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Walter Hurry > wrote: > > > By the sound of it, you want > amd64/bt-cd/debian-6.0.3-amd64-CD-1.iso.torrent> > > Well thanks, I would start its download, b

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On Thursday 24 November 2011 14:57:06 Sam Vagni wrote: > My printer is Samsung ML 1610. I'm pretty sure that that is one I have installed for someone else. I myself have the ML-1510, which is older, but similar. At one stage I had to use the "wrong" driver with a printer, I don't remember whic

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On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Walter Hurry wrote: > By the sound of it, you want amd64/bt-cd/debian-6.0.3-amd64-CD-1.iso.torrent> Well thanks, I would start its download, but why these CDs are numbered from 1 to some more than 40 or 50...why so m

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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:57:06 -0500, Sam Vagni wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Walter Hurry > wrote: > >> A little vague, I'm afraid. But not to worry, there are Linux >> applications for most things. By the way, I'd strongly recommend (with >> few exceptions) sticking to software which

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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 14:03:03 +, Lisi wrote: > On Thursday 24 November 2011 13:51:52 Walter Hurry wrote: >> As to the printer, you'll need to check the exact model, not just the >> brand. > > Samsung's splix can manage most Samsungs, just as HP's hpijs and hplip > can manage most HP printers.

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On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Walter Hurry wrote: > A little vague, I'm afraid. But not to worry, there are Linux > applications for most things. By the way, I'd strongly recommend (with > few exceptions) sticking to software which is in the repositories (which > are very comprehensive), rathe

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On Thursday 24 November 2011 13:51:52 Walter Hurry wrote: > As to the printer, you'll need to check the exact > model, not just the brand. Samsung's splix can manage most Samsungs, just as HP's hpijs and hplip can manage most HP printers. (But not necessarily all its all-in-ones.) Lisi -- To

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On Thursday 24 November 2011 13:25:28 Sam Vagni wrote: > Well this is true that the real power is in cli and not in gui There is no reason why you should not use GUI for some time if you are more comfortable with it. I have been using Linux for 7 years and am at home on the CLI, but there are

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2011/11/24 Sam Vagni : > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Walter Hurry wrote: > >> Debian is a fine distribution; but there are others too. By the way, of >> course people here will extol the virtues of Debian - it is a Debian >> mailing list after all. > > Ok, I see. That really I forgot to consi

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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:39:29 -0500, Sam Vagni wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Walter Hurry > wrote: > >> Debian is a fine distribution; but there are others too. By the way, of >> course people here will extol the virtues of Debian - it is a Debian >> mailing list after all. > > Ok, I

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On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Walter Hurry wrote: > Debian is a fine distribution; but there are others too. By the way, of > course people here will extol the virtues of Debian - it is a Debian > mailing list after all. Ok, I see. That really I forgot to consider...! After all a fact it is!

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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 06:43:54 -0500, Sam Vagni wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I just want to go into Linux, coming from Windows XP. Just want to know > if Debian is good to go with and learn then? > > Just to clear my doubts that head people saying about its' > non-compatibility with the newest har

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On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Olivier BATARD wrote: > Clearly, I will suggest you Debian. Opensuse is great, really, but use > rpm (AFAIK) and package and application managing can be a nightmare. > Globally to choose a first linux distribution, don't rely on the gui > or the screenshot you'll

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On 24/11/11 12:30, Sam Vagni wrote: Debian - yeas I heard of its rock solid stability! But I have not heard of newbies using it, seems typical for them, so as a newbie would it not be that difficult...? I am after all not a geek user! Probably because its not as well publicised as other distro

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2011/11/24 Sam Vagni : > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Olivier BATARD wrote: > >> To be clear, installing package is very useful with aptitude and >> generally apt. Try a man apt or a google search with apt and you'll >> see that's very easy and intuitive ! But remember even if there is >> some

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2011/11/24 Sam Vagni : > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Olivier BATARD wrote: > >> But to answer directly, yes debian is a good start because, in my >> opinion apt make the difference, the package manager is so useful. Try >> do install a vm with the squeeze net install cd >> http://www.debian.o

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On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Andrew Wood wrote: > Hi Sam Hello. > I would whole heartedly recommend Debian. The problem with the other distros > like Ubuntu, Fedora etc that try to be on the bleeding edge is that they > tend to be buggy (and often slower) and each time a new release come ou

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On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Olivier BATARD wrote: > But to answer directly, yes debian is a good start because, in my > opinion apt make the difference, the package manager is so useful. Try > do install a vm with the squeeze net install cd > http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst and feel fr

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Hi Sam I would whole heartedly recommend Debian. The problem with the other distros like Ubuntu, Fedora etc that try to be on the bleeding edge is that they tend to be buggy (and often slower) and each time a new release come out upgrading tends to break everything, and becasue they work on s

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2011/11/24 Sam Vagni : > Hello everyone, > > I just want to go into Linux, coming from Windows XP. Just want to > know if Debian is good to go with and learn then? Debian has a large community and a great development, testing and packaging organization. Ubuntu is great too by the way, maybe easier