Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-15 Thread David E. Fox
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:39:06 +0200 Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is just a consequence of the fact that the package "base-files" > (which contains /etc/debian_version) is the same for Unstable and I see. Thanks for the explanation, it makes sense now. > Florian --

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-15 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 11:27:50 -0700, David E. Fox wrote: > On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:05:08 -0400 Greg Folkert wrote: > > > "Lenny/Sid", it used to say "Etch/Sid" until about November of 2006. I > > am sure it will say Lenny/Sid until a few weeks until the (set, but not > > met) release of Lenny. >

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-15 Thread David E. Fox
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:30:41 GMT "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As it was explained to me, following an aptitude upgrade with aptitude > dist-upgrade solves this. Leave your sources.list as it is and do a OK, it seems to be installing those extras now. It seems aptitude dist-upgrade

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-15 Thread David E. Fox
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:05:08 -0400 Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Lenny/Sid", it used to say "Etch/Sid" until about November of 2006. I > am sure it will say Lenny/Sid until a few weeks until the (set, but not > met) release of Lenny. But what's the rationale behind that? I mean, at a

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-15 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 10:43:47AM -0700, "David E. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:08:06 +0200 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You really should be specific to which version you're running. If > > you're running Sarge, you won't be getting many up

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-14 Thread s. keeling
David E. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:08:06 +0200 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You really should be specific to which version you're running. If > > you're running Sarge, you won't be getting many updates, if you're > > A related observation/question. I hav

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-14 Thread David E. Fox
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 12:08:06 +0200 Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You really should be specific to which version you're running. If > you're running Sarge, you won't be getting many updates, if you're A related observation/question. I have been tracking 'etch' (as opposed to 'testing' for

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-13 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto � wrote: > On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 01:18:00PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: >> On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 08:46 -0400, Roberto C. S�nchez wrote: >>> I was told long ago (about four years ago now), by a friend whom I >>> consider to be very knowledgeabl

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-13 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 01:18:00PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 08:46 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > > > I was told long ago (about four years ago now), by a friend whom I > > consider to be very knowledgeable about Debian, that you can't run with > > just unstable in

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-13 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 08:46 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 08:27:59AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > You never really run just Sid. If you run Sid, then you run > > > testing/unstable (or lenny/sid in this case). This is because as > > > pa

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-13 Thread John Hasler
Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > I was told long ago (about four years ago now), by a friend whom I > consider to be very knowledgeable about Debian, that you can't run with > just unstable in your sources.list. I've been doing so for years. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-13 Thread charlie derr
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: You never really run just Sid. If you run Sid, then you run testing/unstable (or lenny/sid in this case). This is because as packages propagate from unstable to testing, then they are no longer in unstable. If you only have unstable in your sources.list, you will fin

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-13 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 08:27:59AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > You never really run just Sid. If you run Sid, then you run > > testing/unstable (or lenny/sid in this case). This is because as > > packages propagate from unstable to testing, then they are no longer in >

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-13 Thread Joey Hess
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > You never really run just Sid. If you run Sid, then you run > testing/unstable (or lenny/sid in this case). This is because as > packages propagate from unstable to testing, then they are no longer in > unstable. If you only have unstable in your sources.list, you wil

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-13 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 02:37:40AM +, s. keeling wrote: > Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > How did you end up with lenny/sid? > > Lenny is not Sid now. Sheesh. Don't further confuse the guy. > You never really run just Sid. If you run Sid, then you run testing/unstable (or

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-12 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 02:37:40 GMT "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:56:14PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:51:23PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:32:

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-12 Thread Steven R.
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 10:56:03PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > I know how to use APT, and I know exactly how to throw together > sources.list. I've upgraded into Lenny purposely, but I'm wondering if > there is some kind of reason it says SID when I get to the login screen > (My /etc/issue says

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-12 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 22:56 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > I don't think anybody is quite understanding my question. > > I know how to use APT, and I know exactly how to throw together > sources.list. I've upgraded into Lenny purposely, but I'm wondering if > there is some kind of reason it says S

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-12 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 02:37:40AM +, s. keeling wrote: > Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:56:14PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:51:23PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > >

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-12 Thread s. keeling
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:56:14PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:51:23PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:32:33AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > > > Joe Hart writes: > > > > > if you're running

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-12 Thread andy
Adam Hardy wrote: andy on 11/04/07 20:45, wrote: Adam Hardy wrote: andy on 11/04/07 20:12, wrote: John Hasler wrote: If I wanted to remain current (w/out being bleeding-edge ala Sid), would I now be adjusting my apt-sources-list to look for "testing" rather than "etch" as they do now? How

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-12 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Pobega wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 12:00:48AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 11:07:39PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:56:14PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Wed, Apr 11

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-12 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 12:00:48AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 11:07:39PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:56:14PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:51:23PM -04

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-12 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 07:14:00AM +0100, andy wrote: > So, for the benefit of this newbie: > > If I change my sources list to reflect "testing" rather than "etch", > will my system just automagically continue to upgrade itself? Will this > system - as it upgrades to Lenny - remain stable enoug

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 andy wrote: > Michael Pobega wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:56:14PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [snip] >>> if you're running Etch you won't be getting many, if you're running >>> Lenny >>> (which is kind of hard because AFAIK it

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-11 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 07:14 +0100, andy wrote: > So, for the benefit of this newbie: > > If I change my sources list to reflect "testing" rather than "etch", > will my system just automagically continue to upgrade itself? Yes. Just fine. There will be heartache from time to time, but it is *TESTI

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-11 Thread andy
Michael Pobega wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:56:14PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:51:23PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:32:33AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Joe Hart writes:

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 11:07:39PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:56:14PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:51:23PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:32:33AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > > > Joe Hart writes: > >

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-11 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 23:07 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:56:14PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:51:23PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:32:33AM -0500, Jo

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-11 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:56:14PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:51:23PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:32:33AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > > Joe Hart writes: > > > > if you're running Etc

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:51:23PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:32:33AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > Joe Hart writes: > > > if you're running Etch you won't be getting many, if you're running Lenny > > > (which is kind of hard because AFAIK it isn't all complete yet) >

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-11 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 08:32:33AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Joe Hart writes: > > if you're running Etch you won't be getting many, if you're running Lenny > > (which is kind of hard because AFAIK it isn't all complete yet) > > Lenny (Testing) is co

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-11 Thread Adam Hardy
andy on 11/04/07 20:45, wrote: Adam Hardy wrote: andy on 11/04/07 20:12, wrote: John Hasler wrote: If I wanted to remain current (w/out being bleeding-edge ala Sid), would I now be adjusting my apt-sources-list to look for "testing" rather than "etch" as they do now? How risky is this on a

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-11 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 20:45 +0100, andy wrote: > Adam, your response was quite provocative! > > While I am fascinated by computers and have enjoyed my forays into > programming and networking I cannot claim to be anything more than a > user who would prefer a trouble-free computing experience, b

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-11 Thread andy
Adam Hardy wrote: andy on 11/04/07 20:12, wrote: John Hasler wrote: Joe Hart writes: if you're running Etch you won't be getting many, if you're running Lenny (which is kind of hard because AFAIK it isn't all complete yet) Lenny (Testing) is complete. It just happens to be nearly id

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-11 Thread Adam Hardy
andy on 11/04/07 20:12, wrote: John Hasler wrote: Joe Hart writes: if you're running Etch you won't be getting many, if you're running Lenny (which is kind of hard because AFAIK it isn't all complete yet) Lenny (Testing) is complete. It just happens to be nearly identical to Etch at

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-11 Thread andy
John Hasler wrote: Joe Hart writes: if you're running Etch you won't be getting many, if you're running Lenny (which is kind of hard because AFAIK it isn't all complete yet) Lenny (Testing) is complete. It just happens to be nearly identical to Etch at the moment. Thanks steef, Jo

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-11 Thread John Hasler
Joe Hart writes: > if you're running Etch you won't be getting many, if you're running Lenny > (which is kind of hard because AFAIK it isn't all complete yet) Lenny (Testing) is complete. It just happens to be nearly identical to Etch at the moment. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 andy wrote: > I have noticed that for the last few days I have not been getting > software update notifications via the update manager. Is this because > Etch has been made stable? > > Thanks > > /@ > You really should be specific to which version

Re: Daily Updates

2007-04-10 Thread steef
andy wrote: I have noticed that for the last few days I have not been getting software update notifications via the update manager. Is this because Etch has been made stable? Thanks /@ yes, steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con