Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-13 Thread Weaver
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 07:40, Weaver wrote: >> Yes, it raises the point that some manufacturers achieve their hardware >> height and profile, not from the keyboard base, but from the different >> heights of keys on the different rows of a Qwerty. >> > > My current keyboard is built like that,

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-12 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 07:40, Weaver wrote: > Yes, it raises the point that some manufacturers achieve their hardware > height and profile, not from the keyboard base, but from the different > heights of keys on the different rows of a Qwerty. > My current keyboard is built like that, each row o

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-12 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 00:47, Dan Serban wrote: > If not using your own hardware, would that not be a detriment > after getting used to the MS Natural keyboard? > Not at all. The R in RSI is "repetitive", and the key to healing is to reduce repetitive tasks. So regularly switching keyboards help

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-11 Thread Weaver
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:46:47 -0800 > "Weaver" wrote: >> >From investigations so far. >> Advice from Daskeyboards support: >> >> "Thanks for your interest in Das Keyboard! >> >> The physical key caps cannot be rearranged into the Dvorak layout >> because >> each row has a different height and c

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Serban
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:46:47 -0800 "Weaver" wrote: > > > On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:06:48 +0200 > > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi wrote: > >> > On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote: > >> >> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existin

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-11 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Weaver [120112 02:56]: > Hello all. > I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater > typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed > moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak > keyboard into the system. > > Who mak

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Serban
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:07:44 + Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 10 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote: > > > That site is down at present. > > > > > > My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of > > > typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the > > > QW

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Serban
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:15:19 +0100 Andreas Weber wrote: > > My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of > > typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the > > QWERTY keyboard? > > No, it's not. Only if you always work on your own hardware. But as s

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-11 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 10 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote: > > That site is down at present. > > > > My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of > > typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the > > QWERTY keyboard? > > > > > > Well, I hope the site has become available

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-10 Thread Andreas Weber
> My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of > typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the > QWERTY keyboard? No, it's not. Only if you always work on your own hardware. But as soon as you have to touch different machines ... QWERT is everywhere

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-10 Thread Weaver
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:06:48 +0200 > Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi wrote: >> > On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote: >> >> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing >> keyboard >From investigations so far. Advice from Daskeyboard

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-10 Thread Dan Serban
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:06:48 +0200 Dotan Cohen wrote: > On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi wrote: > > On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote: > >> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard > > > > How do you do that?  I know that there used to be IBM key

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-10 Thread Dan Serban
On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:35:52 + Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 06 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800 > > "Weaver" wrote: > > > > > Hello all. > > > I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the > > > greater typing speed potential and lowr inc

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-10 Thread Weaver
> Hi Weaver, > > If you are curious about keyboard layouts then you might really enjoy > Dvorak. I have used Dvorak for about 8 years. It takes a while to get > rolling, but it has definitely been worth it. I feel like typing is a > much smoother activity now, and touch typing is easier. > > When

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 19:35, Anthony Campbell wrote: > My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of > typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the > QWERTY keyboard? > Probably not. Some people cite speed, others comfort as a reason. I'll tell you

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-09 Thread Rickard
Hi Weaver, If you are curious about keyboard layouts then you might really enjoy Dvorak. I have used Dvorak for about 8 years. It takes a while to get rolling, but it has definitely been worth it. I feel like typing is a much smoother activity now, and touch typing is easier. When I started out,

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-09 Thread Weaver
> On 06 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote: >> On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800 >> "Weaver" wrote: >> >> > Hello all. >> > I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the >> greater >> > typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed >> > moving from two finger

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-09 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 06 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800 > "Weaver" wrote: > > > Hello all. > > I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater > > typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed > > moving from two finger typing with

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-08 Thread T Elcor
--- On Sun, 1/7/12, Paul Johnson wrote: > > I like the app, I can certainly see improvement in my case. > > $ aptitude show klavaro > > Package: klavaro > > Version: 1.9.3-1 > It's a shame this doesn't support "USA Cherokee" layout. It supports custom layouts, select "Custom" as Keyboard, you

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 14:32, Camaleón wrote: > Mmm, are there different switches types for the same keyboard? > > (...) > > Wow, Internet says there are many colored pieces behaving differently! > Black, brown, white, clear, blue and red (it seems that red switches were > manufactured for the Asi

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-08 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 11:12:01 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:52, Camaleón wrote: >> I'm using a GD80-3000 (gold >> contact keys) and won't replace it for any other but I don't know if >> Cherry produces Dvorak keyboards :-? >> >> > If you mean G80-3000 then that is the keybo

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 12:52, Camaleón wrote: > I'm using a GD80-3000 (gold > contact keys) and won't replace it for any other but I don't know if > Cherry produces Dvorak keyboards :-? > If you mean G80-3000 then that is the keyboard that Das Keyboard is based on. Definitely one of the better ke

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi wrote: > On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote: >> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard > > How do you do that?  I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which you > could rearrange the keys, but I do not know

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, 2012-01-07 at 23:22 -0800, Weaver wrote: > > It's a shame this doesn't support "USA Cherokee" layout. > > > When I was reading their site yesterday, they made a point of feedback > being appreciated and wanting to implement new formats, so an approach in > that direction could be well in o

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:38:00 Aaron Toponce wrote: > Piano players do this all the time. off topic Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201201

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:29:07 Aaron Toponce wrote: > On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 11:22:09PM +, Lisi wrote: > > On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:15:01 Aaron Toponce wrote: > > > Competent musicians don't keep the notes on their instruments, > > > > What about incompetent musicians? > > Off-topi

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 19:39, Weaver wrote: > Hello all. > I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater > typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed > moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak > keyboard into the s

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread Weaver
> On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 21:57 -0800, T Elcor wrote: >> --- On Fri, 1/6/12, Weaver wrote: >> >> > You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively >> > pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your >> sound >> > card for those typing sessions. >> >> I'd

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread doug
On 01/07/2012 08:27 PM, green wrote: Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:38 -0600: On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 05:35:39PM -0600, green wrote: Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:15 -0600: Personally, I don't understand why there are any characters printed on the keys to begin with. I type fairl

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread green
Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:38 -0600: > On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 05:35:39PM -0600, green wrote: > > Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:15 -0600: > > > Personally, I don't understand why there are any characters printed on the > > > keys to begin with. > > > > I type fairly well with the D

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 05:35:39PM -0600, green wrote: > Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:15 -0600: > > Personally, I don't understand why there are any characters printed on the > > keys to begin with. > > I type fairly well with the Dvorak, but I *do* like the keys to be properly > labeled.

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread green
Aaron Toponce wrote at 2012-01-07 17:15 -0600: > Personally, I don't understand why there are any characters printed on the > keys to begin with. I type fairly well with the Dvorak, but I *do* like the keys to be properly labeled. Why? Because I occasionally hit a key or shortcut with one hand

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 11:22:09PM +, Lisi wrote: > On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:15:01 Aaron Toponce wrote: > > Competent musicians don't keep the notes on their instruments, > > What about incompetent musicians? Off-topic. -- . o . o . o . . o o . . . o . . . o . o o o . o .

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 07 January 2012 23:15:01 Aaron Toponce wrote: > Competent musicians don't keep the notes on their instruments, What about incompetent musicians? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:44:22PM +, Raf Czlonka wrote: > I guess I wasn't clear enough. This should have been: > What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard > and changing the layout at the same time (I'm aware it won't be 100%)? > This way one can try it out withou

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 21:57 -0800, T Elcor wrote: > --- On Fri, 1/6/12, Weaver wrote: > > > You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively > > pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound > > card for those typing sessions. > > I'd suggest kl

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 10:52:53AM GMT, Camaleón wrote: > I'm sure memorizing the keys or using a blank keyboard is an easy task > for professional typists :-) I disagree, you don't have to be a professional typist to memorise the keys on your keyboard. As long as you use a keyboard daily there's

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-07 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:51:39 +, Raf Czlonka wrote: > On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:37:16PM GMT, Camaleón wrote: >> That using a printed keyboard with a different layout (other than the >> one printed) is a completely mess unless you can memory the full keymap >> in your head and type without look

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread T Elcor
--- On Fri, 1/6/12, Weaver wrote: > You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively > pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound > card for those typing sessions. I'd suggest klavaro application to improve one's typing skills, it supports s

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread Weaver
> You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively > pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound > card for those typing sessions. Hit a wrong key, there's a backspace key > to use. This for sighted people just enables another learning channel

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread Jude DaShiell
You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound card for those typing sessions. Hit a wrong key, there's a backspace key to use. This for sighted people just enables another learning channel.On F

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread Weaver
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800 > "Weaver" wrote: > >> Hello all. >> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the >> greater >> typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed >> moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak >

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread Weaver
> On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 07:37:21PM GMT, Lisi wrote: >> On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote: >> > What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard >> >> How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which >> you >> could rearrange the ke

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread Weaver
> Weaver wrote at 2012-01-06 10:39 -0700: >> idea of implementing a Dvorak keyboard into the system. >> >> Who makes the best ones? >> Where can they be bought from. > > You can use any keyboard as Dvorak, but I prefer to have properly labeled > keys, and none of marker, paint, and stickers last l

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread Weaver
> On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:22:35 +, Raf Czlonka wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:39:03PM GMT, Weaver wrote: >>> Hello all. >>> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the >>> greater typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even >>> delayed moving fr

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread Dan Serban
On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800 "Weaver" wrote: > Hello all. > I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater > typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed > moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak > keyboard int

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread Lisi
On Friday 06 January 2012 20:07:57 Raf Czlonka wrote: > Model M keyboards as these are the ones you referring to, originally made > by IBM, are still widely available either from your local second hand > computer shop or from eBay or you can still buy them new from Unicomp. Thanks. Worth knowing!

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 07:37:21PM GMT, Lisi wrote: > On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote: > > What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard > > How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which you > could rearrange the keys, but I

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread Lisi
On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote: > What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard How do you do that? I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which you could rearrange the keys, but I do not know of any modern equivalent. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread green
Weaver wrote at 2012-01-06 10:39 -0700: > idea of implementing a Dvorak keyboard into the system. > > Who makes the best ones? > Where can they be bought from. You can use any keyboard as Dvorak, but I prefer to have properly labeled keys, and none of marker, paint, and stickers last long enough

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:37:16PM GMT, Camaleón wrote: > That using a printed keyboard with a different layout (other than the one > printed) is a completely mess unless you can memory the full keymap in > your head and type without looking at the keyboard. That's why I suggested a blank as it

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:32:06PM GMT, Lisi wrote: > On Friday 06 January 2012 18:22:35 Raf Czlonka wrote: > > What's wrong with simply using the existing keyboard with Dvorak layout? > > Because you wouldn't know where the letters are? I think that Weaver means a > physical keyboard, not the c

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:22:35 +, Raf Czlonka wrote: > On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:39:03PM GMT, Weaver wrote: >> Hello all. >> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the >> greater typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even >> delayed moving from two fi

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread Lisi
On Friday 06 January 2012 18:22:35 Raf Czlonka wrote: > What's wrong with simply using the existing keyboard with Dvorak layout? Because you wouldn't know where the letters are? I think that Weaver means a physical keyboard, not the choice of layout in your OS. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-06 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:39:03PM GMT, Weaver wrote: > Hello all. > I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater > typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed > moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak > keyboard i

Re: OT: Safe Type (was Re: DVORAK)

2005-06-08 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 09:43 -0700, Dave Carrigan wrote: --snip-- > The number pad is cumbersome. I'm an emacs guy, so I rarely use the > arrow keys anyway, but when I have to use them, it's a PITA. However, > that was easily solved for me by buying a USB number pad; it works fine > with X, and it e

Re: OT: Safe Type (was Re: DVORAK)

2005-06-08 Thread Dave Carrigan
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 06:53:23PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote: > How does the safe type feel for you? As I say, it's the only way I can type comfortably for longer than an hour or so. I've used many other keyboards - plain flat ones, low-end ergonomic ones and high-end ergonomic ones like the

OT: Safe Type (was Re: DVORAK)

2005-06-07 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 08:43 -0700, Dave Carrigan wrote: --snip-- > Dunno. I use a Safeytpe; any keyboard that requires me to rotate my hands > even semi-flat exacerbates the tendinitis to the point where I can't type > after an hour or two. With a Safetype, I can type all day, but you pretty > much

Re: DVORAK

2005-06-07 Thread Steve Lamb
Clinton V. Weiss wrote: How effective is Dvorak in programming enviroments? Particularly Java, are the key layouts any better? Speed in programming is more a function of the language you use and the tools with which you program said language. A cheap explination, whom do you think would

Re: DVORAK, reptitive stress

2005-06-07 Thread Alban Browaeys
Le Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:32:33 -0400, Michael Z Daryabeygi a écrit : > Has there been some scientific study that shows that dvorak somehow > redistributes the "load" so as to cause less strain? I doubt it, it is > the same mechanics, I don't believe that the problem is a pattern of the > keystr

Re: DVORAK

2005-06-07 Thread Dave Carrigan
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:57:30PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > Questions for you and others now using Dvorak: I could change my own keyboard > to whatever I want, but I know I'll still have to use other keyboards, and > I've been using QWERTY for close to 30 years. So: > > 1) How hard is it to

Re: DVORAK

2005-06-07 Thread Dave Carrigan
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:41:09PM -0500, Steve Block wrote: > a) the myth that qwerty was designed to slow you down is a lie. qwerty > was designed to keep mechanical keys from binding, which is more layout > related than speed related. Maybe, maybe not. However, I do type faster on Dvorak than

Re: DVORAK

2005-06-06 Thread Conrad Newton
>From Hal Vaughan on Monday, 2005-06-06 at 21:57:30 -0400: > On Monday 06 June 2005 09:48 pm, p wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 03:46:01PM -0600, Cam wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > So after a few years of hearing of the DVORAK layout (and noticing > > > that it seems like my left hand is doing all

Re: DVORAK

2005-06-06 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 10:17:26PM -0400, Clinton V. Weiss wrote: > > How effective is Dvorak in programming enviroments? Particularly Java, are > the > key layouts any better? > No more or less effective than anything else. Its effectiveness is a function of *how* you type, not what you typ

Re: DVORAK

2005-06-06 Thread Clinton V. Weiss
Cam wrote: Hi, So after a few years of hearing of the DVORAK layout (and noticing that it seems like my left hand is doing all the work w/ QWERTY), i'd like to try to make the switch... here's my major concern though (and perhaps this isn't really an issue, i'd like to hear the advice from other

Re: DVORAK

2005-06-06 Thread Brian Nelson
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:57:30PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > Questions for you and others now using Dvorak: I could change my own keyboard > to whatever I want, but I know I'll still have to use other keyboards, and > I've been using QWERTY for close to 30 years. So: > > 1) How hard is it to

Re: DVORAK, reptitive stress

2005-06-06 Thread Michael Z Daryabeygi
I've never used Dvorak and I was never properly trained to touch type. But after sitting at a computer 40 hours a week for two years, I finally began to look away from the keyboard. And my typing speed just gets faster with time. Bottom line, familiarity is what gives you speed. Well, if you d

Re: DVORAK

2005-06-06 Thread David P James
On Mon 6 June 2005 21:57, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > Questions for you and others now using Dvorak: I could change my own > keyboard to whatever I want, but I know I'll still have to use other > keyboards, and I've been using QWERTY for close to 30 years. So: > > 1) How hard is it to change over?, I

Re: DVORAK

2005-06-06 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:57:30PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > Questions for you and others now using Dvorak: I could change my own keyboard > to whatever I want, but I know I'll still have to use other keyboards, and > I've been using QWERTY for close to 30 years. So: > > 1) How hard is it

Re: DVORAK

2005-06-06 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:41:09PM -0500, Steve Block wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 03:46:01PM -0600, Cam wrote: > > d) the myth that dvorak is faster than qwerty is just that, as any > decent amount of searching will show. > Your statement is the myth. Having learned to properly type on both

Re: DVORAK

2005-06-06 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 06 June 2005 09:48 pm, p wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 03:46:01PM -0600, Cam wrote: > > Hi, > > > > So after a few years of hearing of the DVORAK layout (and noticing > > that it seems like my left hand is doing all the work w/ QWERTY), i'd > > like to try to make the switch... here's

Re: DVORAK

2005-06-06 Thread Steve Block
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 03:46:01PM -0600, Cam wrote: Hi, So after a few years of hearing of the DVORAK layout (and noticing that it seems like my left hand is doing all the work w/ QWERTY), i'd like to try to make the switch... here's my major concern though (and perhaps this isn't really an iss

Re: DVORAK

2005-06-06 Thread p
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 03:46:01PM -0600, Cam wrote: > Hi, > > So after a few years of hearing of the DVORAK layout (and noticing > that it seems like my left hand is doing all the work w/ QWERTY), i'd > like to try to make the switch... here's my major concern though (and > perhaps this isn't rea

Re: DVORAK

2005-06-06 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 03:46:01PM -0600, Cam wrote: > Hi, > > So after a few years of hearing of the DVORAK layout (and noticing > that it seems like my left hand is doing all the work w/ QWERTY), i'd > like to try to make the switch... here's my major concern though (and > perhaps this isn't rea

Re: dvorak keyboard

2003-11-12 Thread Jesse Meyer
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > i've been getting enough questions off-list (of a few lists, not just > this one) about my experiences with the dvorak keyboard layout that i > finally wrote them up: > > http://www.maenad.net/geek/dvorak/ > > in case anyone's interested. http://ww

Re: dvorak keyboard

2003-11-11 Thread p
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 04:56:40PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > i've been getting enough questions off-list (of a few lists, not just > this one) about my experiences with the dvorak keyboard layout that i > finally wrote them up: > > http://www.maenad.net/geek/dvorak/ > > in case anyone's in

Re: Dvorak keyboard layout

2000-07-30 Thread Krzys Majewski
On the console, loadkeys /usr/local/share/keymaps/dvorak.map although the location of this file seems to have changed at some point. It used to be /usr/lib/kbd/keytables/dvorak.map. In X, you'll need put the appropriate file in ~/.Xmodmap. I'll attach one here, hope nobody minds.. ! ! This

Re: Dvorak keyboard layout

2000-07-29 Thread Mike Brownlow
John S. J. Anderson wrote: > > "Owen" == Owen G Emry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Owen> Can someone tell me how to switch to the Dvorak keyboard layout? > Owen> I dimly recall the debian boot diskette asking to choose a > Owen> keyboard layout, but I don't know how to change it on an > Owen

Re: Dvorak keyboard layout

2000-07-29 Thread Brendan Cully
On Saturday, 29 July 2000 at 21:19, John S. J. Anderson wrote: > > "Owen" == Owen G Emry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Owen> Can someone tell me how to switch to the Dvorak keyboard layout? > Owen> I dimly recall the debian boot diskette asking to choose a > Owen> keyboard layout, but I don'

Re: Dvorak keyboard layout

2000-07-29 Thread John S. J. Anderson
> "Owen" == Owen G Emry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Owen> Can someone tell me how to switch to the Dvorak keyboard layout? Owen> I dimly recall the debian boot diskette asking to choose a Owen> keyboard layout, but I don't know how to change it on an Owen> installed system. The answers from o

Re: Dvorak keyboard layout

2000-07-29 Thread Joey Tsai
> Can someone tell me how to switch to the Dvorak keyboard layout? I dimly > recall the debian boot diskette asking to choose a keyboard layout, but I > don't know how to change it on an installed system. To change your default layout, use "kbdconfig". You have to be root. If you just want to s

Re: Dvorak keyboard layout

2000-07-29 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 06:45:23PM -0400, Owen G. Emry wrote: > Can someone tell me how to switch to the Dvorak keyboard layout? I > dimly recall the debian boot diskette asking to choose a keyboard > layout, but I don't know how to change it on an installed system. kbconfig -- According to Meg

Re: Dvorak keyboard in X?

1998-06-19 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Fri, Jun 19, 1998 at 02:00:33PM -0700, Keith Beattie wrote: > Ian Keith Setford wrote: > > > > I was wondering if the current xbase has support for a "dvorak" type > > keyboard. If so, is it an option within xf86config? > > > [snip] > Perhaps there is another way to compensate for a "Dvoraked

Re: Dvorak keyboard in X?

1998-06-19 Thread Keith Beattie
Ian Keith Setford wrote: > > I was wondering if the current xbase has support for a "dvorak" type > keyboard. If so, is it an option within xf86config? > If your "Dvorak" type keyboard is one that was made specifically to have the Dvorak layout, then there shouldn't be any problems - the keyboar

Re: Dvorak keybindings in X

1998-02-26 Thread Adam Shand
> > A question on behalf of a friend. We have the dvorak key bindings working > > fine in console mode but can't get them to work under X. > > How did you do that? it's an installation option. i can't remember what the name of the executable is if you want to run it again, but it walks you thr

Re: Dvorak keybindings in X

1998-02-25 Thread Keith Beattie
Adam Shand wrote: > > A question on behalf of a friend. We have the dvorak key bindings working > fine in console mode but can't get them to work under X. How did you do that? > > Can anyone point me in the right direction to get this to work under X as > well? > One way is to use xmodmap, t