Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-29 Thread cothrige
* Steve Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Play on words, "holding it to one self" and "holding views". Point being > that not everyone is using Debian for the same reason and the rabidness that > some of the radical views are presented are quite off-putting. Not everyone > is rabidly anti-

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-29 Thread Steve Lamb
cothrige wrote: > I don't really follow you here. How does holding imply not talking? > Surely you don't make a habit of talking about topics you don't hold > views on? ;-) Play on words, "holding it to one self" and "holding views". Point being that not everyone is using Debian for the same

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-29 Thread Marty
Steve Lamb wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: If people around here (and elsewhere) would quit treating Linux/GNU project as if it were a religion, a political statement, a way to change the world paradigm, a poke in the eye at the mythically evil MicroSoft Empire, an end to capitalism as we know it, an

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-28 Thread cothrige
* Steve Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > cothrige wrote: > > Is this really "off putting"? Why? Maybe I am just not really seeing > > what is meant here, but I cannot recall a single instance of being > > bothered because somebody held a particular view concerning the > > political or philosophi

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-28 Thread Pollywog
On Sunday 29 October 2006 04:01, Steve Lamb wrote: > cothrige wrote: > > Is this really "off putting"? Why? Maybe I am just not really seeing > > what is meant here, but I cannot recall a single instance of being > > bothered because somebody held a particular view concerning the > > political or

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
cothrige wrote: > Is this really "off putting"? Why? Maybe I am just not really seeing > what is meant here, but I cannot recall a single instance of being > bothered because somebody held a particular view concerning the > political or philosophical nature of GNU or Linux. Holding? No. Sh

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-28 Thread cothrige
* Steve Lamb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Mike McCarty wrote: > > If people around here (and elsewhere) would quit treating Linux/GNU > > project as if it were a religion, a political statement, a way to > > change the world paradigm, a poke in the eye at the mythically evil > > MicroSoft Empire, a

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Mike McCarty wrote: > If people around here (and elsewhere) would quit treating Linux/GNU > project as if it were a religion, a political statement, a way to > change the world paradigm, a poke in the eye at the mythically evil > MicroSoft Empire, an end to capitalism as we know it, and a triumph >

Re: Community hostility

2006-10-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Miles Bader wrote: > Indeed. A simple "No" would suffice. It rarely does because for it to suffice the newcomer would have to leave it at that. They, at least in my experience, never do. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 |

Re: Community hostility

2006-10-26 Thread Miles Bader
Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's sad when a newcomer to the list asks whether the list managers > might change the list to make the Reply-to: field be the list itself, > and a flame war erupts. Indeed. A simple "No" would suffice. -Miles -- Saa, shall we dance? (from a dance-cla

Re: Community hostility

2006-10-26 Thread Miles Bader
Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's sad when a newcomer to the list asks whether the list managers > might change the list to make the Reply-to: field be the list itself, > and a flame war erupts. Indeed. A simple "No" would suffice. -Miles -- Saa, shall we dance? (from a dance-cla

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Bruno Buys wrote: To be honest, Mike and all others, the hostility in this list was worse in the past. I felt some improvement in this respect. I don't follow other linux lists to be able to compare, but in forums certainly there are competition and hostility, so I don't think debian is a specia

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-26 Thread Bruno Buys
Mike McCarty wrote: > Kent West wrote: > >> Mike McCarty wrote: >> >>> If people around here (and elsewhere) would quit treating Linux/GNU >>> project as if it were a religion, a political statement, a way to >>> change the world paradigm, a poke in the eye at the mythically evil >>> MicroSoft Emp

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-26 Thread Kent West
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: later taters Mmmm, taters -- Kent begin:vcard fn:Kent West n:West;Kent org:Abilene Christian University;Technology Support adr:;;ACU Box 29005;Abilene;TX;79699;USA email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:UNIX System Administrator tel;work:325-674-2557 tel;

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-26 Thread Mike McCarty
Kent West wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: If people around here (and elsewhere) would quit treating Linux/GNU project as if it were a religion, a political statement, a way to change the world paradigm, a poke in the eye at the mythically evil MicroSoft Empire, an end to capitalism as we know it, an

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
T.J. Duchene wrote: <> > > I'm going to delibrately make a few comments now, and if everyone gets > upset, so be it. <> Any group of people will end up arguing about stuff. Its the nature of the beast. Frankly, though most of the arguing is off-topic, the fact that people here argue is a good th

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-26 Thread Kent West
Mike McCarty wrote: If people around here (and elsewhere) would quit treating Linux/GNU project as if it were a religion, a political statement, a way to change the world paradigm, a poke in the eye at the mythically evil MicroSoft Empire, an end to capitalism as we know it, and a triumph of the

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-26 Thread Mike McCarty
T.J. Duchene wrote: I'd like to start by applauding your effort to spread some oil on these waters. What follows is the $0.02 USD worth of commentary of one who has essentially abandoned contributing in whatever small way he did to this mail list. Steve, I'm sorry if you took my comments the

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-26 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 09:45:34AM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: > Nothing on these lists is a personal attack, and it gets so tiresome to > see all this hostility all the time. Honestly, that's one of the > greatest problems with Debian or any other list. You make a comment, > and the next thing

Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

2006-10-26 Thread Tim Post
On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 09:45 -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: > > Nothing on these lists is a personal attack, and it gets so tiresome to > see all this hostility all the time. Honestly, that's one of the > greatest problems with Debian or any other list. You make a comment, > and the next thing you g