Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/13/2024 07:03 AM, George at Clug wrote: On Friday, 13-09-2024 at 20:17 Richard Owlett wrote: On 09/13/2024 03:56 AM, Hans wrote: Hi Richard, exchanging the keyboard yourself might be not a great thing. If it is not an apple computer, where you have to strip the whole computer, most key

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-13 Thread George at Clug
On Friday, 13-09-2024 at 20:17 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 09/13/2024 03:56 AM, Hans wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > > > exchanging the keyboard yourself might be not a great thing. If it is not an > > apple computer, where you have to strip the whole computer, most keyboards > > are > > very simple

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/13/2024 03:56 AM, Hans wrote: Hi Richard, exchanging the keyboard yourself might be not a great thing. If it is not an apple computer, where you have to strip the whole computer, most keyboards are very simple to echange.[snip] ROFL The keyboard is not the only problem. I was an electron

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-13 Thread Hans
Hi Richard, exchanging the keyboard yourself might be not a great thing. If it is not an apple computer, where you have to strip the whole computer, most keyboards are very simple to echange. There are often some videos on youtube, which show, how to do it. On most, there are 1 - 3 screws to

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-13 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/12/2024 08:35 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 09/12/2024 07:13 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: i Ricard, It has a keyboard failure - the "h" key is intermittent and my primary account is "Richard" ;/ [ I presume you know tat tis kind of failure can often (sadly not    always) be fixed by cleani

KDE, switching users (was: Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64)

2024-09-12 Thread Max Nikulin
On 12/09/2024 21:54, Hans wrote: If someone might also confirm of this little bug I mentioned here and knows better than me, he may just file a little bugreport to the developers of KDE. Maybe he also nows a little workaround??? [Ctrl+Alt+F8], [Ctrl+Alt+F7] work fine for me to switch between u

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/12/2024 09:54 AM, Hans wrote: Didn't seem to work on 2 machines using different flavors of Debian. Where is that documented so I can run a verifiable test? You are right. I rechecked this and it does not work correctly, because of a bug in KDE. The problem is, when

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/12/2024 08:40 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 08:35:25AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] Relevant man page to have 'root' edit a user's login name? See usermod, option -l. The wording of the text under that option does not give a "warm fuzzy" feeling that I un

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread Hans
> Didn't seem to work on 2 machines using different flavors of Debian. > Where is that documented so I can run a verifiable test? You are right. I rechecked this and it does not work correctly, because of a bug in KDE. The problem is, when starting another session, your for

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/12/2024 08:50 AM, Joe wrote: On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:35:25 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: Relevant man page to have 'root' edit a user's login name? TIA Looks like usermod, according to the first page Google shows for: debian change user name https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-ch

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/12/2024 09:14 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 14:50:23 +0100, Joe wrote: On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:35:25 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: Relevant man page to have 'root' edit a user's login name? Looks like usermod, according to the first page Google shows for: debian chan

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 14:50:23 +0100, Joe wrote: > On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:35:25 -0500 > Richard Owlett wrote: > > Relevant man page to have 'root' edit a user's login name? > > > Looks like usermod, according to the first page Google shows for: > debian change user name I prefer vipw(8). Bu

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/12/2024 08:03 AM, Hans wrote: Solves wrong problem ;} I couldn't log in as "Richard" at power-up. But Stefan hints at solution to that problem. Ah, ok, you are in X. Do you now, you can start a second windowmanager as root without logoff as the other user? If doing so, you can switch bet

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/12/2024 07:17 AM, Felix Miata wrote: Richard Owlett composed on 2024-09-12 06:43 (UTC-0500): I have a Lenovo R61 running 64 bit Buster. It has a keyboard failure - the "h" key is intermittent and my primary account is "Richard" ;/ Instead of a band aid, attack the keyboard with high PSI

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 08:35:25AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > Relevant man page to have 'root' edit a user's login name? See usermod, option -l. Heed the caveats in the man page (and all other places where the user name might be hidden). Sounds like some fun. (Of course you could ju

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/12/2024 07:13 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: i Ricard, It has a keyboard failure - the "h" key is intermittent and my primary account is "Richard" ;/ [ I presume you know tat tis kind of failure can often (sadly not always) be fixed by cleaning. ] I have other symptoms that hint that t

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread Hans
> Solves wrong problem ;} > I couldn't log in as "Richard" at power-up. > But Stefan hints at solution to that problem. Ah, ok, you are in X. Do you now, you can start a second windowmanager as root without logoff as the other user? If doing so, you can switch between both with "CTL + ALT + F7"

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/12/2024 06:59 AM, Hans wrote: Hi Richard, Am Donnerstag, 12. September 2024, 13:43:49 CEST schrieb Richard Owlett: I have a Lenovo R61 running 64 bit Buster. It has a keyboard failure - the "h" key is intermittent and my primary account is "Richard" ;/ I have no problem logging in as roo

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread Felix Miata
Richard Owlett composed on 2024-09-12 06:43 (UTC-0500): > I have a Lenovo R61 running 64 bit Buster. > It has a keyboard failure - the "h" key is intermittent and my primary > account is "Richard" ;/ Instead of a band aid, attack the keyboard with high PSI compressed air and/or vacuum cleaner wh

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
i Ricard, > It has a keyboard failure - the "h" key is intermittent and my primary > account is "Richard" ;/ [ I presume you know tat tis kind of failure can often (sadly not always) be fixed by cleaning. ] > I have no problem logging in as root. > > Two primary questions: > 1. is there somew

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread Hans
I have a Lenovo T520. From time to time (but very seldom), the whole keyboard is no more working (just hangs). It is a problem with X, maybe related to the NVidia driver. In these rare cases I connect a wireless keyboard to the notebook (put the dongle into an usb port) and can go on on typing.

Re: Circumventing keyboard problem on Lenovo R64

2024-09-12 Thread Hans
Hi Richard, Am Donnerstag, 12. September 2024, 13:43:49 CEST schrieb Richard Owlett: > I have a Lenovo R61 running 64 bit Buster. > It has a keyboard failure - the "h" key is intermittent and my primary > account is "Richard" ;/ > > I have no problem logging in as root. > > Two primary questions