Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-09 Thread Paul Johnson
Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 07:34:32PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: >> Hi Toshiro >> I'm on ppc Debian. >> >> On Mon, 2004-04-05 at 00:50, Toshiro wrote: >> > I'm running sid and I can login to root from the console but when I try to >> > startx if fails,

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-09 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 07:34:32PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > Hi Toshiro > I'm on ppc Debian. > > On Mon, 2004-04-05 at 00:50, Toshiro wrote: > > I'm running sid and I can login to root from the console but when I try to > > startx if fails, the same happens with the graphical login manage

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-09 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 19:34, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > Hi Toshiro > I'm on ppc Debian. > > On Mon, 2004-04-05 at 00:50, Toshiro wrote: > > I'm running sid and I can login to root from the console but when I try to > > startx if fails, the same happens with the graphical login manager. I don't >

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-09 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Hi Toshiro I'm on ppc Debian. On Mon, 2004-04-05 at 00:50, Toshiro wrote: > I'm running sid and I can login to root from the console but when I try to > startx if fails, the same happens with the graphical login manager. I don't > have any problem using a normal user. > > Anybody know what's th

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-07 Thread Will Trillich
On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 03:14:56PM -0500, dircha wrote: > Pass rm the '-i' option to be prompted at each removal. > > Or put in your .bashrc the alias: > alias rm='rm -i' sounds like a great idea until you get used to it and then EXPECT it when you're on someone else's system. Much Badness that w

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-06 Thread Leo Spalteholz
On April 6, 2004 12:56 pm, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from David Baron: > > On Tuesday 06 April 2004 00:04, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > wrote: > > > First I want to confess that I work all the time as root since my > > > beginning of using Linux (I forgot when this was). > > > > So do I. This i

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-06 Thread Leo Spalteholz
On April 5, 2004 10:34 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > "Jaap Haitsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> > I'm running sid and I can login to root from the console but when > >>> > I > >>> > >>> try > >>> > >>> > to startx if fails, the same happens with the graphical login > >>> > manager. > >>> > >>> I

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-06 Thread Leo Spalteholz
On April 5, 2004 05:45 am, John Hasler wrote: > Leo Spalteholz writes: > > So there was no (easy) way to execute a graphical application as > > root... > > There is no good reason to do so and good reason not to do so. Uh.. What are you talking about? Lots of graphical applications need to be ex

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-06 Thread Ciaran Johnston
On Mon 05 Apr 2004 11:07, Jaap Haitsma wrote: > > I can start x application if I login as myself and then do su -m, but if I > do a su - it says it cannot open the display. Any idea how I have to set > it up to get it working. My Debian box here doesn't have X, but does $ xhost + localhost as the

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-06 Thread dircha
David Baron wrote: Second it's ten times easier to mess your system in console mode ("rm * test" instead of "rm *test" comes to mind). True nuff! Pass rm the '-i' option to be prompted at each removal. Or put in your .bashrc the alias: alias rm='rm -i' Or make a user .trash directory in /tmp and w

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-06 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from David Baron: > On Tuesday 06 April 2004 00:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > First I want to confess that I work all the time as root since my > > beginning of using Linux (I forgot when this was). > > > So do I. This is because I erroneously set up everthing there. I am still > tr

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-06 Thread David Baron
On Tuesday 06 April 2004 00:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > First I want to confess that I work all the time as root since my > beginning of using Linux (I forgot when this was). > So do I. This is because I erroneously set up everthing there. I am still trying to coax KDE into letting me simply m

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-06 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 10:11:48PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > But sometimes you actually want to do something that could be > construed as destructive. :-) I saw a TV programme of hidden-camera footage the other day... this bloke in an office started pounding on the keyboard with his fists, t

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-05 Thread Paul Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss) writes: >> Jaap Haitsma wrote: >> [] >> this is the same reason as you shouldn't work as root. In GUI is much >> easier to mess up the system (oh, ie drag&drop /etc into trash comes to >> mind). And you can get used to work as root in GUI. So better is su or >> sudo t

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-05 Thread Otto Wyss
> Jaap Haitsma wrote: > [] > this is the same reason as you shouldn't work as root. In GUI is much > easier to mess up the system (oh, ie drag&drop /etc into trash comes to > mind). And you can get used to work as root in GUI. So better is su or > sudo things you need than work as root all the time

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-05 Thread Paul Johnson
"Jaap Haitsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> > I'm running sid and I can login to root from the console but when I >>> try >>> > to startx if fails, the same happens with the graphical login manager. >>> I >>> > don't have any problem using a normal user. >>> > >>> > Anybody know what's the prob

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-05 Thread Christopher J. Noyes
pril 05, 2004 09:18 AM Subject: Re: Can't use GUI as root > Jaap Haitsma wrote: > > Blame my ignorance but what's the bad thing of starting an x application > > under the root account? > > X applications are not secure enough to be run as root. > > > It works f

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-05 Thread John Hasler
Jaap Haitsma wrote: > Blame my ignorance but what's the bad thing of starting an x application > under the root account? X applications are not secure enough to be run as root. > It works fine in other distros I used to use. Other distros are more interested in sales than security. -- John Hasl

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-05 Thread John Hasler
Leo Spalteholz writes: > So there was no (easy) way to execute a graphical application as root... There is no good reason to do so and good reason not to do so. > ...I was prevented from doing with no explanation. A bug. An explanation should be provided. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-05 Thread Kent West
Michal R. Hoffmann wrote: Jaap Haitsma wrote: Blame my ignorance but what's the bad thing of starting an x application under the root account? It works fine in other distros I used to use. this is the same reason as you shouldn't work as root. In GUI is much easier to mess up the system (oh, i

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-05 Thread Michal R. Hoffmann
Jaap Haitsma wrote: [] I can start x application if I login as myself and then do su -m, but if I do a su - it says it cannot open the display. Any idea how I have to set it up to get it working. AFAIR, you should (as logged user): $ export XAUTHORITY=~/.XAuthority you can put this to your login sc

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-05 Thread Jaap Haitsma
>> > I'm running sid and I can login to root from the console but when I >> try >> > to startx if fails, the same happens with the graphical login manager. >> I >> > don't have any problem using a normal user. >> > >> > Anybody know what's the problem? >> >> Problem exists between keyboard and chai

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-04 Thread Toshiro
> > I'm running sid and I can login to root from the console but when I try > > to startx if fails, the same happens with the graphical login manager. I > > don't have any problem using a normal user. > > > > Anybody know what's the problem? > > Problem exists between keyboard and chair. Don't log

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-04 Thread Leo Spalteholz
On April 4, 2004 05:47 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: > Toshiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm running sid and I can login to root from the console but when I > > try to startx if fails, the same happens with the graphical login > > manager. I don't have any problem using a normal user. > > > > Anybo

Re: Can't use GUI as root

2004-04-04 Thread Paul Johnson
Toshiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm running sid and I can login to root from the console but when I try to > startx if fails, the same happens with the graphical login manager. I don't > have any problem using a normal user. > > Anybody know what's the problem? Problem exists between keyb