On Fri 06 Oct 2017 at 09:03:05 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 08:35:22PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 05 Oct 2017 at 08:55:33 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 07:23:51PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > > Well, thank you. But this doesn't
On Fri 06 Oct 2017 at 01:22:18 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 05 October 2017 22:56:33 David Wright wrote:
> > One advantage of Powerlines is that they aren't bothered by
> > microwaves which knock out nearby 2GHz devices.
>
> As in cooking microwaves? If its leaking that badly, have
On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 08:35:22PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 05 Oct 2017 at 08:55:33 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 07:23:51PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > Well, thank you. But this doesn't explain the paragraph above my comment.
> > > I'm just trying to und
On Thursday 05 October 2017 22:56:33 David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 21:56:13 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 04 October 2017 20:23:51 David Wright wrote:
> > > On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 18:14:12 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 04 October 2017 14:35:25 David
On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 21:56:13 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 October 2017 20:23:51 David Wright wrote:
>
> > On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 18:14:12 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 04 October 2017 14:35:25 David Wright wrote:
> > > > As I just posted, I thought the OP was
On Thu 05 Oct 2017 at 08:55:33 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 07:23:51PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > Well, thank you. But this doesn't explain the paragraph above my comment.
> > I'm just trying to understand the suggestions being made by more
> > experienced folk here,
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 07:23:51PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> Well, thank you. But this doesn't explain the paragraph above my comment.
> I'm just trying to understand the suggestions being made by more
> experienced folk here, like Reco and Greg.
My rationale is that having access to the Intern
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 03:57:33PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> On 10/04/2017 11:13 AM, Reco wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 02:08:17PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:59:46PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:59:04AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> >
On Wednesday 04 October 2017 20:23:51 David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 18:14:12 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 04 October 2017 14:35:25 David Wright wrote:
> > > On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 13:21:02 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:59:04AM -0500,
On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 18:14:12 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 04 October 2017 14:35:25 David Wright wrote:
>
> > On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 13:21:02 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:59:04AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > > On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 09:11:37 (+03
On 10/04/2017 11:13 AM, Reco wrote:
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 02:08:17PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:59:46PM +0300, Reco wrote:
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:59:04AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 09:11:37 (+0300), Reco wrote:
A correct way to fix this
On Wednesday 04 October 2017 14:35:25 David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 13:21:02 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:59:04AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 09:11:37 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > > > A correct way to fix this is to "persuade" yo
Hi.
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 12:54:46PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> On 10/04/2017 10:59 AM, Reco wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:59:04AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 09:11:37 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > > > Hi.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oc
On 10/04/2017 10:59 AM, Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:59:04AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 09:11:37 (+0300), Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 01:30:11PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
OK Rico> I followed your instructions and still have the s
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 01:30:21PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 21:13:51 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 02:08:17PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:59:46PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:59:04AM -0500, David
On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 13:21:02 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:59:04AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 09:11:37 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > > A correct way to fix this is to "persuade" your DHCP server not to
> > > provide DNS information.
> > > Even mor
On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 21:13:51 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 02:08:17PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:59:46PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:59:04AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > > On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 09:11:37 (+0300), Reco wro
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 02:08:17PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:59:46PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:59:04AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > > On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 09:11:37 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > > > A correct way to fix this is to "persuade" your
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:59:46PM +0300, Reco wrote:
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:59:04AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 09:11:37 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> A correct way to fix this is to "persuade" your DHCP server not to
> provide DNS information.
> Even more correct way is to fo
Hi.
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:59:04AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 09:11:37 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 01:30:11PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> > > OK Rico> I followed your instructions and still have the same problem.
> > > Attach
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:59:04AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 09:11:37 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> > A correct way to fix this is to "persuade" your DHCP server not to
> > provide DNS information.
> > Even more correct way is to force your DNS-at-DHCP to use 8.8.8.8 as
> > forwar
On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 09:11:37 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 01:30:11PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> > OK Rico> I followed your instructions and still have the same problem.
> > Attached are the new files. Already installed were isc-dhcp-client and
> > resolvconf. You
On Wed 04 Oct 2017 at 08:38:10 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 04:47:35PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> > Symptoms: Any package that needs access to the network sends an error
> > message indicating that it doesn't have access to the internet. Ping doesn't
> > work for names bu
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:55:51AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> If you are not using resolvconf, a reliable way to stop the isc dhcp client
> from updating resolv.conf is to create
> /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/xlocal-nodnsupdate containing
>
> #!/bin/sh
> make_resolv_conf(){ :; }
You don't
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:24:16AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 09:11:37AM +0300, Reco wrote:
Locate /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf. Replace inside it:
request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
domain-name, domain-name-servers, domain-search, host-nam
On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 04:47:35PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> Symptoms: Any package that needs access to the network sends an error
> message indicating that it doesn't have access to the internet. Ping doesn't
> work for names but does for ip addresses. All ip addresses both local and
> global.
S
Hi.
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 08:24:16AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 09:11:37AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > Locate /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf. Replace inside it:
> >
> > request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
> > domain-name, domain-name-serv
On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 09:11:37AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> Locate /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf. Replace inside it:
>
> request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
> domain-name, domain-name-servers, domain-search, host-name
> dhcp6.name-servers, dhcp6.domain-search, dhcp6
Hi.
On Tue, Oct 03, 2017 at 01:30:11PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> OK Rico> I followed your instructions and still have the same problem.
> Attached are the new files. Already installed were isc-dhcp-client and
> resolvconf. You are right about the br1 entry not being needed. the virtual
>
On 10/03/2017 03:53 PM, David Wright wrote:
On Tue 03 Oct 2017 at 13:30:11 (-0700), Gary Roach wrote:
OK Rico> I followed your instructions and still have the same
problem. Attached are the new files. Already installed were
isc-dhcp-client and resolvconf. You are right about the br1 entry
not be
On Tue 03 Oct 2017 at 13:30:11 (-0700), Gary Roach wrote:
> OK Rico> I followed your instructions and still have the same
> problem. Attached are the new files. Already installed were
> isc-dhcp-client and resolvconf. You are right about the br1 entry
> not being needed. the virtual machine works f
OK Rico> I followed your instructions and still have the same problem.
Attached are the new files. Already installed were isc-dhcp-client and
resolvconf. You are right about the br1 entry not being needed. the
virtual machine works fine without it.
Gary R
# This file describes the network inte
On Mon 02 Oct 2017 at 21:32:40 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 11:15:16AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On Mon 02 Oct 2017 at 10:00:28 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> >
> > > To bring order to this chaos, you'll need this e/n/i:
> > >
> > > auto enp4s0
> > > iface enp4s0 ine
Hi.
On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 11:15:16AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 02 Oct 2017 at 10:00:28 (+0300), Reco wrote:
>
> > To bring order to this chaos, you'll need this e/n/i:
> >
> > auto enp4s0
> > iface enp4s0 inet dhcp
> > dns-nameserver 8.8.4.4
> > dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8
On Mon 02 Oct 2017 at 06:26:08 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 02 October 2017 03:00:28 Reco wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 07:26:30PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> > > This is the second time I've tried to send this. The first one just
> > > disappeared to the bit buck
On Mon 02 Oct 2017 at 10:00:28 (+0300), Reco wrote:
> To bring order to this chaos, you'll need this e/n/i:
>
> auto enp4s0
> iface enp4s0 inet dhcp
> dns-nameserver 8.8.4.4
> dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8
>
> Please note the indentation,
… which looks tidy, but the indentation carries no
On Monday 02 October 2017 03:00:28 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 07:26:30PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> > This is the second time I've tried to send this. The first one just
> > disappeared to the bit bucket I assume. So lets try again.
>
> It did not. Everyone on the list got
Hi.
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 07:26:30PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> This is the second time I've tried to send this. The first one just
> disappeared to the bit bucket I assume. So lets try again.
It did not. Everyone on the list got it, I believe.
> Sorry about the delay in replying to yo
On 2017-10-02 12:26, Gary Roach wrote:
> On 09/27/2017 09:31 AM, Reco wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:16:20PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
>>> On 26/09/17 19:50, Reco wrote:
Please post these things from the problematic PC:
ip a l
ip ro l
>>>
>>> Can I make a request?
On 09/27/2017 09:31 AM, Reco wrote:
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:16:20PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
On 26/09/17 19:50, Reco wrote:
Please post these things from the problematic PC:
ip a l
ip ro l
Can I make a request? When giving example commands, can you give them in
full, rather than abbr
On Sun 01 Oct 2017 at 13:36:28 (-0700), Gary Roach wrote:
> OK, I've been remiss in getting you the information requested. I
> think what you need is in the attachments. Nowhere have I found
> reference to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 name servers. I have tried serveral
> different ways to get them into the
On 09/27/2017 09:31 AM, Reco wrote:
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:16:20PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
On 26/09/17 19:50, Reco wrote:
Please post these things from the problematic PC:
ip a l
ip ro l
Can I make a request? When giving example commands, can you give them in
full, rather than abbr
On 2017-09-30, Gary Roach wrote:
>>
> Well the philosophy and stories are nice but my access to the internet
> is still among the missing. I have a Debian Stretch system installed and
> am using NetworkManager. This worked until I installed qemu virtual
> machine over the host OS. Since then th
Le 30/09/2017 à 04:18, Gary Roach a écrit :
Well the philosophy and stories are nice but my access to the internet
is still among the missing.
We are waiting for the information asked by Reco several days ago :
ip address list
ip route list
cat /etc/resolv.conf
tcpdump -nvi any udp port 5
On 09/25/2017 07:20 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Le 25/09/2017 à 15:54, Greg Wooledge a écrit :
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 03:45:06PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Prepare to be disappointed if you modify directly resolv.conf,
because the
software which wrote it first could rewrite it after you, as
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:16:20PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 26/09/17 19:50, Reco wrote:
> > Please post these things from the problematic PC:
> >
> > ip a l
> >
> > ip ro l
>
> Can I make a request? When giving example commands, can you give them in
> full, rather than abbreviated?
Sur
On 2017-09-27, Lck Ras wrote:
> On 09/27/2017 06:16 AM, Don Armstrong wrote:
>> In almost every case, if you don't know the right man page, apropos (or
>> man -k) will help you find it. If that's not good enough, man -K
>> dhclient will eventually find all of them.
>>
>> dhclient (8) - Dy
On 09/27/2017 06:16 AM, Don Armstrong wrote:
> In almost every case, if you don't know the right man page, apropos (or
> man -k) will help you find it. If that's not good enough, man -K
> dhclient will eventually find all of them.
>
> dhclient (8) - Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Clie
On 26/09/17 19:50, Reco wrote:
> Please post these things from the problematic PC:
>
> ip a l
>
> ip ro l
Can I make a request? When giving example commands, can you give them in
full, rather than abbreviated?
I believe 'a' and 'ro' are 'address' and 'route' respectively, but 'l'
is a bit harde
On Tuesday 26 September 2017 15:47:57 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 03:19:51PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > domain coyote.den
> >
> > This I think is a leftover from when it was the place to put your
> > domainname, but now we've had the domainname utility to set that for
On Tuesday 26 September 2017 15:43:35 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 03:33:48PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > nameserver 192.168.XX.1
> > > > search host dns
> > > > domain coyote.den
> >
> > I started with Red Hat 5.0, in the late '90's. And it looks like
> > stretch
On Tue 26 Sep 2017 at 14:59:41 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 01:42:39PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On this topic, I still can't understand the contents of your
> > immutable /etc/resolv.conf file, even without the comma:
> >
> > nameserver 192.168.XX.1
> > search
On Tue, 26 Sep 2017, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> For years, I have been searching back and forth and up and down in
> dhclient(8) and dhclient.conf(5) and finding NOTHING.
> Turns out the REASON I couldn't find anything was because some bright
> spark decided to split the documentation into multiple ma
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 03:43:35PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
NAME
resolver - resolver configuration file
SYNOPSIS
/etc/resolv.conf
...
search Search list for host-name lookup. The search list is normally
determined from the local domain name; by default, it contain
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 03:19:51PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > domain coyote.den
>
> This I think is a leftover from when it was the place to put your
> domainname, but now we've had the domainname utility to set that for
> what, a decade?, and I could probably remove that line. Belt and
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 03:33:48PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > nameserver 192.168.XX.1
> > > search host dns
> > > domain coyote.den
> I started with Red Hat 5.0, in the late '90's. And it looks like stretch
> may have deprecated the executable, locate can only find the .conf
> fi
On Tuesday 26 September 2017 14:59:41 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 01:42:39PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > On this topic, I still can't understand the contents of your
> > immutable /etc/resolv.conf file, even without the comma:
> >
> > nameserver 192.168.XX.1
> > search ho
On Tuesday 26 September 2017 14:42:39 David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 25 Sep 2017 at 18:41:33 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 25 September 2017 13:53:17 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 07:32:05PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> > > > Le 25/09/2017 à 17:33, Gene Heskett a
On Tuesday 26 September 2017 13:51:33 David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 25 Sep 2017 at 17:32:28 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:33:50AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > For me, its a root session, and a "chattr +i resolv.conf"
> > > > If for some reason you need to edit
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 01:42:39PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On this topic, I still can't understand the contents of your
> immutable /etc/resolv.conf file, even without the comma:
>
> nameserver 192.168.XX.1
> search host dns
> domain coyote.den
>
> Can you detail these domains called
On Mon 25 Sep 2017 at 18:41:33 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 25 September 2017 13:53:17 Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 07:32:05PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> > > Le 25/09/2017 à 17:33, Gene Heskett a écrit :
> > > > For me, its a root session, and a "chattr +i re
On Mon 25 Sep 2017 at 17:32:28 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:33:50AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > For me, its a root session, and a "chattr +i resolv.conf"
> > > If for some reason you need to edit it later, you'll have to use the
> > > -i argument first. As long
On Tuesday 26 September 2017 11:30:48 Michael Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 11:21:35AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >I'll give you the ip man page as another perfect example. I've never
> >read a more obtuse manpage in my life. I get the impression the
> > manpage writer is charged 10 dol
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On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 11:30:48AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
[...]
> If you aren't volunteering to write the man pages, could you at
> least tone down the rhetoric and find a way to express your concerns
> without the name calling and insulting cha
On Tuesday 26 September 2017 10:04:42 Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 09:09:47AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 02:12:07PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> >> On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:20:45PM -0700, Don Armstrong
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 11:21:35AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
I'll give you the ip man page as another perfect example. I've never
read a more obtuse manpage in my life. I get the impression the manpage
writer is charged 10 dollars a word for emmiting anything over 100
words.
The whole man pa
On Tuesday 26 September 2017 09:09:47 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 02:12:07PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:20:45PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > > > as is documented in dhclient-script(8):
> > >
> > >
Le 26/09/2017 à 15:09, Greg Wooledge a écrit :
lucky, I'll focus on that page rather than dhcp-options(5) which is
very confusing, and seems to be talking in abstractions. It sure as
hell doesn't clearly define what options go in what files, nor even
which options are for the client and which a
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 09:09:47AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 02:12:07PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:20:45PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > as is documented in dhclient-script(8):
>
> Well now that's
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On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 09:09:47AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
[...]
> No, you don't understand. I had no idea that man page EXISTED!
> For years, I have been searching back and forth and up and down in
> dhclient(8) and dhclient.conf(5) and finding
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 02:12:07PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:20:45PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > > as is documented in dhclient-script(8):
> >
> > Well now that's just EVIL. :-(
>
> It's much more powerful than a sin
Hi.
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:49:22PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> On 09/23/2017 09:31 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> > On 9/23/17, Gary Roach wrote:
> > > Hi all.
> > > I have been trying for several day to get firefox to work on a newly
> > > installed Debian Stretch system. It Seems that
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 08:56:54 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 06:03:12PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
...
> > I have
> > installed resolvconf
>
> *shudder*
>
> I mean, unless this is a laptop or a tablet or a phone or something.
> Then it may be appropriate, because you might
On Monday 25 September 2017 13:53:17 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 07:32:05PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> > Le 25/09/2017 à 17:33, Gene Heskett a écrit :
> > > For me, its a root session, and a "chattr +i resolv.conf"
> >
> > Here we have a saying that roughly translates to :
On Monday 25 September 2017 12:10:10 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:33:50AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > I mean, unless this is a laptop or a tablet or a phone or
> > > something. Then it may be appropriate, because you might actually
> > > WANT your resolv.conf file to
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:20:45PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > as is documented in dhclient-script(8):
>
> Well now that's just EVIL. :-(
It's much more powerful than a single variable because you can have it
do *anything*.
But since most people do
On 09/23/2017 09:31 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
On 9/23/17, Gary Roach wrote:
Hi all.
I have been trying for several day to get firefox to work on a newly
installed Debian Stretch system. It Seems that Firefox can't find a DNS
server. I am having the same problem with apt-get update. None of my
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:20:45PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> as is documented in dhclient-script(8):
Well now that's just EVIL. :-(
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 09:59:26PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> I need to ask - what are you using instead of proper DHCP client?
titan:~$ dpkg -l | grep dhc
ii isc-dhcp-client 4.3.5-3
amd64DHCP client for automatically obtaining an IP address
ii
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Should the dhclient program have a CONFIG FILE OPTION to say
> "NEVER TOUCH THE resolv.conf FILE"? YES!
>
> Does it? NO!
It does. Simply:
cat - < /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/disablemakeresolvconf
make_resolv_conf() { : ; }
EOF
as is documented
Hi.
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 01:53:17PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Would I be happier if I could use a more elegant solution? Yes.
Being disappointed with built-in Zyxel DHCP server I merely disabled it
and set up a proper ISC DHCP server. I don't know, it's probably
unelegant to you,
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 07:32:05PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 25/09/2017 à 17:33, Gene Heskett a écrit :
> >
> > For me, its a root session, and a "chattr +i resolv.conf"
>
> Here we have a saying that roughly translates to :
> "When you have a hammer, any problem looks like a nail."
No.
Le 25/09/2017 à 17:33, Gene Heskett a écrit :
For me, its a root session, and a "chattr +i resolv.conf"
Here we have a saying that roughly translates to :
"When you have a hammer, any problem looks like a nail."
Hi.
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 12:21:49PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 07:10:10PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > A common misconception. Here's how a determined userspace can beat
> > immutable bit:
> >
> > # mkdir testetc
> > # touch testetc/resolv.conf
> > # chattr +i test
2017-09-24 18:14 keltezéssel, Reco írta:
>
> Please post these things from the problematic PC:
>
> ip a l
>
> ip ro l
>
> cat /etc/resolv.conf
and cat /etc/nsswitch.conf
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 07:10:10PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> A common misconception. Here's how a determined userspace can beat
> immutable bit:
>
> # mkdir testetc
> # touch testetc/resolv.conf
> # chattr +i testetc/resolv.conf
> # mv testetc/ testetc.orig
> # mkdir testetc
> # touch testetc/resolv.co
Hi.
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:33:50AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > I mean, unless this is a laptop or a tablet or a phone or something.
> > Then it may be appropriate, because you might actually WANT your
> > resolv.conf file to be rewritten every time the wind changes
> > direction.
>
On Monday 25 September 2017 08:56:54 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 06:03:12PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> > I have been trying for several day to get firefox to work on a newly
> > installed Debian Stretch system. It Seems that Firefox can't find a
> > DNS server. I am having the s
Le 25/09/2017 à 15:54, Greg Wooledge a écrit :
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 03:45:06PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Prepare to be disappointed if you modify directly resolv.conf, because the
software which wrote it first could rewrite it after you, as DHCP clients do
each time they renew the lease.
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 03:45:06PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Prepare to be disappointed if you modify directly resolv.conf, because the
> software which wrote it first could rewrite it after you, as DHCP clients do
> each time they renew the lease.
In a battle between me and stupid new softw
Le 25/09/2017 à 15:24, Greg Wooledge a écrit :
I think it's better for all the unix-like systems to work the same way
(the way that they have all done for the last 30+ years), rather than
each one doing something different.
Sadly, there was never any uniformity in how interfaces, IPs, netmasks
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 03:14:02PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Besides, resolvconf is required for the dns-nameservers option in
> /etc/network/interfaces to have any effect with static configuration. Don't
> you think it is better to have all the IP parameters (IP address, mask,
> gateway, DNS
Le 25/09/2017 à 14:56, Greg Wooledge a écrit :
On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 06:03:12PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
I have installed resolvconf
*shudder*
I mean, unless this is a laptop or a tablet or a phone or something.
Then it may be appropriate, because you might actually WANT your
resolv.conf f
On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 06:03:12PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> I have been trying for several day to get firefox to work on a newly
> installed Debian Stretch system. It Seems that Firefox can't find a DNS
> server. I am having the same problem with apt-get update. None of my mirrors
> can be reache
Hi.
On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 08:55:51AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> Don't know why but this message didn't show up on my email so am sending
> again. Thanks for the reply Cindy Sue.
>
> Hi all.
> I have been trying for several day to get firefox to work on a newly
> installed Debian Stretch
On 9/23/17, Gary Roach wrote:
> Hi all.
> I have been trying for several day to get firefox to work on a newly
> installed Debian Stretch system. It Seems that Firefox can't find a DNS
> server. I am having the same problem with apt-get update. None of my
> mirrors can be reached. Ping works just
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