On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 11:04:11PM +0100, s. keeling wrote:
> right (to your tastes)? Why spin off instead into this silly "I'm
> right and everyone else is evil!" diatribe?
It's hard to stop breathing. ;)
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greatest tribu
* Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jan 14 05:47 -0600]:
> On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 04:56:09PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jan 13 14:58 -0600]:
> >
> > >> This is a waste of time.
> > >
> > > Am I the only one who's noticed that Schilling's mail/n
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 01/13/08 14:09, s. keeling wrote:
> >
> > This is a waste of time.
>
> Am I the only one who's noticed that Schilling's mail/news reader
> doesn't thread?
I thought that was just yet another of his quirky habits. It explains
why he loses attributions to
On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 04:56:09PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jan 13 14:58 -0600]:
>
> >> This is a waste of time.
> >
> > Am I the only one who's noticed that Schilling's mail/news reader
> > doesn't thread?
>
> Mutt has been keeping his posts in the
(I was unsure whether to reply privately or on the list. But since there
is apparently more than one reader who is objecting to my posting style
in this thread, I am going to explain it once publicly and would prefer
to take the discussion off-list soon.)
Sjoerd Hiemstra:
> Jochen Schulz:
>> Ro
* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jan 13 14:58 -0600]:
>> This is a waste of time.
>
> Am I the only one who's noticed that Schilling's mail/news reader
> doesn't thread?
Mutt has been keeping his posts in the thread here.
- Nate >>
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Jochen Schulz:
> Ron Johnson:
> > Am I the only one who's noticed that Schilling's mail/news reader
> > doesn't thread?
>
> No, and that's the way he prefers to take part in mailing lists.
Am I the only one who dislikes this kind of gossip? It certainly does
not comply with Debian's moral standar
Ron Johnson:
>
> Am I the only one who's noticed that Schilling's mail/news reader doesn't
> thread?
No, and that's the way he prefers to take part in mailing lists. Earlier
attempts to discuss this matter have been, erm, just another waste of
time.
J.
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Florian Kulzer:
>
> I get the impression that you have a problem with the "cdrkit" package
> from Ubuntu. (No package with this name exists in Debian.)
cdrkit is the source package for wodim and related tools. So yes, there
is a Debian package with that name.
> I hope this helps you with your is
On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 20:07:01 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
[...]
> Sometimes it is hard to stay quiet, in special if someone publishes incorrect
> claims about free software. I believe it is important to post real numbers
> after someone tried to lower the number of bug reports for "cdrkit" i
On 01/13/08 14:09, s. keeling wrote:
Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Sometimes it is hard to stay quiet, in special if someone publishes incorrect
Oh, did I post the wrong link? Here:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=wodim&archive=no&version=&dist=unstabl
Gerard Robin wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 04:02:18AM +0100, s. keeling wrote:
>> From: "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: Re: Burn CD
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s. keeling wrote:
> Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Sometimes it is hard to stay quiet, in special if someone publishes
>> incorrect
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=wodim&archive=no&version=&dist=unstable
>
>
>> claims about free software. I believe it is
Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Sometimes it is hard to stay quiet, in special if someone publishes incorrect
Oh, did I post the wrong link? Here:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=wodim&archive=no&version=&dist=unstable
At the top of the page I see:
Steve Kemp wrote:
> Please stop feeding the troll.
Well, it seems that you did also feed this troll.
Sometimes it is hard to stay quiet, in special if someone publishes incorrect
claims about free software. I believe it is important to post real numbers
after someone tried to lower the number o
Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 13:42:51 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
>
> > > Yes, I can see that the Debian community is having an absolutely=20
> > > terrible time trying to get wodim to work. Six "Important bugs."=20
> >
> > Nice trolling attempt
>
>Plea
On Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 13:42:51 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> > Yes, I can see that the Debian community is having an absolutely
> > terrible time trying to get wodim to work. Six "Important bugs."
>
> Nice trolling attempt
Please stop feeding the troll. Joerg Schilling will never ch
> Yes, I can see that the Debian community is having an absolutely
> terrible time trying to get wodim to work. Six "Important bugs."
Nice trolling attempt
let me forward _unedited_ real numbers instead of your fake:
Outstanding bugs -- Important bugs; Patch Available (1 bug)
Ou
Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > The real problem is a problem caused by the fact that the people
> > > who "created" the wodim "project" don't like to cooperate in a way
> > > that results in quality. I cannot accept patches that don't fix
> > > the problems they are intended to
> > The real problem is a problem caused by the fact that the people
> > who "created" the wodim "project" don't like to cooperate in a way
> > that results in quality. I cannot accept patches that don't fix
> > the problems they are intended to fix but introduce bugs instead.
> Hey Joerg
>> What's stopping cdrecord from being in Debian alongside wodim?
> Its license (mix). Many people see various problems:
> http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/archives/006193.html
> http://lwn.net/Articles/195167/
> http://lwn.net/Articles/199061/
> He is mixing CDDL with GPL code and even
s. keeling:
>
> What's stopping cdrecord from being in Debian alongside wodim?
Its license (mix). Many people see various problems:
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/archives/006193.html
http://lwn.net/Articles/195167/
http://lwn.net/Articles/199061/
He is mixing CDDL with GPL code and even
On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 04:02:18AM +0100, s. keeling wrote:
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Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> The real problem is a problem caused by the fact that the people
> who "created" the wodim "project" don't like to cooperate in a way
> that results in quality. I cannot accept patches that don't fix
> the problems they are intended to fix but introduc
> Wodim is nothing but a fork of a quite old version of cdrecord and, as
> far as I know, only exists inside Debian. The main reason for this fork
> are a dispute over Jörg Schilling's (cdrecord author) licensing and (at
There is a lot of missinformation spread from a few Debian people.
These p
steef wrote:
Joerg Schilling wrote:
hi jörg,
i still owe you an answer; already a rather long time. I just forgot
it and am sorry
<>
i discovered that *without* *dev=* (your suggestion) my
optiarc-device works perfectly with a command like *sudo
/usr/schily/bin/cdrecord
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Hello, that is apparently a long story if you start to read into it. It
has somenthing to do with licensing and philosophy. As far as I can tell
The story has nothing to do with licensing or philosophy but with the missing
will for quality oriented collaboration wit
When Debian changed from cdrtools to wodim, k3b never noticed and I
went along merrily burning CDs and DVDs. Nary a problem noted.
- Nate >>
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>Hello, that is apparently a long story if you start to read into it. It
>has somenthing to do with licensing and philosophy. As far as I can tell
The story has nothing to do with licensing or philosophy but with the missing
will for quality oriented collaboration with the Author.
The attacks ag
hce:
>
> Ok, I am going to install wodim (I've never used it, may take me days
> to learn it). Years ago, seems everyone used cdrecord for burning CD.
> Is it in now days that the wodim is more popular than the cdrecord?
That depends on your definition of popularity. :)
Wodim is nothing but a f
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 07:35:51PM +1100, hce wrote:
> Ok, I am going to install wodim (I've never used it, may take me days
> to learn it). Years ago, seems everyone used cdrecord for burning CD.
> Is it in now days that the wodim is more popular than the cdrecord?
>
> Thanks steef and Bob.
>
>Ok, I am going to install wodim (I've never used it, may take me days
>to learn it). Years ago, seems everyone used cdrecord for burning CD.
>Is it in now days that the wodim is more popular than the cdrecord?
Why do you believe that an extremely outdated version from cdrecord
where somebody ev
On 1/10/08, steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hce wrote:
> > On 1/8/08, steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> hce wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Is following burn CD command correct? I've got following errors:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> $ sudo cdrecord -scanbus
> >>>
> >>> cdrecord: Warning:
hce wrote:
On 1/8/08, steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
hce wrote:
Hi,
Is following burn CD command correct? I've got following errors:
$ sudo cdrecord -scanbus
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page.
1,1,0 101) '' 'ATAPI CDROM
hce wrote:
On 1/8/08, steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
hce wrote:
Hi,
Is following burn CD command correct? I've got following errors:
$ sudo cdrecord -scanbus
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page.
1,1,0 101) '' 'ATAPI CD
On 1/8/08, steef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hce wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is following burn CD command correct? I've got following errors:
> >
> >
> > $ sudo cdrecord -scanbus
> >
> > cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities
> > page.
> > 1,1,0 101) '
On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 09:56:17PM +1100, hce wrote:
From: hce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user
Subject: Burn CD
Hi,
Is following burn CD command correct? I've got following errors:
$ sudo cdrecord -scanbus
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page.
hce wrote:
Hi,
Is following burn CD command correct? I've got following errors:
$ sudo cdrecord -scanbus
cdrecord: Warning: controller returns wrong size for CD capabilities page.
1,1,0 101) '' 'ATAPI CDROM ' '110B' Removable CD-ROM
1,2,0 102) *
At 11:31 PM 11/25/02 +, Pigeon wrote:
>I don't see why this shouldn't work with a loopback-mounted ISO image
>- as per Sean's suggestion - if I understand correctly, the loopback
>mounting system is transparent, so whatever is reading the
>loopback-mounted image sees it as a normal CD drive, an
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 14:11:14 -0500, Hubert Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> "Vineet" == Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>Vineet> * Bill Moseley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021125 06:51]:
>>> Is there any way to emulate a cdrom device? Granted CDRs are
>>> inexpensive, but I was wonderi
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 09:45:57 -0800
Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * Bill Moseley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021125 06:51]:
> >
> > Is there any way to emulate a cdrom device? Granted CDRs are
> > inexpensive, but I was wondering if there was a way to "burn"
> > a cd to a file for testing and they play it like
* Bill Moseley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021125 13:08]:
> I had tried earlier to get dd to copy directly without luck.
>
> dd if=/dev/sr0 of=cdimage
>
> or
>
> dd if=/dev/scd0 of=cdimage
>
> But that results in:
>
> Nov 25 12:29:14 laptop kernel: SCSI cdrom error : host 0 channel 0 id 0 lun
>
At 02:32 PM 11/25/02 -0500, sean finney wrote:
>well, i've never tried this (but have used it for other things), but
>try mounting it on a loopback device and playing it from that.
>
>example:
>
># losetup /dev/loop0 cdimage.iso
>$ cdplay -d /dev/loop0
>
># losetup -d /dev/loop0
>
>i know this work
If you are just trying to listen to music it would by far be easiest and
simplest to rip the cd tracks into ogg vorbis or mp3 formats. There are
many programs to facilitate this. Apt-cache search ripper, apt-cache
search ogg... etc. if you aredetermined to be odd
it is possible to rip a
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 09:56:54AM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote:
> >You won't be able to play it like an audio CD. When your CD-ROM drive
> >does this, it does it at a much lower level; the OS just gives it
> >cd-player-style commands like "play" "stop" "skip", etc, rather than
> >reading the bits of
> "Vineet" == Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Vineet> * Bill Moseley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021125 06:51]:
>> Is there any way to emulate a cdrom device? Granted CDRs are
>> inexpensive, but I was wondering if there was a way to "burn" a cd to
>> a file for testing and they play it li
At 09:45 AM 11/25/02 -0800, Vineet Kumar wrote:
>You won't be able to play it like an audio CD. When your CD-ROM drive
>does this, it does it at a much lower level; the OS just gives it
>cd-player-style commands like "play" "stop" "skip", etc, rather than
>reading the bits of music and feeding the
* Bill Moseley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [021125 06:51]:
>
> Is there any way to emulate a cdrom device? Granted CDRs are inexpensive,
> but I was wondering if there was a way to "burn" a cd to a file for
> testing and they play it like an audio CD.
You won't be able to play it like an audio CD. When
On Mon, 2002-11-25 at 09:45, Bill Moseley wrote:
>
> Is there any way to emulate a cdrom device? Granted CDRs are inexpensive,
> but I was wondering if there was a way to "burn" a cd to a file for
> testing and they play it like an audio CD.
>
> I was trying out some modifications the a cdrdao T
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