Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-22 Thread David Wright
On Fri 21 Apr 2023 at 23:05:53 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 21/04/2023 11:26, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 21 Apr 2023 at 09:48:43 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > > Opt-out variant for ESP sounds reasonable for me. However I am unsure > > > if it is possible to complete installation with

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 21/04/2023 11:26, David Wright wrote: On Fri 21 Apr 2023 at 09:48:43 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: Opt-out variant for ESP sounds reasonable for me. However I am unsure if it is possible to complete installation with no ESP at all. If you mean: to install Grub but not write to the ESP, No,

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-20 Thread David Wright
On Fri 21 Apr 2023 at 09:48:43 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > Opt-out variant for ESP sounds reasonable for me. However I am unsure > if it is possible to complete installation with no ESP at all. If you mean: to install Grub but not write to the ESP, I think you can do this by saying Yes to: ┌──

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 4/15/23 15:51, David Christensen wrote: > "Debian GNU/Linux UEFI Installer menu" -> "Install" On 18/04/2023 15:51, David Christensen wrote: On 4/17/23 21:47, David Wright wrote: As in "Permission to break an egg, sir"? Did not pressing Enter in reply to "Install" imply something? d-i

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/04/2023 11:47, David Wright wrote: On Mon 17 Apr 2023 at 15:26:58 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: I have never seen a document that completely and accurately explains, in computer engineering and science terms, the design and implementation of the boot processes for Debian (or FreeBSD,

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-18 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Tuesday 18 April 2023 12:47:44 am David Wright wrote: > > I have never seen a document that completely and accurately explains, > > in computer engineering and science terms, the design and > > implementation of the boot processes for Debian (or FreeBSD, or > > Windows, or macOS) for all the pos

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-18 Thread David Christensen
On 4/17/23 21:47, David Wright wrote: On Mon 17 Apr 2023 at 15:26:58 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: I have never seen a document that completely and accurately explains, in computer engineering and science terms, the design and implementation of the boot processes for Debian (or FreeBSD, or

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-17 Thread David Wright
On Mon 17 Apr 2023 at 15:26:58 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > On 4/17/23 07:41, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 17 Apr 2023 at 01:27:45 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > > > On 4/16/23 22:08, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > On 17/04/2023 09:18, David Christensen wrote: > > > > > On 4/16/23 03:41,

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-17 Thread David Christensen
On 4/17/23 03:35, Max Nikulin wrote: My point is that UEFI and MBR install may have different behavior. You might underestimate role of implicit conventions and agreements. I used to think that d-i would inform me and get my permission before making changes to my computer. It is unfortuna

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-17 Thread David Christensen
On 4/17/23 07:41, David Wright wrote: On Mon 17 Apr 2023 at 01:27:45 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/23 22:08, Max Nikulin wrote: On 17/04/2023 09:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/23 03:41, Max Nikulin wrote: On 16/04/2023 05:51, David Christensen wrote: When I moved the 2.5" S

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-17 Thread David Wright
On Mon 17 Apr 2023 at 01:27:45 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > On 4/16/23 22:08, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 17/04/2023 09:18, David Christensen wrote: > > > On 4/16/23 03:41, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > On 16/04/2023 05:51, David Christensen wrote: > > > > > When I moved the 2.5" SATA SSD to a ho

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-17 Thread Max Nikulin
On 17/04/2023 15:27, David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/23 22:08, Max Nikulin wrote: On 17/04/2023 09:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/23 03:41, Max Nikulin wrote: On 16/04/2023 05:51, David Christensen wrote: When I moved the 2.5" SATA SSD to a homebrew Intel DQ67SW computer ... The SSD

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-17 Thread David Christensen
On 4/16/23 22:08, Max Nikulin wrote: On 17/04/2023 09:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/23 03:41, Max Nikulin wrote: On 16/04/2023 05:51, David Christensen wrote: When I moved the 2.5" SATA SSD to a homebrew Intel DQ67SW computer and configured BIOS Setup: "Boot" -> "UEFI Boot" -> "E

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-16 Thread Max Nikulin
On 17/04/2023 09:18, David Christensen wrote: On 4/16/23 03:41, Max Nikulin wrote: On 16/04/2023 05:51, David Christensen wrote: When I moved the 2.5" SATA SSD to a homebrew Intel DQ67SW computer and configured BIOS Setup: "Boot" -> "UEFI Boot" -> "Enable" The SSD would not boot. New

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-16 Thread David Christensen
On 4/16/23 03:41, Max Nikulin wrote: On 16/04/2023 05:51, David Christensen wrote: I installed a 2.5" SATA SSD, inserted a debian-11.6.0-amd64-netinst CD, booted the CD, and installed Debian: "Debian GNU/Linux UEFI Installer menu" -> "Install" ... "Partitioning method" -> "Manua

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-16 Thread Max Nikulin
On 16/04/2023 05:51, David Christensen wrote: I installed a 2.5" SATA SSD, inserted a debian-11.6.0-amd64-netinst CD, booted the CD, and installed Debian:     "Debian GNU/Linux UEFI Installer menu" -> "Install"     ...     "Partitioning method" -> "Manual" -> <2.5" SATA SSD> Perhaps at thi

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer? S.W.A.G.

2023-04-16 Thread Jude DaShiell
7My reason for suggesting changing debconf priority to low was that perhaps additional questions might have uncovered some strangeness in the installer. It was not intended to fix this bug but only as a means to further analyze the bug. Apparently those on this list failed to understand but that'

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer? S.W.A.G.

2023-04-16 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 07:09:58PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 03:37:54PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 07:20:58PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > > > [1] I needed a websearch on S.W.A.G. Did find > > > - Sharing Warmth Around the Globe > >

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-16 Thread Jude DaShiell
d-i makes no distinction between nvme and usb. Maybe another problem is the chosen installation destination might not be passed to the code that does the grub install. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed How

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-15 Thread David Wright
On Sat 15 Apr 2023 at 15:51:46 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > On 4/15/23 02:36, Andrew Wood wrote: > > Ive just used the Debian 11 installer ISO running from a USB stick > > to do an install (AMD64/UEFI) on another USB stick to use as a > > 'portable PC'. > > > > When it got to the Grub insta

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-15 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, April 15, 2023 03:37:54 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > I think it's either "Stupid Wild-Ass Guess" or "Silly Wild-Ass Guess". In my experience (and usage) it was "Scientific Wild Ass Guess". -- rhk | No entity has permission to use this email to train an AI.

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-15 Thread David Christensen
On 4/15/23 02:36, Andrew Wood wrote: Ive just used the Debian 11 installer ISO running from a USB stick to do an install (AMD64/UEFI) on another USB stick to use as a 'portable PC'. When it got to the Grub install stage I was expecting it to ask me which disk I wanted Grub installed on as it h

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 07:20:58PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > [1] I needed a websearch on S.W.A.G. Did find > - Sharing Warmth Around the Globe > - Sealed With A Gift > - Stolen Without A Gun > - So What? Another Giveaway? > - Sub-Watershed Advisory Group > - Some Women Are Great > - Souvenir

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-15 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 06:24:34PM +0100, Andrew Wood wrote: > On 15/04/2023 18:20, Geert Stappers wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 11:02:02AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > On Sat, 15 Apr 2023, Geert Stappers wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 10:36:14AM +0100, Andrew Wood wrote: > > > >

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-15 Thread Jude DaShiell
You've never seen debian main menu in the installer. That's selection 19 on that main menu and selection 21 helps big time with debugging since you choose that to save log files and selection 3 under that will save logs to /var/log/installer directory. Two ways to get to main menu. First and slo

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-15 Thread Andrew Wood
On 15/04/2023 18:20, Geert Stappers wrote: Time will tell if original poster shares information on whether or not if priority for debian-install was changed. Nothing was changed. I dont even know what that is. Ive installed Debian on many  systems over the past 12 years and have never alter

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-15 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 11:02:02AM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > On Sat, 15 Apr 2023, Geert Stappers wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 10:36:14AM +0100, Andrew Wood wrote: > > > Ive just used the Debian 11 installer ISO running from a USB stick to do > > > an > > > install (AMD64/UEFI) on another

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-15 Thread Andrew Wood
On 15/04/2023 14:12, Geert Stappers wrote: Way before "grub install" should have been asked On which disk to install I do read "two devices were effected", I think it is the same error of On which disk to install If you mean did it install Debian on the NVme ssd then no, the

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-15 Thread Jude DaShiell
A s.w.a.g. here. Priority of questions asked was not set to low in the main menu. I routinely change that to low when doing a debian install and preserve logs for future reference. Default priority if memory serves is medium. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soa

Re: "Bug" in Debian Installer?

2023-04-15 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 10:36:14AM +0100, Andrew Wood wrote: > Ive just used the Debian 11 installer ISO running from a USB stick to do an > install (AMD64/UEFI) on another USB stick to use as a 'portable PC'. > > When it got to the Grub install stage I was expecting it to ask me which > disk I wa

Re: Bug in Debian installer

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Proulx
sppmg wrote: > 於 2011年09月14日 02:45, Bob Proulx 提到: > > spp mg wrote: > >> I install Debian(6.0.2.1 amd64) to a old HDD.This HDD has a lvm > >> partition,it's creat by Fedora installer. > >> I can't delete this lvm partition in intaller,it's display about "lvm > >> is busy..." ,even if I delete all

Re: Bug in Debian installer

2011-09-14 Thread sppmg
於 2011年09月14日 02:45, Bob Proulx 提到: > spp mg wrote: >> I install Debian(6.0.2.1 amd64) to a old HDD.This HDD has a lvm >> partition,it's creat by Fedora installer. >> I can't delete this lvm partition in intaller,it's display about "lvm >> is busy..." ,even if I delete all Logical Volume and restar

Re: Bug in Debian installer

2011-09-13 Thread Bob Proulx
spp mg wrote: > I install Debian(6.0.2.1 amd64) to a old HDD.This HDD has a lvm > partition,it's creat by Fedora installer. > I can't delete this lvm partition in intaller,it's display about "lvm > is busy..." ,even if I delete all Logical Volume and restart > installer. > > Finally, I delete lvm