Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-10-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 24 sep 13, 14:22:39, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > Does vi(m) correctly detect the filetype of emails as 'mail'? I added > the following to ~/.vimrc > > au BufRead,BufNewFile /tmp/mutt-* set filetype=mail I don't need that, I only have: autocmd FileType mail setlocal spell spelllang=ro

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 09:34 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > Irony and sarcasm are hard to use well in your mother tongue. They are > even harder to use in a non-native tongue. I try to be more careful. On another list I already marked text with [satire] foo [/satire]. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > [...] > I was ironic. > > Why is there always that much noise to the list, when people unintended > offend a mailing list rule? > [...] Irony and sarcasm are hard to use well in your mother tongue. They are even harder to use in a non-native

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 21:18 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 21:47 -0400, Tom H wrote: > >> > >> I thought that Arch's policy was to package the latest vanilla > >> upstream versions. > > > > Correct! > > So why are you claimin

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-26 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 21:47 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> >> I thought that Arch's policy was to package the latest vanilla >> upstream versions. > > Correct! So why are you claiming that they've forked Evolution?! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 21:47 -0400, Tom H wrote: > I thought that Arch's policy was to package the latest vanilla > upstream versions. Correct! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-25 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > You missed to understand the irony :D. No, I'm kidding now. Indeed, Arch > Linux forked Evolution, called the fork Evolution too and messed up > quoting for Evolution. This is the policy of Arch Linux, to make broken > forks of current stabl

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-24 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 02:22:39PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > Ah, a fellow vim user! > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:54:30PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > I have my ~/.muttrc as followqs: > > > > set editor="vim +':set textwidth=72'" > > Does vi(m) correctly detect the filetype of email

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-09-24 at 14:22 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I regularly re-wrap text that I'm quoting from others. +1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.or

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Ah, a fellow vim user! On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:54:30PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > I have my ~/.muttrc as followqs: > > set editor="vim +':set textwidth=72'" Does vi(m) correctly detect the filetype of emails as 'mail'? I added the following to ~/.vimrc au BufRead,BufNewFile /tmp/mut

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-24 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 9/23/13, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 09:46:51AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> On 9/23/13, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> > _Please_ people. The idea is that we should help each other and that >> > that >> > help should be available in the archive for searchers to find. We need

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 07:01:55PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I recently got back from holiday. I have found catching up on the list > really > difficult because so many people now break threads and don't trim quotes, or, > even worse, do not quote at all. Read (and/or help) those who make doi

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-23 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 08:39:14AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 23 September 2013 00:46:51 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > If you MUA has such a setting, I recommend about 70-chars line > > length for emails, to minimise the "single word on next line after > > quoting and wrapping" problem, seen

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 23:57 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:50:02PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 12:55 -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > > don't trim quotes > > > > Some days ago I trimmed quotes on Linux audio users/developers and was > > ask to qu

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 05:56:45AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 09:46 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Please avoid breaking threads > > To add this line won't help, because _most_ users aren't aware what > breaking a thread does mean. They'll soon learn. The idea is not t

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 09:46:51AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 9/23/13, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > _Please_ people. The idea is that we should help each other and that that > > help should be available in the archive for searchers to find. We need to > > be > > both legible and comprehensible.

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:50:02PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 12:55 -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > don't trim quotes > > Some days ago I trimmed quotes on Linux audio users/developers and was > ask to quote everything, because out of context the quotes would be > manipulat

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 23 September 2013 00:46:51 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > If you MUA has such a setting, I recommend about 70-chars line > length for emails, to minimise the "single word on next line after > quoting and wrapping" problem, seen above .. My ignorance showing. I thought that that odd wrapping w

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 09:48 +0400, recovery...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:37:00PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >> ... Really bad quoting ... > > X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.5 > > Wow. Is evolution they give you in Arch Linux really that bad? > Did you considered tuning it somewhat? >

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread recovery...@gmail.com
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:37:00PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> ... Really bad quoting ... > X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.5 Wow. Is evolution they give you in Arch Linux really that bad? Did you considered tuning it somewhat? Because you see - OP mail looked just fine in my mutt. Reco -- To UNSUB

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 09:46 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Please avoid breaking threads To add this line won't help, because _most_ users aren't aware what breaking a thread does mean. It's much easier to sort by something else, instead of the thread. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-r

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 9/23/13, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I recently got back from holiday. I have found catching up on the list > really > difficult because so many people now break threads and don't trim quotes, > or, > even worse, do not quote at all. If you MUA has such a setting, I recommend about 70-chars line leng

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:00:02 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Insanity is a new fashion in Linuxland. In regard to some of your recent comments Ralf I was a bit concerned about you. Maybe the NSA hasn't made you nuts at all but instead repressed feelings about the environment. I understand completel

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 22:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 12:55 -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > don't trim quotes PS: As you can see, in this case the really bad trimmed quote indeed could be misinterpreted as a call. I guess we have to live with some odd mails. Ok, that hard

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 12:55 -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > don't trim quotes Some days ago I trimmed quotes on Linux audio users/developers and was ask to quote everything, because out of context the quotes would be manipulating the content. But it anyway was an insane discussion, since somebody fo

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 19:01 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: I recently got back from holiday. I have found catching up on the list really > difficult because so many people now break threads and don't trim quotes, or, > even worse, do not quote at all. hyposensibilization might help > > What on eart

Re: Broken threads and missing quotations

2013-09-22 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 07:01:55PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I recently got back from holiday. I have found catching up on the list > really > difficult because so many people now break threads and don't trim quotes, or, > even worse, do not quote at all. I was going to just grin and bear it,