Le 29/10/2019 à 20:37, Jimmy Johnson a écrit :
the file system you use matters, some file systems only use uefi and
will give you no legacy support.
Utter nonsense.
Joe wrote:
> That's OK, so will I when an OS version of Access exists. I'm not
> holding my breath.
The business enforces is, we can not do anything against. I don't mind using
the crap if they pay the license and they pay me for using it.
I used to have one linux pc before, but now I have to us
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 13:10:04 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 10/29/19 12:07 PM, Joe wrote:
>
> > No, it doesn't do legacy. There is no 'legacy' on any BIOS screen.
> > It's an Aspire ES1-132. But Stretch installed in EFI easily and
> > even gave me a dual-boot with Win10, which didn't interest m
On 10/29/19 12:07 PM, Joe wrote:
No, it doesn't do legacy. There is no 'legacy' on any BIOS screen. It's
an Aspire ES1-132. But Stretch installed in EFI easily and even gave me
a dual-boot with Win10, which didn't interest me at the time, but does
now. I'm doing a bit of Access work for the firs
On 10/29/19 12:22 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
HP UEFI firmwares were among the most broken ones, ignoring EFI boot
entries created for GRUB.
I swear those new hp's are broken by design just like our main
stream(cough) linux. But if you find the right system, using the right
kernel you can get
On 10/29/19 9:23 AM, deloptes wrote:
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
My acer aspire one is not having a problem and another acer with 17 inch
screen, hdmi and ddr3 is not having a problem, I can't get at the model
right now. You may have to fiddle with your bios, on a samsung I have to
go to bios at boot,
Le 29/10/2019 à 17:23, deloptes a écrit :
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
I personally do not see a reason why I should mess up with the bios to
switch back and fort to legacy and not legacy
Because some (many ?) UEFI firmwares are defective and having them boot
a GNU/Linux system in EFI mode can be a r
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 02:45:56 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 10/29/19 1:56 AM, Joe wrote:
> > On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 01:21:52 -0700
> > Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/27/19 10:38 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 10/26/19 5:41 PM, songbird wrote:
> Peter Ehlert wrote:
>
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> My acer aspire one is not having a problem and another acer with 17 inch
> screen, hdmi and ddr3 is not having a problem, I can't get at the model
> right now. You may have to fiddle with your bios, on a samsung I have to
> go to bios at boot, to boot device where I find wha
On 10/29/19 1:56 AM, Joe wrote:
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 01:21:52 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
On 10/27/19 10:38 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote:
On 10/26/19 5:41 PM, songbird wrote:
Peter Ehlert wrote:
I have tried it, several times, but was unable to get Grub
properly installed... not able to boot.
I to
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 01:21:52 -0700
Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 10/27/19 10:38 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> >
> > On 10/26/19 5:41 PM, songbird wrote:
> >> Peter Ehlert wrote:
> >>> I have tried it, several times, but was unable to get Grub
> >>> properly installed... not able to boot.
> >>> I too
On 10/27/19 10:38 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote:
On 10/26/19 5:41 PM, songbird wrote:
Peter Ehlert wrote:
I have tried it, several times, but was unable to get Grub properly
installed... not able to boot.
I too would like such a tool
hmm, i have a booting USB stick of stable (before recent
releas
Kenneth Parker wrote:
> Background: One of my "volunteer activities" is to "Rehabilitate" really
> old Hardware, to keep it off our Landfills, and to have it available to
> people with Extremely Low finances. I was part of an organization in
> Seattle, doing this, but I am not finding others, at
Kenneth Parker wrote:
> Here I am. And yes, I have run installs on USB Drives, on one system, and
> then tried to boot it on another. Things that go wrong include different
> naming conventions for Ethernet, sound woes, and even (at least once) only
> getting into Text Mode, due to wildly differ
On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 4:52 PM Brian wrote:
The OP will be along in a while to give his assessment of the suggested
> techniques and how they fit his aspirations.
>
Here I am. And yes, I have run installs on USB Drives, on one system, and
then tried to boot it on another. Things that go wro
On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 7:01 AM Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 10/27/2019 04:27 AM, deloptes wrote:
> > Tom Browder wrote:
> >
> >> That would be great! As usual, the Devil is in the details!
> >
> > well, it is not a rocket science as shown above - I'll post here this
> > evening or tomorrow. I need
I've been swamped for a few days: Sorry it took me a while to get back to
this Thread.
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 1:32 PM Brian wrote:
> On Sat 26 Oct 2019 at 12:33:52 -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > What I want, is almost there (put a Live Buster DVD on a USB Drive), but
> > I'
Brian wrote:
>> Cause I may not have the time to do so, but of course it can be me.
>
> Time (and the fun in taking on a task) is what keeps Debian alive.
>
I would write a wiki on debian only if it is approved by the community. I
think it is fair, so if we agree, but also someone else can do t
On Sun 27 Oct 2019 at 21:22:41 +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Brian wrote:
>
> > Why "someone"? Why not you?
>
> Cause I may not have the time to do so, but of course it can be me.
Time (and the fun in taking on a task) is what keeps Debian alive.
> >> This is a step by step how to to install debian
Brian wrote:
> Why "someone"? Why not you?
>
Cause I may not have the time to do so, but of course it can be me.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> This is a step by step how to to install debian on a USB stick and
>> make this stick bootable. The stick in the example is found under
>> /dev/sdb. Change to
On 10/27/2019 03:12 PM, Brian wrote:
""
*!*
On Sun 27 Oct 2019 at 19:41:12 +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Peter Ehlert wrote:
>
> > I have tried it, several times, but was unable to get Grub properly
> > installed... not able to boot.
> > I too would like such a tool
>
> Let me know how it works - perhaps someone could put it on the Debian Wik
Peter Ehlert wrote:
> I have tried it, several times, but was unable to get Grub properly
> installed... not able to boot.
> I too would like such a tool
Let me know how it works - perhaps someone could put it on the Debian Wiki
after refinement.
regards
This is a step by step how to to instal
On 10/27/2019 09:31 AM, deloptes wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
Would what you do explicitly depend on EFI?
I have a collection of elderly machines, some with only legacy
BIOS.
[snip]
Regarding older hardware, it might be that the kernel does not support this
or that. You know Debian does not
On 10/26/19 5:41 PM, songbird wrote:
Peter Ehlert wrote:
I have tried it, several times, but was unable to get Grub properly
installed... not able to boot.
I too would like such a tool
hmm, i have a booting USB stick of stable (before recent
release so i'm actually one stable back now :) )
Richard Owlett wrote:
> Would what you do explicitly depend on EFI?
> I don't have a clear idea of what Kenneth described in his original post.
> HOWEVER, having such a system might be worthwhile to explore some of my
> ideas. I have a collection of elderly machines, some with only legacy
> BIOS.
On 10/27/2019 04:27 AM, deloptes wrote:
Tom Browder wrote:
That would be great! As usual, the Devil is in the details!
well, it is not a rocket science as shown above - I'll post here this
evening or tomorrow. I need to redo this on the debian system and see if
there are some differences
W
Tom Browder wrote:
> That would be great! As usual, the Devil is in the details!
well, it is not a rocket science as shown above - I'll post here this
evening or tomorrow. I need to redo this on the debian system and see if
there are some differences
Peter Ehlert wrote:
> I have tried it, several times, but was unable to get Grub properly
> installed... not able to boot.
> I too would like such a tool
hmm, i have a booting USB stick of stable (before recent
release so i'm actually one stable back now :) ). no issues
at all booting from it
Brian wrote:
...
> Would you please explain what you mean by "...leaving any Local Hard
> Drives alone."?
i would assume that booting from a USB device which
only mounts that device and none of the hard drives
unless they are specified in the fstab of the USB system's
/etc
other standard temp
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 12:52 deloptes wrote:
> deloptes wrote:
>
...
>
> Rebooted and voila it works.
> >
> > regards
>
> Perhaps I should write a howto as I see +1 interested
That would be great! As usual, the Devil is in the details!
Best regards,
-Tom
deloptes wrote:
> Just did this yesterday on a RHEL server - it actually doesn't matter what
> linux is there. It all works the same way.
>
> I used EFI so I setup GPT and created the 3 partitions marking the first
> (EFI) as bootable.
> Format all as required and mount for example
> mount /dev/
On Sat 26 Oct 2019 at 12:33:52 -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote:
> Hello,
>
> What I want, is almost there (put a Live Buster DVD on a USB Drive), but
> I'm hoping for more.
>
> I'd like to format my USB Drive into, at least three Partitions, preferably
> using msdos Partitioning (so it can Boot fro
I have tried it, several times, but was unable to get Grub properly
installed... not able to boot.
I too would like such a tool
On 10/26/19 9:33 AM, Kenneth Parker wrote:
Hello,
What I want, is almost there (put a Live Buster DVD on a USB Drive),
but I'm hoping for more.
I'd like to format
Kenneth Parker wrote:
> What is different this time, is that I'd like to be able to Boot this from
> different Systems, probing their Network, Sound, Video, Keyboard and Mouse
> systems on Bootup, but leaving any Local Hard Drives alone. Existing
> systems do this, for example, Knoppix, but it's
On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 12:33:52 -0400
Kenneth Parker wrote:
> Hello,
>
> What I want, is almost there (put a Live Buster DVD on a USB Drive),
> but I'm hoping for more.
>
> I'd like to format my USB Drive into, at least three Partitions,
> preferably using msdos Partitioning (so it can Boot from
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