Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)

2006-04-22 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 12:01 -0400, Manaen Schlabach wrote: > On 4/21/06, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 03:37 -0300, Rogério Brito wrote: > > > On Apr 19 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > > It seems like everyone agrees that Video card manufacturers really > don't

Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)

2006-04-22 Thread Manaen Schlabach
On 4/21/06, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 03:37 -0300, Rogério Brito wrote: > > On Apr 19 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Still, if they come out with reasonably priced cards that can do > > > 3D like an NVIDIA FX 5200 using the nvidia binary driver, I'd > > > > How

Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)

2006-04-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 03:37 -0300, Rogério Brito wrote: > On Apr 19 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Still, if they come out with reasonably priced cards that can do > > 3D like an NVIDIA FX 5200 using the nvidia binary driver, I'd > > How exactly is the performance of such a beast? I have never had

Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)

2006-04-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 20 April 2006 23:37, Rogério Brito wrote: > On Apr 19 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Still, if they come out with reasonably priced cards that can do > > 3D like an NVIDIA FX 5200 using the nvidia binary driver, I'd > > How exactly is the performance of such a beast? I have never had the

Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)

2006-04-21 Thread Rogério Brito
On Apr 19 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: > Still, if they come out with reasonably priced cards that can do > 3D like an NVIDIA FX 5200 using the nvidia binary driver, I'd How exactly is the performance of such a beast? I have never had the opportunity of using a binary driver for video, since I don't n

Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)

2006-04-21 Thread Rogério Brito
On Apr 19 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: > When Intel makes "stand-alone" video cards, they'll get more notice > from those of us who don't want on-board video. Actually, between the choices of being able to use the driver even if the card is on-board or not using it (or it having poor support under Fre

Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)

2006-04-20 Thread Manaen Schlabach
On 4/19/06, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 16:53 -0700, Xplicit Language wrote: > > i have found a video driver on intel 82810 onboard video on they're > > site at www.intel.com in the downloads and support section, i couldn't > > get it to install since i am new to

Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)

2006-04-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 19:34, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 17:27 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 17:08, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 16:53 -0700, Xplicit Language wrote: > > > > i have found a video driver on intel 82810 onboard video on

Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)

2006-04-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 17:27 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 17:08, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 16:53 -0700, Xplicit Language wrote: > > > i have found a video driver on intel 82810 onboard video on they're > > > site at www.intel.com in the downloads and sup

Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)

2006-04-19 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 17:08, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 16:53 -0700, Xplicit Language wrote: > > i have found a video driver on intel 82810 onboard video on they're > > site at www.intel.com in the downloads and support section, i couldn't > > get it to install since i am new t

Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)

2006-04-19 Thread Xplicit Language
right i see what you meanRon Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 16:53 -0700, Xplicit Language wrote:> i have found a video driver on intel 82810 onboard video on they're> site at www.intel.com in the downloads and support section, i couldn't> get it to install since i am new

Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)

2006-04-19 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 16:53 -0700, Xplicit Language wrote: > i have found a video driver on intel 82810 onboard video on they're > site at www.intel.com in the downloads and support section, i couldn't > get it to install since i am new to linux, but it was there. When Intel makes "stand-alone" vi

Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)

2006-04-19 Thread Xplicit Language
i have found a video driver on intel 82810 onboard video on they're site at www.intel.com in the downloads and support section, i couldn't get it to install since i am new to linux, but it was there.Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Manaen and others interested in Freedom.On Apr 18 200

Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)

2006-04-19 Thread Xplicit Language
Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Manaen and others interested in Freedom.On Apr 18 2006, Manaen Schlabach wrote:> From a recent ZDNet article> > http://news.com.com/2102-7344_3-6061491.html?tag=st.util.printYes, I read this very same article with great interest (and what a goodtimi

Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)

2006-04-19 Thread Rogério Brito
Hi, Manaen and others interested in Freedom. On Apr 18 2006, Manaen Schlabach wrote: > From a recent ZDNet article > > http://news.com.com/2102-7344_3-6061491.html?tag=st.util.print Yes, I read this very same article with great interest (and what a good timing it had, considering our discuss

Re: Best Video Card

2006-04-19 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans, thank you for the information. I hadn't realized that the nv driver was written by nVidia. One point not in its favor, in addition to not doing 3D acceleration, is that it doesn't support 24/32 bit colour either. The "Debian blue swirl" that

Re: Best Video Card

2006-04-18 Thread Manaen Schlabach
On 4/17/06, Roy Pluschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 01:28 +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote: > > On Sat, 2006-04-15 at 15:01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I've seen reports that the free nv drivers are now as good as the > > > proprietary nvidia drivers. At lest some poste

Re: Best Video Card

2006-04-17 Thread Roy Pluschke
On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 01:28 +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote: > On Sat, 2006-04-15 at 15:01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I've seen reports that the free nv drivers are now as good as the > > proprietary nvidia drivers. At lest some posters on some of the linux > > groups seem to think so. Now

Re: Best Video Card

2006-04-16 Thread Manaen Schlabach
On 4/16/06, Manaen Schlabach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/16/06, John Carline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Manaen Schlabach wrote: > > > > >Well I am finally thinking about upgrading my tired old radeon 7500. > > >I know that ATI and Nvidia both have decent cards but their drivers >

Re: Best Video Card

2006-04-16 Thread Manaen Schlabach
On 4/16/06, John Carline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Manaen Schlabach wrote: > > >Well I am finally thinking about upgrading my tired old radeon 7500. > >I know that ATI and Nvidia both have decent cards but their drivers > >are completely closed. I know and understand that companies must > >

Re: Best Video Card

2006-04-16 Thread John Carline
Manaen Schlabach wrote: Well I am finally thinking about upgrading my tired old radeon 7500. I know that ATI and Nvidia both have decent cards but their drivers are completely closed. I know and understand that companies must protect some of their trade secrets but I would like very much to

Re: Best Video Card

2006-04-16 Thread Mark
Manaen Schlabach wrote: > Well I am finally thinking about upgrading my tired old radeon 7500. > I know that ATI and Nvidia both have decent cards but their drivers > are completely closed. I know and understand that companies must > protect some of their trade secrets but I would like very much

RE: Best Video Card

2006-04-16 Thread Lynn Kilroy
From: "Manaen Schlabach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well I am finally thinking about upgrading my tired old radeon 7500. I know that ATI and Nvidia both have decent cards but their drivers are completely closed. I know and understand that companies must protect some of their trade secrets but I would l

Re: Best Video Card

2006-04-15 Thread Rogério Brito
Hi, Manaen. On Apr 15 2006, Manaen Schlabach wrote: (...) > I know that ATI and Nvidia both have decent cards but their drivers > are completely closed. I know and understand that companies must > protect some of their trade secrets but I would like very much to > support a graphics manufacturer

Re: Best Video Card

2006-04-15 Thread Linas Žvirblis
> I've seen reports that the free nv drivers are now as good as the > proprietary nvidia drivers. If no hardware 3D acceleration is good enough for you, then they might be as good. Otherwise you are stuck with their proprietary drivers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

Re: Best Video Card

2006-04-15 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Sat, 2006-04-15 at 15:01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've seen reports that the free nv drivers are now as good as the > proprietary nvidia drivers. At lest some posters on some of the linux > groups seem to think so. Now maybe that's true only for a specific > model of nvidia card, a

Re: Best Video Card

2006-04-15 Thread hendrik
On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 01:28:09PM -0400, Manaen Schlabach wrote: > Well I am finally thinking about upgrading my tired old radeon 7500. > I know that ATI and Nvidia both have decent cards but their drivers > are completely closed. I know and understand that companies must > protect some of their

Re: Best Video Card

2006-04-15 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 01:28:09PM -0400, Manaen Schlabach wrote: > Well I am finally thinking about upgrading my tired old radeon 7500. > I know that ATI and Nvidia both have decent cards but their drivers > are completely closed. Their official drivers are completely closed, there are open-sour

Re: Best Video Card

2006-04-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 13:28:09 -0400 "Manaen Schlabach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well I am finally thinking about upgrading my tired old radeon 7500. Can I have that tired old radeon, to replace my very tired matrox G100? :) But only if it has a working TV-out ;) > I know that ATI and Nvidia

Re: best video card regarding license issues

2001-11-17 Thread nate
Steffen Evers said: > In particular, Alan Cox has picked out the Nvidea kernel modules as > a good example how a module "taints" the kernel and explained that > such tainted kernels will be not debugged in the future. > > So, what do you know about graphic cards regarding driver's > licenses? th

Re: best video card regarding license issues

2001-11-16 Thread Sean
On Fri, 2001-11-16 at 21:14, Brian Nelson wrote: > Steffen Evers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hello, > > > > I have followed the recent discussion about vidoe cards on the list. I > > have also been looking for a new video card and was thinking about a > > Nvidea card. However, I have read a

Re: best video card regarding license issues

2001-11-16 Thread Brian Nelson
Steffen Evers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, > > I have followed the recent discussion about vidoe cards on the list. I > have also been looking for a new video card and was thinking about a > Nvidea card. However, I have read about the license problems with > "tainting" (non-GPL) kernel mo