mick crane wrote:
> On 2020-10-13 00:46, Dan Ritter wrote:
> > mick crane wrote:
> > >
>
> This looks like good advice, thanks Dan and all.
> One thing I wonder about if I reboot and change boot order to start windows
> is if I might create some confusion on the network as pfsense PC does DHCP
>
On 2020-10-13 00:46, Dan Ritter wrote:
mick crane wrote:
might I ask a favour for information on accepted wisdom for this stuff
?
I being a home user have pfsense on old lenovo between ISP router and
switch
to PCs
another old buster lenovo doing email
another Buster PC I do bits of programmi
On 1/10/2014 4:18 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
PS:
On Fri, 2014-01-10 at 15:29 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
anyway, I had JUST LAST WEEK created a clonezilla backup on another
partition !
This is not a backup by definition! A backup has to be done on an
independent device, even not to another HDD
On 01/10/2014 04:15 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Clonezilla, rsync etc. do work, but why spending that much brain power
> for learning and/or trial and error? HDDs are inexpensive nowadays, so I
> prefer to do a simple tar.gz from another Linux install, without any
> kind of smart sync. I simply backu
PS:
On Fri, 2014-01-10 at 15:29 -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> anyway, I had JUST LAST WEEK created a clonezilla backup on another
> partition !
This is not a backup by definition! A backup has to be done on an
independent device, even not to another HDD that is mounted inside of
the computer. U
On 15/06/10 14:31, Tom Furie wrote:
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 01:02:47PM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:
On 15/06/10 12:44, Alan Chandler wrote:
The real magic command is "cp -alf" which essentially merges a shorter
term store with a longer term one, making new entries where the shorter
store has a
On 06/16/2010 05:45 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Ron Johnson put forth on 6/15/2010 10:59 AM:
I wrote a script that only backs up our data directories (including much
of /home) into a bunch of tarballs, excluding "junk" folders like
caches, thumbnails, trash, etc, and compressing most but not stuff
On Wednesday 16 June 2010 14:14:22 Camaleón wrote:
> Many people send the replies to me directly and I am not sure
> whether if they are full aware of that (intentionally off-list) or this
> is just the famous Gmail's webmail "non-reply-to-list-but-sender"
> error :-)
I forgot that Gmail does that
On Wednesday 16 June 2010 14:14:22 Camaleón wrote:
> but I asked you why you were so reluctant to use
> differential backups on her computer. I couldn't understand "why" because
> today backup tasks are just "point-and-click", I mean, they are easier to
> achieve than any image generation of the wh
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:05:56 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Wednesday 16 June 2010 08:41:03 Camaleón wrote:
>> El 2010-06-15 a las 22:58 +0100, Lisi escribió:
>>
>> (resending to the list)
>
> Sorry. I debated whether to send it to you or the list, and decided
> that it was OT for the list since I was
Ron Johnson put forth on 6/15/2010 10:59 AM:
> I wrote a script that only backs up our data directories (including much
> of /home) into a bunch of tarballs, excluding "junk" folders like
> caches, thumbnails, trash, etc, and compressing most but not stuff like
> image and OOo document directories
On Wednesday 16 June 2010 08:41:03 Camaleón wrote:
> El 2010-06-15 a las 22:58 +0100, Lisi escribió:
>
> (resending to the list)
Sorry. I debated whether to send it to you or the list, and decided that it
was OT for the list since I was commenting on a specific sentence of your
that wasn't stri
El 2010-06-15 a las 22:58 +0100, Lisi escribió:
(resending to the list)
> On Tuesday 15 June 2010 19:44:33 Camaleón wrote:
> > But it's "her" backup and "her" data. She should care about how to do
> > things like these, whatever place she is (home, university, work...).
>
> I was forgetting that
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 06:49:25PM +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 June 2010 18:06:51 Camaleón wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:48:04 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 15 June 2010 14:40:44 Camaleón wrote:
> > >> I would differentiate between "backup" data and "archived" data.
> >
> > (...)
>
On 06/15/2010 05:02 PM, Lisi wrote:
Sorry for duplicate everybody. The list has been rejecting my emails with my
usual SMTP set up. This means that I may think that something has gone when
it hasn't or vice versa.
Something like that happened to me a year or so ago when my ISP got
much stri
Sorry for duplicate everybody. The list has been rejecting my emails with my
usual SMTP set up. This means that I may think that something has gone when
it hasn't or vice versa.
Lisi
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On Tuesday 15 June 2010 19:09:28 Ron Johnson wrote:
> *Teach* her. She's in Uni, correct? Thus, she should be
> responsible enough to take care of her own data by sticking in a USB
> drive and running a script.
Two people divided by a common language
No, she's at school, where school in thi
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 19:09:28 Ron Johnson wrote:
> *Teach* her. She's in Uni, correct? Thus, she should be
> responsible enough to take care of her own data by sticking in a USB
> drive and running a script.
Two people divided by a common language
No, she's at school, where school in thi
On 06/15/2010 01:18 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
[snip]
I think the OP said something like: I have 1.3 TB and it's too big to
backup. This of course is patently ridiculous. meh.
Right. You're a fool to buy a Lexus if you can't afford the (way
more than bare legal minimum) auto insurance
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:49:25 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 June 2010 18:06:51 Camaleón wrote:
>> Why not practical? Just curious O:-)
>
> Because I shan't have hold of the computer for long enough or often
> enough!
But it's "her" backup and "her" data. She should care about how to do
thi
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 09:27:47PM +1000, Alexander Samad wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Lisi wrote:
> > Please excuse the thread breaking. I have suddenly been being rejected by
> > the
> > list server and am sending for the third time. I hope that the list server
> > is now happy w
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:59:46AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 06/15/2010 09:48 AM, Lisi wrote:
> >
> >Thanks for this. I was originally responding to Andrew's saying:
> >
> >There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big
> >enough to hold the data.
> >
> >
> >I can thin
On 06/15/2010 12:49 PM, Lisi wrote:
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 18:06:51 Camaleón wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:48:04 +0100, Lisi wrote:
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 14:40:44 Camaleón wrote:
I would differentiate between "backup" data and "archived" data.
(...)
Thanks for this. I was originally re
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 18:06:51 Camaleón wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:48:04 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > On Tuesday 15 June 2010 14:40:44 Camaleón wrote:
> >> I would differentiate between "backup" data and "archived" data.
>
> (...)
>
> > Thanks for this. I was originally responding to Andrew's say
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 06/15/2010 05:32 AM, Lisi wrote:
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 01:25:56 Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big
enough to hold the data.
Would you feel inclined to elaborate? I'm trying to solve this
problem for my
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:48:04 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 June 2010 14:40:44 Camaleón wrote:
>> I would differentiate between "backup" data and "archived" data.
(...)
> Thanks for this. I was originally responding to Andrew's saying:
>
> There are many many ways to make take backups bey
On 06/15/2010 09:48 AM, Lisi wrote:
Thanks for this. I was originally responding to Andrew's saying:
There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big
enough to hold the data.
I can think of very few - and was interested in what he was thinking of.
Incremental/differenti
On 06/15/2010 05:32 AM, Lisi wrote:
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 01:25:56 Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big
enough to hold the data.
Would you feel inclined to elaborate? I'm trying to solve this problem for my
granddaughter's large
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 14:40:44 Camaleón wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:32:15 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > On Tuesday 15 June 2010 01:25:56 Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >> There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big
> >> enough to hold the data.
> >
> > Would you feel incli
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:32:15 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 June 2010 01:25:56 Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big
>> enough to hold the data.
>
> Would you feel inclined to elaborate? I'm trying to solve this problem
> for m
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 01:02:47PM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:
> On 15/06/10 12:44, Alan Chandler wrote:
>
>> The real magic command is "cp -alf" which essentially merges a shorter
>> term store with a longer term one, making new entries where the shorter
>> store has a file that isn't in the longe
On 15/06/10 12:44, Alan Chandler wrote:
The real magic command is "cp -alf" which essentially merges a shorter
term store with a longer term one, making new entries where the shorter
store has a file that isn't in the longer term store, and overwriting it
where the shorter term store has a file
On 15/06/10 11:36, Lisi wrote:
On Tuesday 15 June 2010 01:25:56 Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big
enough to hold the data.
Would you feel inclined to elaborate? I'm trying to solve this problem for my
granddaughter's large HDD,
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Lisi wrote:
> Please excuse the thread breaking. I have suddenly been being rejected by the
> list server and am sending for the third time. I hope that the list server
> is now happy with my SMTP settings.
>
> On Tuesday 15 June 2010 01:25:56 Andrew Sackville-We
Alvin Oga wrote:
> - i see you haven't been hit with a power surge that took out
> everything connected to the power supply ...
Thankfully, no. I've also heard that if a voltage regulator chip goes out in
the power supply, then the results can be the same.
It would be nice if my other box with
Robert S wrote:
Thanks for the folks who advised me re backing up a running system. I'm
just testing mondo at the moment. Looks ideal for my purposes.
What files can safely be omitted from a debian system backup? Obvious ones
are /var/cache/apt/archives (if you're like me an hold onto these file
hi ya bradley
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Bradley M Alexander wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 01:25:21PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
...
> > i equate the "wireless" between to wirelss-pc to be the equivalent
> > of 2 wired=pcs..
> > - anybody ( in the world ) can sniff the copper wire
> > - an
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 01:25:21PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
>
> hi ya
>
> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Bradley M Alexander wrote:
>
> > Depends. I have wireless, and three things I do, from least to most
> > draconian:
> >
> > 1. Turn off SSID broadcasting.
> > 2. Turn on WEP as high as possible (DLinks
hi ya bob
...beg/borrow/steal a (real) dds1, dds2, dds3 ide tape drive...
- hp series, exabyte series, etc
and try to read/write to that drive
c ya
alvin
On 11 Aug 2001, Bob Koss wrote:
> > "Alvin" == Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Alvin> if the device is made prop
> "Alvin" == Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alvin> if the device is made properly... it should be like
Alvin> crw-rw 1 root disk 37, 0 May 5 1998 /dev/ht0
Alvin> until "ls -la /dev/ht0" looks liek the above line... there
Alvin> is no point to doing any mt/tar comm
> "Alvin" == Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alvin> so you do NOT have /dev/ht0 as a device
Alvin> manually creaate a device called /dev/ht0 with mknod...
Alvin> and give it the type, and major and minor id
Alvin> if the device is made properly... it should be like
hi ya bob...
mt is complaining
so you do NOT have /dev/ht0 as a device
until mt worksand you can hear the tape rewind and/or eject...
its NOT working yet...
manually creaate a device called /dev/ht0 with mknod...
and give it the type, and major and minor id
if the device is made
> "Alvin" == Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alvin> did you try: cd /dev ./MAKEDEV ht0
That's exactly what I did.
Alvin> = should work, if not...
Alvin> more info
Alvin> http://www-wsg.cso.uiuc.edu/resources/unixguide/devices.html
Alvin> you do it the
> "Alvin" == Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alvin> hi ya bob
Alvin> you created a file called /dev/ht0 that filled up the
Alvin> available space in / causes device full to tar
/dev/ht0 was supposed to go to my tape drive. Why didn't it???
--
Robert Koss, Ph.D.
> Alvin> you need to create a tape decice called /dev/ht0 and/or ln
> Alvin> -s /dev/hdc /dev/ht0 ( donno if it would work )
>
> Alvin>"MAKEDEV /dev/ht0" should work
>
> MAKDEV: don't know hot to make device "/dev/ht0"
>
> Now I seem to be screwed.
did you try:
cd /dev
hi ya bob
you created a file called /dev/ht0 that filled up the available
space in / causes device full to tar
c ya
alvin
On 10 Aug 2001, Bob Koss wrote:
>
> > "Alvin" == Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Alvin> if the device is full... you have too much data
>
>
> "Alvin" == Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alvin> you need to remove the file called /dev/ht0 that was
Alvin> created by the tar command when trying to write to tape
Alvin> that did not work...
Alvin> you need to create a tape decice called /dev/ht0 and/or ln
Alvin
> "Alvin" == Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alvin> if the device is full... you have too much data
The device isn't full. When I issued the tar command, it worked for a
few seconds and then gave me the error message. Nothing went to tape.
--
Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Train
hi ya bob
you need to remove the file called /dev/ht0
that was created by the tar command when trying to write to tape
that did not work...
you need to create a tape decice called /dev/ht0
and/or ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/ht0 ( donno if it would work )
"MAKEDEV /dev/ht0" should work
now do
hi ya bob
if the device is full... you have too much data
- remove all the junk files...
- core, /tmp, /var/log/ files you dont want
- use 2 tapes instead for the various "stuff"
- compress it instead
tar zcvbf 64 /dev/ht0 /stuff /moreStuff
- note the "z"
> "Michael" == Michael Heldebrant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Michael> You may need to install the ide-tape module if it's not
Michael> in the kernel you are running already.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log$ grep OnStream dmesg
hdc: OnStream DI-30, ATAPI TAPE drive
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var
On 10 Aug 2001 16:39:29 -0400, Bob Koss wrote:
>
> When this box was running RH, I would backup using my Onstream tape
> drive thusly:
>
> tar cvbf 64 /dev/ht0 /stuff /moreStuff
>
>
> With my recent Debian install, this no longer works, giving me a
> "device full" error.
>
> But, with the 2.2
Rob Mahurin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 12:59:08PM -0700, Alex Swavely wrote:
> > What file(s) would I need to backup to get a complete snapshot of all
> > installed packages from the distribution I'm using in order to be able to
> > recover a system to it's previous stat
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 12:59:08PM -0700, Alex Swavely wrote:
> What file(s) would I need to backup to get a complete snapshot of all
> installed packages from the distribution I'm using in order to be able to
> recover a system to it's previous state?
My nightly backup includes
/home
/root
/etc
on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 10:42:53PM -0700, Osamu Aoki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Willi Dyck had interesting trick. I knew --get-selections but did not
> use it with apt-get. I would do slightly different but this concept is
> interesting.
>
> # dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | cut -s
Willi Dyck had interesting trick. I knew --get-selections but did not
use it with apt-get. I would do slightly different but this concept is
interesting.
# dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | cut -s -f1 >installed.deb
# cat installed.db | xargs -n 10 apt-get install -d
Oh your Willi's v
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 12:59:08PM -0700, Alex Swavely wrote:
> What file(s) would I need to backup to get a complete snapshot of all
> installed packages from the distribution I'm using in order to be able to
> recover a system to it's previous state?
What about this: (as root of course)
~# dpkg
on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 12:59:08PM -0700, Alex Swavely ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> What file(s) would I need to backup to get a complete snapshot of all
> installed packages from the distribution I'm using in order to be able to
> recover a system to it's previous state?
To see what packages you
on Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 05:11:32PM -0500, Ken Weingold ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> I am going to be setting up Linux server at work for something and
> want to do backups, weekly I guess. Any suggestions on software to do
> this? I am not familiar with unix backups.
http://kmself.home.netc
Ken Weingold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am going to be setting up Linux server at work for something and
> want to do backups, weekly I guess. Any suggestions on software to do
> this? I am not familiar with unix backups.
Maybe not as sophisticated as the other suggested solutions, but I w
hi ya ken...
if you only want to save "weekly incremental backups" to
a second disk find and tar is easy/simple
otherwise there is tons of other apps that does it
- there are many issues to backups...
- backup disk is 100% full
- is $50-$xx,000 worth spending or backup sw o
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Ken Weingold wrote:
> I am going to be setting up Linux server at work for something and
> want to do backups, weekly I guess. Any suggestions on software to do
> this? I am not familiar with unix backups.
I can recommend the Ecrix SCSI DLT tape drive -- 66 Gb (or smaller)
BRU. It works. Well.
http://www.estinc.com
Mark
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 05:11:32PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote:
> I am going to be setting up Linux server at work for something and
> want to do backups, weekly I guess. Any suggestions on software to do
> this? I am not familiar with unix b
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 11:06:01PM +0100, Sven Hoexter wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 05:11:32PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote:
> > I am going to be setting up Linux server at work for something and
> > want to do backups, weekly I guess. Any suggestions on software to do
> > this? I am not familia
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 05:11:32PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote:
> I am going to be setting up Linux server at work for something and
> want to do backups, weekly I guess. Any suggestions on software to do
> this? I am not familiar with unix backups.
"There is more than one way to do it"
Out there a
One solution:
As root:
# cd /
# find . -xdev | afio -o -Z filename.afio
xdev tells find not to go across a mount boundry, so you may have to
list several root s for find, i.e.
# find . /root /other/dir /somewhere/else -xdev | afio -o -Z filename.afio
Of course, there a many ways to do this, s
I'd also add the result of dpkg --get-selections to a backup (redir the
output to a file).
Brandon
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| Throughout history, UNIX systems have
Hi Andrew,
When I make backups, I do not backup /dev (I do not use any devices that
have not been created automatically). I also backup /usr/local (including
all subdirs), because I keep some manually installed programmes there and
/boot, where I have a customized kernel (the modules are under
/li
On: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:29:57 -0500 (EST) servis writes:
>
> Hi all,
> I have a Seagate Tapestore 8G on a scsi-2 controller. When I back
> up my drives(ext2, vfat) and some smbfs mounted drives(over a 10-T)
> it seems to take too long. I am just using tar whith compression.
> Here are the stats
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I love tar it works great...
> >
> I think that last phrase should be qualified.
> I've had two instances where a physical error on the disk was not caught
> by tar. On both of those scenarios tar kept witting even though it was
> not possible to restore past that poi
On Mon, Sep 21, 1998 at 03:26:10PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Stephen J. Carpenter said
> > On Tue, Aug 04, 1998 at 11:22:29AM +0100, C.J.LAWSON wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >This is a bit off topic (and sorry I cannae answer any of your
> > > questions) ... Is tar ever used for backing up and i
Stephen J. Carpenter said
> On Tue, Aug 04, 1998 at 11:22:29AM +0100, C.J.LAWSON wrote:
> > Hi,
> >This is a bit off topic (and sorry I cannae answer any of your
> > questions) ... Is tar ever used for backing up and if not why not .. if it
> > is why is it not the defacto standard
> >
> > --
On Tue, Aug 04, 1998 at 11:22:29AM +0100, C.J.LAWSON wrote:
> Hi,
>This is a bit off topic (and sorry I cannae answer any of your
> questions) ... Is tar ever used for backing up and if not why not .. if it
> is why is it not the defacto standard
>
> --Jonathan
Well...I use tar...
In fact I
Hi,
This is a bit off topic (and sorry I cannae answer any of your
questions) ... Is tar ever used for backing up and if not why not .. if it
is why is it not the defacto standard
--Jonathan
On Sat, 1 Aug 1998, Johann Spies wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> I have come to the conclusion that I cannot ge
Thanks Hamish.
On Sat, 1 Aug 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> Most use ftape; I assume they all do. BRU2000 for example.
> I recommend subscribing to the linux-tape list to discuss this;
> write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text "subscribe linux-tape".
> Claus, ftape's maintainer, is very helpful a
On Sat, Aug 01, 1998 at 05:02:59AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
> I have come to the conclusion that I cannot get reliable backups using
> ftape and my Iomega Ditto 2Gb tape drive. While trying out the latest
> beta version of ftape, two of my tapes (one - 3.7 gig - was bought the day
> before) wer
On Wed, 20 May 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Wed, May 20, 1998 at 01:08:18PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > How did you get this to work at all? Last time I looked around on the web
> > (1.5 weeks ago) all I could find was a page that said that Ditto units
> > were not supported and that
On Wed, May 20, 1998 at 01:08:18PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How did you get this to work at all? Last time I looked around on the web
> (1.5 weeks ago) all I could find was a page that said that Ditto units
> were not supported and that driver development was in foetal stage.
>
> I'm real
On Wed, 20 May 1998, Johann Spies wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> I would like to hear whether there is somebody using the Iomega-ditto 2Gb
> tape drive for reliable backups.
>
> I have tried out tbackup, but the documentation says it is not supposed to
> handle a lot of files - 30 000 if I remember corre
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