Re: aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get upgrade.

2020-10-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 27 oct 20, 13:03:32, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 27 Oct 2020 at 15:05:36 (+0200), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Lu, 26 oct 20, 09:55:00, John Hasler wrote: > > > > I believe someone demonstrated quite recently on list that dpkg has some > > limits in the number and/or combination of packag

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get upgrade.

2020-10-27 Thread David Wright
On Tue 27 Oct 2020 at 15:05:36 (+0200), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 26 oct 20, 09:55:00, John Hasler wrote: > > Andrei writes: > > > dpkg does its own dependency checking, in addition to APT (the > > > software, not the command), and will prevent any inconsistencies > > > unless you use one of t

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get upgrade.

2020-10-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 26 oct 20, 09:55:00, John Hasler wrote: > Andrei writes: > > dpkg does its own dependency checking, in addition to APT (the > > software, not the command), and will prevent any inconsistencies > > unless you use one of the --force switches. > > What it does not do is resolve dependencies.

Re: Re: aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get upgrade.

2020-10-26 Thread R. Ramesh
So, if you don't pin down the priority of deb-multimedia, virtually every audio- and video-related package on your system will be replaced with the deb-multimedia version, which for the sake of stability is very likely a bad idea. So it is safer to lower the priority of deb-multimedia and that of

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get upgrade.

2020-10-26 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 11:58:18 -0500 "R. Ramesh" wrote: (...) > I have these exact lines in my sources.list also. I thought we have > backports so that we can get the newer version of packages. For > example, buster multimedia has mythtv 0.30 and backports has mythtv > 0.31 (the last time I

Re: Re: aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get upgrade.

2020-10-26 Thread R. Ramesh
To resolve this, you might consider to create a file like e.g. /etc/apt/preferences.d/multimedia . Here the content of that file looks like: Package: * Pin: release o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,n=buster Pin-Priority: 332 Package: * Pin: release o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,n=buster-back

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get upgrade.

2020-10-26 Thread John Hasler
Andrei writes: > dpkg does its own dependency checking, in addition to APT (the > software, not the command), and will prevent any inconsistencies > unless you use one of the --force switches. What it does not do is resolve dependencies. Apt recursively resolves dependencies, installing them as r

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get upgrade.

2020-10-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 25 oct 20, 21:00:03, Joe wrote: > > Synaptic, the GUI tool, is a front end to apt-get. All the apt tools > are a front end to dpkg, which does all the work but does no dependency > checking and is therefore not safe to be used directly. dpkg does its own dependency checking, in addition to

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get upgrade.

2020-10-25 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 17:53:16 -0500 "R. Ramesh" wrote: (...) > Nothing fancy. Installed debian 10 from USB and added multi-media and > installed mythfrontend. That is all I have done. > This is a NUC Pentium (N3700) box and not fancy at all.  Here is my > kernel (...) > My apt-get/aptitud

Re: Re: aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get upgrade.

2020-10-25 Thread R. Ramesh
To begin with, which distribution is it? In general, with Stable, it pretty much doesn't matter which tool is used. The kind of problems you have indicate Unstable or Testing. First, apt is pretty much apt-get, with different syntax and a few extra features. Aptitude can generally do a better job

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade vs apt-get upgrade.

2020-10-25 Thread Joe
On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 12:12:19 -0500 Ram Ramesh wrote: > Hi, > >   I am trying to upgrade the current setup and I am unable to > understand the differences between aptitude vs. apt-get usage. > When I do apt-get -s upgrade, I get > > myth2 [rramesh] 100 > sudo apt-get -s upgrade > > Reading pack

Re: Re: aptitude safe-upgrade stops with a timeout.

2012-08-08 Thread Dominique Brazziel
It may be due to dbus request for packagekit. From 'apt-config dump | grep 'DPkg::Post-Invoke': <* snip *> DPkg::Post-Invoke:: "/usr/bin/test -e /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.PackageKit.service && /usr/bin/test -S /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket && /usr/bin/gdbus call --system

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade stops with a timeout.

2012-05-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:49:40AM -0400, songbird wrote: > Guo Yixuan wrote: > > if this is not a typo on your part then > this could be a problem elsewhere: > > "tassksel-data" is not a package, but "tasksel-data" is... > > > Searching "Timeout was reached" in aptitude's source code doesn'

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade stops with a timeout.

2012-05-15 Thread songbird
Guo Yixuan wrote: >Hendrik Boom wrote: >> I just did a routine >> >> aptitude safe-upgrade >> >> from the root command-line on an 1386 Debian testing system. Here are >> the past few lines in its output. Is this anything to worry about? Or >> just an unimportant problem that will fix itself in

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade stops with a timeout.

2012-05-15 Thread Guo Yixuan
On 04/10/2012 12:52 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I just did a routine aptitude safe-upgrade from the root command-line on an 1386 Debian testing system. Here are the past few lines in its output. Is this anything to worry about? Or just an unimportant problem that will fix itself in some future

Re: Aptitude safe-upgrade..........

2011-03-18 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:22 +1100, Charlie wrote: > > Have never seen this previously with and just > wondered what was going on? Using 100%of CPU? > > Current status: 44 updates [+44], 2054 new [+252]. > There are 10 newly obsolete packages: libebml0, libgs8, libmatroska0, > librasqal2, libwp

Re: "aptitude safe-upgrade" in sid has several broken packages

2009-10-09 Thread Tim Tebbit
JF Pirl wrote: 8< > By the way, is the graphical ugliness of some days ago in Sid solved > now? (when logging in, GTK/the gnome-panels seemed to be broken or > something, and some panel applets did not want to work, as well as no > direct shutdown possibilities in the gdm session - I swit

Re: "aptitude safe-upgrade" in sid has several broken packages

2009-10-09 Thread JF Pirl
Hello, You might as well do a simple aptitude install epiphany-browser (if my memory doesn't fail, it will warn you about the fact that epiphany-gecko - and possibly epiphany-extensions-more - will have to be removed, which is no problem as they are now obsolete). By the way, is the graphical ugl

Re: "aptitude safe-upgrade" in sid has several broken packages

2009-10-08 Thread Tomek Kruszona
Rick Thomas wrote: Thanks for the suggestion... But I think there's something I don't understand... From the package descriptions, it sounds like the epiphany folks are headed in the direction of epiphany-browser and away from epiphany-webkit. Wouldn't installing epiphany-webkit be a step b

Re: "aptitude safe-upgrade" in sid has several broken packages

2009-10-08 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 8, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Tomek Kruszona wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: The following packages are BROKEN: epiphany-browser epiphany-extensions-more libgnokii4 python-qt4 Hello! Regarding epiphany: It seems has something in common with epiphany gecko to webkit transition. Try installing epi

Re: "aptitude safe-upgrade" in sid has several broken packages

2009-10-08 Thread Tomek Kruszona
Rick Thomas wrote: The following packages are BROKEN: epiphany-browser epiphany-extensions-more libgnokii4 python-qt4 Hello! Regarding epiphany: It seems has something in common with epiphany gecko to webkit transition. Try installing epiphany-webkit. It should remove obsolete packages and

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade and kde4 transition

2009-04-08 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 06:59:27AM +0200, Sven Joachim was heard to say: > On 2009-04-08 04:40 +0200, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 08:23:55AM +0200, Sven Joachim > > was heard to say: > >> > >> But not the transition to kde4, since right now I cannot upgrade > >> anythi

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade and kde4 transition

2009-04-07 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-04-08 04:40 +0200, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 08:23:55AM +0200, Sven Joachim was > heard to say: >> >> But not the transition to kde4, since right now I cannot upgrade >> anything: > > BTW, I have learned that if you pass "-o aptitude::delete-unused=false" > as an

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade and kde4 transition (was: Upgrade to Sid from Squeeze not happy...)

2009-04-07 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 08:23:55AM +0200, Sven Joachim was heard to say: > On 2009-04-06 08:59 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > > > On a side note, I never use the full-upgrade command because it has the > > potential to remove a huge number of packages, and safe-upgrade handles > > most situations

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade and kde4 transition (was: Upgrade to Sid from Squeeze not happy...)

2009-04-07 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 08:23:55AM +0200, Sven Joachim was heard to say: > On 2009-04-06 08:59 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > > > On a side note, I never use the full-upgrade command because it has the > > potential to remove a huge number of packages, and safe-upgrade handles > > most situations

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade and kde4 transition (was: Upgrade to Sid from Squeeze not happy...)

2009-04-07 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 08:23:55AM +0200, Sven Joachim was heard to say: > Oh well. :-( Looks like I'll have to try the experimental aptitude. Just FYI, I expect to upload a new version in the next week or two with a whole pile of fixes for the dependency solver. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade says libgnomekbd-common is being kept back on sid powerpc systems

2008-12-02 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-12-02 21:28 +0100, Rick Thomas wrote: > When I do "aptitude safe-upgrade" on my sid powerpc systems, it says > that libgnomekbd-common is being kept back. This has been going on > for a week or more. > > It doesn't do that on my sid i386 systems. > > It doesn't seem to be hurting anything

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade says libgnomekbd-common is being kept back on sid powerpc systems

2008-12-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 2, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: When I do "aptitude safe-upgrade" on my sid powerpc systems, it says that libgnomekbd-common is being kept back. This has been going on for a week or more. It doesn't do that on my sid i386 systems. It doesn't seem to be hurting anything..

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade hanging

2008-02-16 Thread Tobias Nissen
Steve Lamb wrote: > Tobias Nissen wrote: [...] >> When in the "Preconfiguring"-stage, does `ps aux` show something >> unusual? > > Looks like it is hanging on exim's preconfig? Try purging exim4 (if you customised your config, save it beforehand) and then do the safe-upgrade. If that finishe

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade hanging

2008-02-16 Thread Steve Lamb
Tobias Nissen wrote: > Does `aptitude -v` give relevant additional output? Nope. > When in the "Preconfiguring"-stage, does `ps aux` show something unusual? Looks like it is hanging on exim's preconfig? root 19494 7.3 14.7 52668 38816 pts/1Sl+ 10:59 0:17 aptitude -v safe-up

Re: aptitude safe-upgrade hanging

2008-02-16 Thread Tobias Nissen
Steve Lamb wrote: > Any ideas why aptitude is hanging at "Preconfiguring Packages..." > on a safe-upgrade? This is in testing. [...] Does `aptitude -v` give relevant additional output? When in the "Preconfiguring"-stage, does `ps aux` show something unusual? Regards, Tobias pgpnPdVbGTenG.