Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1999-02-08 Thread Richard Lyon
> There's not really a solution to that, ever, for an OS distributed on the > Internet. MS distributes boot floppies with their non-upgrade OS products > for the same reason. > > Well, there is one solution.. just convince the BIOS manufacturers to include > PPP code in the BIOS which can dialup a

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1999-02-07 Thread Hamish Moffatt
> On Aug 21, Paul Wade wrote > > Does Microsoft contribute to my personal autonomy? If so, I prefer > > anarchy. Linux is revolutionary in nature. What if Linus had decided > > instead to develop something that required Windows or SCO Unix? I notice > > that the people behind Debian like to avoid d

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1999-02-05 Thread Mike Schmitz
On Aug 21, Paul Wade wrote > > Long live anarchy! Long live the Revolution and the Counter-Revolution! > Long live the Dedicated Diehard Debianist! > > I will be running a special on 1.3.whatever_it_really_is binary CD's > starting this weekend and continuing for at least one month. Longer if > t

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-23 Thread Dave Cinege
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 15:34:41 +0200 (MET DST), E.L. Meijer \(Eric\) wrote: >> >> This is why there have ben how many changes to 1.3.1, and it's still called 1.3.1? > >That is an error you can criticize. It was not done on purpose, and >therefore you cannot claim it is a severe flaw in the policy.

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-22 Thread john
Bruce writes: > Have you tried dselect's FTP method yet? It does that update > automaticaly. That's why I said it's easy. >From the dslect "help" screen: > ftp - Install using ftp. > Installation using ftp, you must know a ftp site and the correct > directory for a debian distribution. But wha

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Dave" == Dave Cinege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dave> Bull. It puts other at odds with the 'officials' in the Dave> project. There is no reason someone couldn't have come up with Dave> this 'stable' release CD on their own. There is no reseason Dave> Bruce could not have done it, and offer

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-22 Thread stick
> > On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:14:05 -0700 (PDT), George Bonser wrote: > > >On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Mike Schmitz wrote: > > > >Oh, horsehockey. Bandwidth does not grow on trees. Neither do systems. > >It is impossible to plant a seed and grow a system, it takes money. If > >you can show that you are

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-22 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Aug 21, George Bonser wrote: > On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Mike Schmitz wrote: > > > myself in alignment with David Cinege and Paul Wade. I do not think that > > _any_ decision should be made on business, marketing, or political reasons, > > Whatever the cost, ONLY quality of the code and distributio

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-22 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
Dave Cinege: > You just don't get it. Debian is not supposed to be a company!!! > Debian is supposed to be the efforts of it's developers! When > you say Debian Inc should do xx, you're not saying the devs > should do it but the few (one?) guys directly in charge of Debian > Inc. This is the

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-22 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
Dave Cinege: > > On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:13:22 +0200 (MET DST), E.L. Meijer \(Eric\) wrote: > > >Dave Cinege: > >> A donation to 'debian' meant supporting the deveopers directly in some > >> way, > >> offering bandwidth, and contributing to the project. There were no direct > >> bills to > pay

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-22 Thread Dave Cinege
On Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:13:22 +0200 (MET DST), E.L. Meijer \(Eric\) wrote: >Dave Cinege: >> A donation to 'debian' meant supporting the deveopers directly in some way, >> offering bandwidth, and contributing to the project. There were no direct >> bills to pay. >> The project could never fold un

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-22 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
Dave Cinege: > A donation to 'debian' meant supporting the deveopers directly in some way, > offering bandwidth, and contributing to the project. There were no direct > bills to pay. > The project could never fold unless the developers decided to just walk away. > > Then Debian suddenly had to g

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-22 Thread Dave Cinege
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:14:05 -0700 (PDT), George Bonser wrote: >On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Mike Schmitz wrote: > >> myself in alignment with David Cinege and Paul Wade. I do not think that >> _any_ decision should be made on business, marketing, or political reasons, >> Whatever the cost, ONLY quality

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-22 Thread Bruce Perens
Bruce writes: > The FTP update is easy. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I just took a look at the ftp site. Can't say I agree with you (though it > is better). Have you tried dselect's FTP method yet? It does that update automaticaly. That's why I said it's easy. Bruce -- Can you get your op

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-22 Thread Mike Schmitz
On Aug 21, Paul Wade wrote > > Long live anarchy! Long live the Revolution and the Counter-Revolution! > Long live the Dedicated Diehard Debianist! > > I will be running a special on 1.3.whatever_it_really_is binary CD's > starting this weekend and continuing for at least one month. Longer if > t

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-22 Thread john
Bruce writes: > The FTP update is easy. I just took a look at the ftp site. Can't say I agree with you (though it is better). -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money fro

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-21 Thread Paul Wade
On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Paul Serice wrote: > > Does Microsoft contribute to my personal autonomy? If so, I prefer > > anarchy. > > > Perhaps Microsoft does. Perhaps it doesn't. But, I'm almost certain > "Greenbush Technologies Corporation" does. ;-) > ^^^ There

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-21 Thread Paul Serice
> On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Paul Serice wrote: > > > Now for your anarchist side, when governments become overbearing they > > tend to nationalize -- meaning they take property away from > > corporations (and other private organizations or individuals) for the > > supposed general welfare. So, it is no

Re: Anarchy! Yes, Anarchy!

1997-08-21 Thread bruce
From: Paul Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I will be running a special on 1.3.whatever_it_really_is binary CD's > starting this weekend and continuing for at least one month. Longer if > that's what it takes to clean this up. I will make it cheaper to get a > 1.3.really_current binary CD than the 1.3.1