Re: ..neat wee litigation trap, was: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux

2012-05-12 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 05:52:49PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..another question is, what kinda performance enhanchement can > zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux deliver, 5%, 50% or even 500%, compared > to the best GPL file systems? And, no risk of vendor lock-in? Performance is a multi-faceted thing: Yo

Re: ..neat wee litigation trap, was: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux

2012-05-12 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 08:25:04AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > If it's a problem with the module, contact the module maintainers. If it's a > problem with the kernel, unload the module, and contact the kernel > maintainers. I don't see the problem. Please read up on tainted mode. You can't just

Re: ..neat wee litigation trap, was: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux

2012-05-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 12 May 2012 09:09:14 +0100, Jon wrote in message <20120512080914.GD27051@debian>: > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:27:36AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > > And it's not a problem as a kernel module either, seeing as though > > it's the user who has to manually load it. For that, the license >

Re: ..neat wee litigation trap, was: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux

2012-05-12 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 09:09:14AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > It's a problem if you ever want help if/when there's a bug or problem with the > module, since the kernel will be marked 'tainted'. If it's a problem with the module, contact the module maintainers. If it's a problem with the kernel, u

Re: ..neat wee litigation trap, was: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux

2012-05-12 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:27:36AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > And it's not a problem as a kernel module either, seeing as though it's the > user who has to manually load it. For that, the license could be > proprietarded. It's a problem if you ever want help if/when there's a bug or problem wit

Re: ..neat wee litigation trap, was: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux

2012-05-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 11 May 2012 09:27:36 -0600, Aaron wrote in message <20120511152735.gn21...@eightyeight.xmission.com>: > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 02:32:54PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > > Yes that's what I was referring to. The CDDL is incompatible with > > the GPL, but it is fine with the BSD license, so D

Re: ..neat wee litigation trap, was: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux

2012-05-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 11 May 2012 14:32:54 +0100, Jon wrote in message <20120511133254.GD1319@debian>: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 06:40:53PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..it is (at least in theory) possible to crack both GNU/Linux and > > */kfreeBSD at the same time, and it is also possible to attack > > GN

Re: ..neat wee litigation trap, was: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux

2012-05-11 Thread Aaron Toponce
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 02:32:54PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > Yes that's what I was referring to. The CDDL is incompatible with the GPL, but > it is fine with the BSD license, so Debian GNU/KFreeBSD doesn't have those > problems. And it's not a problem as a kernel module either, seeing as though

Re: ..neat wee litigation trap, was: zfs-fuse or zfsonlinux

2012-05-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 06:40:53PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..it is (at least in theory) possible to crack both GNU/Linux and > */kfreeBSD at the same time, and it is also possible to attack > GNU Hurd at the same time as the former 2, even if I agree with > Microsoft FUD that by extension hol