Re: Year 2000 status of debian

1999-06-14 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 10:12:52 +0100, John Lines wrote: > I am having a very hard time trying to get a Debian system installed due > to it not being year 2000 compliant. (as compared to Redhat > (http://www.redhat.com/corp/legal_statement.html#y2k) - whose statement is > actually useless for know

Re: Year 2000 status of debian

1999-06-14 Thread Michael Talbot-Wilson
Wait a while. In six months no-one will care.

Re: Year 2000 compliance

1998-07-30 Thread sjc
On Wed, Jul 29, 1998 at 08:18:36AM -0700, Alexander wrote: > Hi... > > Linux has no Y2K issues aside from the BIOS. It's that simple. However, > sometime in the 2030s, it will have some time_t problems if not fixed by > then. They should be, although you will probably need to upgrade your > embedd

Re: Year 2000 compliance

1998-07-29 Thread Alexander
Hi... Linux has no Y2K issues aside from the BIOS. It's that simple. However, sometime in the 2030s, it will have some time_t problems if not fixed by then. They should be, although you will probably need to upgrade your embedded system if you want it to keep running after then. Alex On Thu, 23

Re: Year 2000 compliance

1998-07-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Jul 25, 1998 at 09:17:51PM -0700, Alexander wrote: > Any and all UNIX systems are fully Y2K compliant, as long as the hardware I think this statement is naive. Although the kernel may represent all time values as time_t, you cannot guarantee that all applications do, and since there are ra

Re: Year 2000 compliance

1998-07-26 Thread Alexander
o: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Year 2000 compliance > Resent-Date: 23 Jul 1998 18:04:54 - > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ; > > *-Rick Fadler (23 Jul) > | > | Does anyone have any

Re: Year 2000 compliance

1998-07-23 Thread servis
*-Rick Fadler (23 Jul) | | Does anyone have any information on this? | http://www.debian.org/news#19980104 -- Brian Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubsc

Re: Year 2000

1997-11-04 Thread bewhite
Arran, Although linux may be "year 2000 safe," You also must assure that all application programs are also clean. It much more likely that an application program will will have the "fatal" hidden flaw that will bring you down. Ben ---

Re: Year 2000

1997-11-03 Thread Bruce Perens
There is a year-2000 problem we know of that is connected to your PC's BIOS and clock chip. The BIOS and clock chip of many systems store a two-digit year. This is a separate issue from the Linux kernel clock, which is all software. Linux uses a program to read the hardware clock into the software

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-24 Thread Richard Ayres
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: > Before 100 people jump to correct me, yes, time_t overflows after > Tuesday, January 19, 03:14:07 2038. Fixing this requires that time_t by > typedefed as a 64-bit quantity and then programs using it must be > recompiled. One would hope that the world can

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-24 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
Andy Dougherty wrote: > > Groff-1.10 had a couple of problems in some of the macro packages. > [...] > (This may all be corrected in 1.3.1 -- I don't have access to a > 1.3.1 system now to check. I know it's been reported to the groff > maintainer, but I haven't checked whether the groff-1.11 fix

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-22 Thread Andy Dougherty
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Richard L Shepherd wrote: > Not sure if this has been thrashed out before: > > Is Debian (or Linux in general) year 2000 *safe*? I'm not even sure what > that means precisely, but I'm responsible for finding out round here and > wondered if it's been discussed on this group.

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-22 Thread Andy Kahn
"Darin Johnson" wrote: -> -> > Before 100 people jump to correct me, yes, time_t overflows after -> > Tuesday, January 19, 03:14:07 2038. Fixing this requires that time_t by -> > typedefed as a 64-bit quantity and then programs using it must be -> > recompiled. One would hope that the world can

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-22 Thread Darin Johnson
> Before 100 people jump to correct me, yes, time_t overflows after > Tuesday, January 19, 03:14:07 2038. Fixing this requires that time_t by > typedefed as a 64-bit quantity and then programs using it must be > recompiled. One would hope that the world can find something better > than POSIX,

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-22 Thread Bruce Perens
Before 100 people jump to correct me, yes, time_t overflows after Tuesday, January 19, 03:14:07 2038. Fixing this requires that time_t by typedefed as a 64-bit quantity and then programs using it must be recompiled. One would hope that the world can find something better than POSIX, C, and Unix by

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-22 Thread Bruce Perens
There is some dispute over whether it's 2038 or later. In any case, one only need define time_t to be 64 bits and it will last until the heat-death of the universe. Bruce -- Can you get your operating system fixed when you need it? Linux - the supportable operating system. http://www.debi

Year 2038 problem (was Re: Year 2000 & Debian)

1997-10-22 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:51:07 +1000 Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Oct 21, 1997 at 08:15:00PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote: >> I ran my system with the date in the year 2000 for a few weeks. I could not >> find any problems. Unix was never so dumb as to store the century as two >> d

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-22 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 21, 1997 at 08:15:00PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote: > I ran my system with the date in the year 2000 for a few weeks. I could not > find any problems. Unix was never so dumb as to store the century as two > digits. Richard Stallman and FSF have been testing this, too. > > The biggest pro

Re: Year 2000 & Debian

1997-10-22 Thread Bruce Perens
I ran my system with the date in the year 2000 for a few weeks. I could not find any problems. Unix was never so dumb as to store the century as two digits. Richard Stallman and FSF have been testing this, too. The biggest problem that may happen has to do with the motherboard BIOS and the PC cloc

Re: Year 2000 and samba...

1997-07-19 Thread Joey Hess
Thomas Baetzler wrote: > I suppose this would work the same way as setting up any other remote > printer: by creating a set of two spools. SDee the details in the > LPR-HOWTO. Where is the lpr howto? I don't see it in the debian howto package. -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILIN

Re: Year 2000

1997-07-19 Thread Bob Clark
Ralph Winslow wrote: > > Syd Alsobrook wrote: > > > > Just a curious question, does anyone know if linux in general and > Debian in > > particular are year 2000 compliant? > > We're OK until 2017 (and since I'll surely have a 64-bit system by > then, > 'til hell freezes over) for 32-bit systems.

Re: Year 2000

1997-07-18 Thread Ralph Winslow
Syd Alsobrook wrote: > > Just a curious question, does anyone know if linux in general and Debian in > particular are year 2000 compliant? We're OK until 2017 (and since I'll surely have a 64-bit system by then, 'til hell freezes over) for 32-bit systems. > > It would be a shame if we came down

Re: Year 2000 and samba...

1997-07-18 Thread Douglas Bates
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Baetzler) writes: > James C. Carr wrote: > : As far as I've been told, though I haven't actually tried it, > :the Linux kernel functions up to the year 2037. How that works, I'm > :not entirely sure... > > The Unix timestamp is represented as time_t, which is usuall

Re: Year 2000 and samba...

1997-07-18 Thread Thomas Baetzler
James C. Carr wrote: : As far as I've been told, though I haven't actually tried it, :the Linux kernel functions up to the year 2037. How that works, I'm :not entirely sure... The Unix timestamp is represented as time_t, which is usually a signed long value. A date is represented a the numb

Re: Year 2000 and samba...

1997-07-18 Thread James C. Carr
As far as I've been told, though I haven't actually tried it, the Linux kernel functions up to the year 2037. How that works, I'm not entirely sure... Anyhow, I've got a question of my own: Has anyone successfully gotten a filter to use gs on a .ps file AND send it to a networked

Re: year-2000 testing

1997-04-28 Thread David Wright
On Sun, 27 Apr 1997, Sam Ockman wrote: > Message from Bruce Perens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > If you can do so, please try running your system with the date in the year > > 2000 for a while. Richard Stallman asked if we had tested that GNU software > > is free of year-2000 problems, and I think it's

Re: year-2000 testing

1997-04-27 Thread Sam Ockman
Message from Bruce Perens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > If you can do so, please try running your system with the date in the year > 2000 for a while. Richard Stallman asked if we had tested that GNU software > is free of year-2000 problems, and I think it's a good idea. Fortunately > we don't have too ma

Re: year-2000 testing

1997-04-26 Thread Bruce Perens
Did anyone test _emacs_ for year-2000 problems? Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail

Re: year-2000 testing

1997-04-26 Thread Behan Webster
Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: > > If you can do so, please try running your system with the date in the year > > 2000 for a while. Richard Stallman asked if we had tested that GNU software > > is free of year-2000 problems, and I think it's a good idea. Fo

Re: year-2000 testing

1997-04-26 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) writes: > If you can do so, please try running your system with the date in the year > 2000 for a while. Richard Stallman asked if we had tested that GNU software > is free of year-2000 problems, and I think it's a good idea. Fortunately > we don't have too many COB