Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-05-15 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 16 apr 11, 12:35:05, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > Hmm, from my (limited) experience and a lot of d-u lurking I can think > of two possible approaches to this: ("this" being multiple systems, possibly even different distros on the same machine) > 1. shared /boot > > Assuming other distros'

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-05-14 Thread Joel Rees
Can I blame this on lack of sleep? configuration files and dmesg pasted at bottom. Sorry about more huge repeats. On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:14 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-05-14 Thread Joel Rees
It occurs to me that hardware (disk controllers, motherboard) may be relevant, so I'm pasting the dmesg in at the bottom. Sorry about the repeat. On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:14 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Joel Rees wrot

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-05-14 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Joel Rees wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Joel R

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-16 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Joel Rees wrote: The grub2 developers decided that

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 11 apr 11, 11:49:32, Joel Rees wrote: > > Sure, when debian updates its kernel, dpkg (I assume) will know to > re-run update-grub or call the lower level routines directly. But when > I run yum update in Fedora, how does debian know about that? > > So, I have to watch the packages yum grab

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Tom H wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > > > >>> The grub2 developers decided that most people wouldn't want to set up >>> chainloads and

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Vi, 08 apr 11, 09:56:43, Joel Rees wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Andrei Popescu >> wrote: >> > >> > You can set GRUB_DEFAULT to the complete name of an entry, then you >> > won't have to worry about reordering. >> >> Well, I

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-08 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> The grub2 developers decided that most people wouldn't want to set up >> chainloads and would want update-grub to add all the available >> ins

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-08 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Vi, 08 apr 11, 09:56:43, Joel Rees wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Andrei Popescu >> wrote: >> > >> > You can set GRUB_DEFAULT to the complete name of an entry, then you >> > won't have to worry about reordering. >> >> Well, I

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 08 apr 11, 09:56:43, Joel Rees wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Andrei Popescu > wrote: > > > > You can set GRUB_DEFAULT to the complete name of an entry, then you > > won't have to worry about reordering. > > Well, I was thinking about that, but the names of the kernels change >

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-07 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:47 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mi, 06 apr 11, 23:56:56, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> Another problem is the fragile linkage. If Debian ends up with more >> than two entries there, or if, for some reason I delete the rescue >> mode entry, having the third entry as the default

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-07 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 06 apr 11, 23:56:56, Joel Rees wrote: > > Another problem is the fragile linkage. If Debian ends up with more > than two entries there, or if, for some reason I delete the rescue > mode entry, having the third entry as the default suddenly is not what > I want. Maybe that won't happen with

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-07 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> [...] > F15's failure may or may not be grub's fault... F15's in alpha mode so > it's most probably F15 but we can't tell from your posts. Actually, it's looking like my new drive has hardware issu

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-07 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Dom wrote: I don't use chain loading, so am not sure how to do that. I think grub2 should autom

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-07 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Huang, Tao wrote: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote: >> >> 1. Set "GRUB_DEFAULT=saved" in "/etc/default/grub" and run >> "grub-set-default "; update-grub". You will then always boot by >> default with the last kernel with which you booted. > > you don

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-07 Thread Joel Rees
(Not sure what I can trim, yet.) On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Tom H wrote: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Dom wrote: >>> On 19/03/11 13:29, Joel Rees wrote: I'm having the devil of a time trying to figure out how to set the

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-06 Thread Huang, Tao
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Tom H wrote: [snip] > 1. Set "GRUB_DEFAULT=saved" in "/etc/default/grub" and run > "grub-set-default "; update-grub". You will then always boot by > default with the last kernel with which you booted. you dont boot with the the last entry you used unless you had th

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-06 Thread Huang, Tao
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Joel Rees wrote: [snip] > Another problem is the fragile linkage. If Debian ends up with more > than two entries there, or if, for some reason I delete the rescue > mode entry, having the third entry as the default suddenly is not what > I want. Maybe that won't ha

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-06 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Dom wrote: >> On 19/03/11 13:29, Joel Rees wrote: >>> >>> I'm having the devil of a time trying to figure out how to set the >>> default boot and how to chain in grub 2 in squeeze. >>> >>> I found something abou

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-04-06 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Dom wrote: > On 19/03/11 13:29, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> I really didn't have much problem with grub 1, just edit menu.lst . >> >> I'm having the devil of a time trying to figure out how to set the >> default boot and how to chain in grub 2 in squeeze. >> >> I found

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-03-19 Thread Dom
On 19/03/11 13:29, Joel Rees wrote: I really didn't have much problem with grub 1, just edit menu.lst . I'm having the devil of a time trying to figure out how to set the default boot and how to chain in grub 2 in squeeze. I found something about using update grub and setting the default boot i

Re: [help-a-newb] setting grub

2011-03-19 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi Joel, Joel Rees wrote: I really didn't have much problem with grub 1, just edit menu.lst . I'm having the devil of a time trying to figure out how to set the default boot and how to chain in grub 2 in squeeze. I found something about using update grub and setting the default boot in a fle i