Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 06:50:07PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I believe im currently blocked by Spamcop despite not being a spammer... You are not being blocked by Spamcop. Stop thinking this. If you're listed (which you're not, I just checked based on the headers; I'd appreciate the effo

RE: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-08 Thread Hell.Surfers
I believe im currently blocked by Spamcop despite not being a spammer... McEwan Family On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:41:20 -0900 Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Begin Message --- > SpamCop is a rather arbitrarily-run service that has received a lot of > criticism for blocking whole IP ranges, thereb

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-08 Thread DvB
Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > DvB wrote: > > > Kind of hard when your ISP is Yahoo! and you're not willing to pay for > > their pop server :-) > > apt-get install fetchyahoo > > I've been using it for months in a cron job. Works quite nicely. > Awesome! Thanks :-) -- To UNSUB

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-08 Thread Craig Dickson
DvB wrote: > Kind of hard when your ISP is Yahoo! and you're not willing to pay for > their pop server :-) apt-get install fetchyahoo I've been using it for months in a cron job. Works quite nicely. Craig -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:04:48AM -0600, Nathan E Norman wrote: > I'm sure no one would advocate illegal means of retribution against > spamhausen. Question: Is it in violation of any international laws to report to the Chinese government a spammer inside thier borders along with the claim that

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-08 Thread DvB
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:15:23AM -0600, DvB wrote: > > Kind of hard when your ISP is Yahoo! and you're not willing to pay for > > their pop server :-) And, yes, I've written their support people and > > requested being able to view messages w/o HTML. Th

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 01:15:23AM -0600, DvB wrote: > Kind of hard when your ISP is Yahoo! and you're not willing to pay for > their pop server :-) And, yes, I've written their support people and > requested being able to view messages w/o HTML. This, of course, seems > kind of silly when your mai

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-08 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:41:20AM -0900, Andy wrote: > That is good stuff to know but I still believe spam needs to be reported to > the source network. If the ISP's don't know how they are being used by the > spammers then how can they help stop the SPAM? Of course there will always > be com

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread DvB
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:57:40AM -0600, DvB wrote: > > The biggest problem with spamcop, and reporting spam in general, IMO, > > is that you have to open the message in order to do so. Many spammers > > nowdays have little notification mechanisms embedd

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread DvB
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 12:19:05PM -0600, DvB wrote: > > Just disable HTML rendering completely. All you need is the headers and, > > besides, anybody who sends you HTML formatted mail (unless it's your > > boss) probably isn't worth listening to anyway ;

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 04:08:39PM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > Well, only if it gets it right. I get messages from spamcop on a > regular basis complaining that I'm running an open relay, when in fact > what is happening is that a user has a .forward and the mail server is > forwarding his m

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:15:40AM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote: > SpamCop is a rather arbitrarily-run service that has received a lot of > criticism for blocking whole IP ranges, thereby blocking tons of legit > mail in the name of blocking a spammer or two who might also inhabit > that IP range.

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 12:19:05PM -0600, DvB wrote: > Just disable HTML rendering completely. All you need is the headers and, > besides, anybody who sends you HTML formatted mail (unless it's your > boss) probably isn't worth listening to anyway ;-) No, you need the full message. Abuse desks an

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:57:40AM -0600, DvB wrote: > The biggest problem with spamcop, and reporting spam in general, IMO, > is that you have to open the message in order to do so. Many spammers > nowdays have little notification mechanisms embedded in the HTML of > their messages which sends an

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 02:50:44PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I know this is off-topic but since joining this list I'm getting > increasing levels of Spam. I've heard that using SpamCop.net to process and > report spam can help. Is this true? Is it worth bothering with? Yes, but I think

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:41:20AM -0900, Andy wrote: > I use SpamCop all the time (30 times a day + ) as a header analyzing engine. > It does a great job of tracking the message source. Saves me hours every day > so I don't have to manually track down the message source and upstream ISP. > I t

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Andy
> SpamCop is a rather arbitrarily-run service that has received a lot of > criticism for blocking whole IP ranges, thereby blocking tons of legit > mail in the name of blocking a spammer or two who might also inhabit > that IP range. In particular, journalist Declan McCullagh's PoliTech > mailing l

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Craig Dickson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I know this is off-topic but since joining this list I'm getting > increasing levels of Spam. I've heard that using SpamCop.net to process and > report spam can help. Is this true? Is it worth bothering with? SpamCop is a rather arbitrarily-run service that has recei

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread DvB
Brian McGroarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:57:40AM -0600, DvB wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > Hi, > > >I know this is off-topic but since joining this list I'm getting > > > increasing levels of Spam. I've heard that using SpamCop.net to process an

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Ken McCord
Brian McGroarty wrote: On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:57:40AM -0600, DvB wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I know this is off-topic but since joining this list I'm getting increasing levels of Spam. I've heard that using SpamCop.net to process and report spam can help. Is this true? Is

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Brian McGroarty
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 09:57:40AM -0600, DvB wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Hi, > >I know this is off-topic but since joining this list I'm getting > > increasing levels of Spam. I've heard that using SpamCop.net to process and > > report spam can help. Is this true? Is it worth bot

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread DvB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi, >I know this is off-topic but since joining this list I'm getting > increasing levels of Spam. I've heard that using SpamCop.net to process and > report spam can help. Is this true? Is it worth bothering with? > The biggest problem with spamcop, and reporting

Re: [OT] SpamCop.net

2003-02-07 Thread Robert L. Harris
Spamassassin works great. I've set my block level to 5.7 I believe and I think I get about 1 spam per day not-filtered. In the last 3 months I haven't had a non-spam filtered. I'm also looking at a volume of about 500-800 valid messages per day (yeah, alot of lists). Those are pretty good num