On 25/07/07, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Bicycles don't contain engine computers running close-source software. ;)
Aha! I knew there must be a link! Thanks , David.
On 25/07/07 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That errupted into a brief
shower of fire about b
On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 10:58:33PM +0100, Terence wrote:
> On 25/07/07, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> If they still publish it, the Washington Bicyclists Manual would be a good
>> place to start for finding citations there.
>
> OK, it's OT, but what possible connection is there betwe
On Jul 25, 2007, at 2:58 PM, Terence wrote:
OK, it's OT, but what possible connection is there between the title
"[OT] A significant negative impact on Linux's popularity?" and a
bicycle in Washington (wherever that is)?
Is it that "binary = bicycle", or because Linux users behave like
nil/ill
On 25/07/07, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If they still publish it, the Washington Bicyclists Manual would be a good
place to start for finding citations there.
OK, it's OT, but what possible connection is there between the title
"[OT] A significant negative impact on Linux's popula
David Brodbeck wrote in Article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
gmane.linux.debian.user:
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> On Jul 23, 2007, at 7:42 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
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>>> Hmm. In most places I've driven bicyclists are required to share a
>>> lane, and are *not* entitled to an entire lane by law.
>>
>> Either you do not
On Jul 23, 2007, at 7:42 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
Hmm. In most places I've driven bicyclists are required to share a
lane, and are *not* entitled to an entire lane by law.
Either you do not drive in Washington State as your email address
implies,
your you missed that question on the Washing
On Jul 24, 2007, at 4:40 AM, terryc wrote:
It is a no brainer for me as well. I always buy the windows
versions of games now. I know I will get a far longer playing life
out of them. The past Linux versions of games (and other apps) are
impossible for me to get running on any of my linux s
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Paul Johnson wrote:
If I can find where I filed them, I can send you copies of my traffic
tickets, all of them to date have been on a bicycle.
I zipped by a police officer doing radar once about ten years ago, doing
just over 60kph in a 50kph zone.. He didn't bother me, p
It is a simple decision for them to make. Given a choice between a collection
of widely varying, inconsistent, badly supported platforms that are Linux and
is mainly used by people who expect things to be FREE and a stable, well
supported platform installed by people who recognise and are prep
David Brodbeck wrote in Article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
gmane.linux.debian.user:
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> On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:25 PM, William Pursell wrote:
>> If you make
>> a right turn (assuming you live where they drive on the
>> right hand side of the road) and take out a cyclist that
>> you didn't see pa
Steve Lamb wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
gmane.linux.debian.user:
> William Pursell wrote:
>> If a cyclist is riding against the flow of traffic,
>
> Am I the only one who grew up where the law was cyclists were to ride
> against the flow of traffic?
Probably not, but you sh
William Pursell wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
gmane.linux.debian.user:
> David Brodbeck wrote:
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>> On Jul 14, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> I've yet to collide with another cyclist who was following the rules.
>>
>> I have to say that, as a driver, it's the unp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
posted to gmane.linux.debian.user:
> On 16 Jul, David Brodbeck wrote:
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:25 PM, William Pursell wrote:
>>> If you make
>>> a right turn (assuming you live where they drive on the
>>> right hand side of the road) and t
David Brodbeck wrote in Article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
gmane.linux.debian.user:
> (When have you ever heard of one being ticketed for a traffic violation?)
If I can find where I filed them, I can send you copies of my traffic
tickets, all of them to date have been on a bicycle.
--
Paul J
Steve Lamb wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
gmane.linux.debian.user:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> Its a problem and I don't deny it. There needs to be a
>> solution. dedicated bike lanes are probably the best.
>
> Unless you're a dedicated bicyclist in which case you'll really
David Brodbeck wrote in Article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
gmane.linux.debian.user:
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> On Jul 15, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> A bicycle legally
>> owns the entire lane they are riding in (in many areas where I've
>> ridden)
>
> Hmm. In most places I've driven bicyclist
Am 2007-07-15 20:15:47, schrieb Andrew Sackville-West:
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 04:09:41PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
> > I have to say that, as a driver, it's the unpredictability of cyclists I
> > find distressing. They swerve suddenly into traffic, ride indiscriminately
> > on either side
On 16 Jul, Steve Lamb wrote:
> William Pursell wrote:
>> If a cyclist is riding against the flow of traffic,
>
> Am I the only one who grew up where the law was cyclists were to
> ride against the flow of traffic?
>
Just out of curiosity, where did you grow up? Everywhere that I've
lived (o
On 16 Jul, David Brodbeck wrote:
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> On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:25 PM, William Pursell wrote:
>> If you make
>> a right turn (assuming you live where they drive on the
>> right hand side of the road) and take out a cyclist that
>> you didn't see passing you on the right in a cycle lane,
>> I hope you g
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On Tuesday 17 July 2007, Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
> Am I the only one who grew up where the law was cyclists were to
> ride against the flow of traffic?
It would seem so. Everywhere that I have lived, bicycles are
considere
On Jul 16, 2007, at 8:25 PM, Steve Lamb wrote:
Two things here. Critical Mass rides (never been on one) are a
form of
protest and political action. I don't know if they are properly
permitted by authorities or anything like that
Just wondering how, exactly, we got to the point where one
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> Its a problem and I don't deny it. There needs to be a
> solution. dedicated bike lanes are probably the best.
Unless you're a dedicated bicyclist in which case you'll really dislike
dedicated bike lanes. AKA, the "refuse lane" since all of the nice debris
from
William Pursell wrote:
> If a cyclist is riding against the flow of traffic,
Am I the only one who grew up where the law was cyclists were to ride
against the flow of traffic?
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On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:25 PM, William Pursell wrote:
If you make
a right turn (assuming you live where they drive on the
right hand side of the road) and take out a cyclist that
you didn't see passing you on the right in a cycle lane,
I hope you get a jail sentence. (Not you personally, but
appa
David Brodbeck wrote:
On Jul 16, 2007, at 5:21 AM, William Pursell wrote:
David Brodbeck wrote:
On Jul 14, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
I've yet to collide with another cyclist who was following the rules.
I have to say that, as a driver, it's the unpredictability of
cyclists I fin
crap. I was going to be done with this, but can't resist. really
really last one though ;)
On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 09:08:39PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> On Jul 15, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> A bicycle legally
>> owns the entire lane they are riding in (in many areas wh
On Jul 16, 2007, at 5:21 AM, William Pursell wrote:
David Brodbeck wrote:
On Jul 14, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
I've yet to collide with another cyclist who was following the
rules.
I have to say that, as a driver, it's the unpredictability of
cyclists I find distressing.
As a
David Brodbeck wrote:
On Jul 14, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
I've yet to collide with another cyclist who was following the rules.
I have to say that, as a driver, it's the unpredictability of cyclists I
find distressing.
As a cyclist, I find the unpredictability of drivers dis
On Jul 15, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
A bicycle legally
owns the entire lane they are riding in (in many areas where I've
ridden)
Hmm. In most places I've driven bicyclists are required to share a
lane, and are *not* entitled to an entire lane by law. It strikes me
th
On Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 07:43:37PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote in Article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
> gmane.linux.debian.user:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 08:09:23AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >>
> >> I disagree: There's some people that really ought not be
On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 04:09:41PM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> On Jul 14, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
>> I've yet to collide with another cyclist who was following the rules.
>
> I have to say that, as a driver, it's the unpredictability of cyclists I
> find distressing. They swe
On Jul 14, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
I've yet to collide with another cyclist who was following the rules.
I have to say that, as a driver, it's the unpredictability of
cyclists I find distressing. They swerve suddenly into traffic, ride
indiscriminately on either side of the
Andrew Sackville-West wrote in Article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
gmane.linux.debian.user:
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 08:09:23AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>
>> I disagree: There's some people that really ought not be trusted with
>> bicycles to begin with, like those morons that drive their
On 07/14/07 22:24, Steve C. Lamb wrote:
On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 10:52:58AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
Oh, please. Most of this decade's Atari and id's releases hit Linux first,
Windows later and MacOS when hell freezes over. More vendors appear to be
considering this route from time to time.
On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 03:19:02PM -0400, Zach wrote:
> And if they really care so much about games more likely they can save
> the money they'd spend on a PC and just buy an Xbox (with it's broken
> hardware hehe).
No, not really. Console gaming is far different than PC Gaming. I've
owned c
On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 10:52:58AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Oh, please. Most of this decade's Atari and id's releases hit Linux first,
> Windows later and MacOS when hell freezes over. More vendors appear to be
> considering this route from time to time. Nobody's switching from Windows
> or
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 08:09:23AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
>
> I disagree: There's some people that really ought not be trusted with
> bicycles to begin with, like those morons that drive their bicycle against
> traffic or on the sidewalk...
I disagree: riding against the flow or on the sidew
Paul Johnson wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
posted to gmane.linux.debian.user:
> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
> to gmane.linux.debian.user:
>
>> Zach wrote:
>>
>>> There
>>> are millions and millions of MS Windows uers who can't do much beyond
>>> check
On Jul 8, 2007, at 10:54 AM, Paul Johnson wrote:
I disagree. The way some people drive, perhaps it should be just
to help
weed out those who really have no business on the road with
anything more
powerful than a bicycle to begin with. Sometimes, the learning
curve is
not only a good thin
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
to gmane.linux.debian.user:
> Zach wrote:
>
>> There
>> are millions and millions of MS Windows uers who can't do much beyond
>> checking email, surfing the web and playing games and then millions
>> more who are what I call 'corpo
On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 02:23:05PM -0500, ArcticFox wrote:
> >
> Are we ignoring the fact that Intel-based Macs can run most Linux apps
> out of the box? And the rest with the Developer Tools installed? Heck,
> put wine on there and you can run most Windows apps too.
>
If by out of the box, you
On Jul 8, 2007, at 2:19 PM, Zach wrote:
On 7/8/07, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And in the future, even with the EA announcement, I doubt it will
change
anything except with the five people who love football so much they
absolutely must have the latest Madden game every year...
On 7/8/07, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And in the future, even with the EA announcement, I doubt it will change
anything except with the five people who love football so much they
absolutely must have the latest Madden game every year...
And if they really care so much about games
Ron Johnson wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
gmane.linux.debian.user:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/12/technology/12apple.html
>
> Electronic Arts and Id announced that they would begin
> releasing popular games for the Macintosh simultaneously
> with Windows versi
Zach wrote:
> There
> are millions and millions of MS Windows uers who can't do much beyond
> checking email, surfing the web and playing games and then millions
> more who are what I call 'corporate users; they only do certain tasks
> using involving Office. The typical Linux user tended to be mo
I care more about the quality of Linux users than the quantity. There
are millions and millions of MS Windows uers who can't do much beyond
checking email, surfing the web and playing games and then millions
more who are what I call 'corporate users; they only do certain tasks
using involving Offi
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