Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-08 Thread John Foster
Michael B Allen wrote: On Tuesday 06 January 2004 11:05 pm, Michael B Allen wrote: Testing might be the release level you are looking for... (I found Stable to be just a tad too old for my tastes as a desktop) Good thing I'm running a headless Internet server :) Mike I have 2 pieces of a

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-07 Thread Michael B Allen
> On Tuesday 06 January 2004 11:05 pm, Michael B Allen wrote: > Testing might be the release level you are looking for... > (I found Stable to be just a tad too old for my tastes as a desktop) Good thing I'm running a headless Internet server :) Mike -- A program should be written to model th

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-07 Thread Brad Sims
On Tuesday 06 January 2004 11:05 pm, Michael B Allen wrote: > Personally I never used their services anyway so I could care less. I still > use RH 7.3 on all my Linux machines (quite a few). The problem I'm faced > with now is not a feeling of abandonment but finding a boring, stable, > consistent

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-07 Thread Nano Nano
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 03:06:18PM -0500, Michael B Allen wrote: > This was very useful information Derrick. The text mode support for querying, > updating, and particularly installing packages with apt-* and dpkg is indeed far > superior to rpm. It was very easy to install postfix-tls (of course c

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-07 Thread Michael B Allen
This was very useful information Derrick. The text mode support for querying, updating, and particularly installing packages with apt-* and dpkg is indeed far superior to rpm. It was very easy to install postfix-tls (of course configuration appears to be another issue entirely :) Ok. I am well on

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-07 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 05:18:08AM -0500, Michael B Allen wrote: [...] | How is support for UTF-8 locales? I just realized that I forgot to answer this question. I've been using 'en_US.UTF-8' as my locale for some time now. Many applications handle it very well, though some don't. Particularly

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 06:16:09PM +, Colin Watson wrote: | On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 04:09:16PM -0200, Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corcete Dutra wrote: | > Em Ter, 2004-01-06 Ãs 08:18, Michael B Allen escreveu: | > > What surprises can a RH user expect? | > the fact that stable is | > obsolete,

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 10:14:09PM -0500, Michael B Allen wrote: | > Back when I used RedHat I always found it to be a pain the way you | > have to manually track down, and rebuild, package depedencies. | > | > | So I thought I'd try debian as it seems a little more consistent. | > | Is this true?

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Michael B Allen
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 06:16:09PM +, Colin Watson wrote: >> > > What surprises can a RH user expect? >> > >> >I guess the biggest hurdles would be the text-mode, no-detection >> > installer (do a system inventory first) and the fact that stable is >> > obsolete, so one is almost forced

Re: Creating "Dummy" .debs (Was: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie)

2004-01-06 Thread Jacob S.
On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 22:14:09 -0500 (EST) "Michael B Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I use debian it sounds like using custom packages is more > difficult. I'll have to create a file with equivs-contol and then edit > it. That's not so bad but knowing what to put in it bothers me. That's a

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread ben_foley
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 06:16:09PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 04:09:16PM -0200, Leandro Guimar?es Faria Corcete Dutra > wrote: > > Em Ter, 2004-01-06 ?s 08:18, Michael B Allen escreveu: > > > Is 3.0r1 glibc 2.3. > > > > Don't remember. But I guess you will upgrade

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Michael B Allen
> Back when I used RedHat I always found it to be a pain the way you > have to manually track down, and rebuild, package depedencies. > > | So I thought I'd try debian as it seems a little more consistent. > | Is this true? > > Debian includes all of its packages in one place, and automatically > b

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread John L. Fjellstad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael B Allen wrote: > So I thought I'd try debian as it seems a little more > consistent. Is this true? Is 3.0r1 glibc 2.3. How is support for > UTF-8 locales? Etc. What surprises can a RH user expect? I'm a former RedHat user too (changed back in

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra
Em Ter, 2004-01-06 Ãs 16:16, Colin Watson escreveu: > On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 04:09:16PM -0200, Leandro GuimarÃes Faria Corcete Dutra > wrote: > > > > Don't remember. But I guess you will upgrade to GLibC 2.4 when you > > upgrade to testing in order to get Gnome 2. > > There's no such thing

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 04:09:16PM -0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra wrote: > Em Ter, 2004-01-06 às 08:18, Michael B Allen escreveu: > > Is 3.0r1 glibc 2.3. > > Don't remember. But I guess you will upgrade to GLibC 2.4 when you > upgrade to testing in order to get Gnome 2. Ther

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra
Em Ter, 2004-01-06 Ãs 08:18, Michael B Allen escreveu: > I've been using RH 7.3 and it's been a very solid distro > for me but I feel like I'm being left behind at this point. Whenever I > update a package I have to get the source from their latest packages > and rebuild. So I thought I'd try debi

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 12:48:38PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > Instead you will use apt (Advanced Package Tracking ?) Advanced Package Tool. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 05:18:08AM -0500, Michael B Allen wrote: | Hello, | | I just got a "linode" UML VPS over at linode.com and booted debian 3.0r1 | 2.2.24 on it. I've been using RH 7.3 and it's been a very solid distro | for me but I feel like I'm being left behind at this point. Whenever I |

Re: RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Michael B Allen wrote: Hello, I just got a "linode" UML VPS over at linode.com and booted debian 3.0r1 2.2.24 on it. I've been using RH 7.3 and it's been a very solid distro for me but I feel like I'm being left behind at this point. Whenever I update a package I have to get the source from their

RH Veteran is now a Debian Newbie

2004-01-06 Thread Michael B Allen
Hello, I just got a "linode" UML VPS over at linode.com and booted debian 3.0r1 2.2.24 on it. I've been using RH 7.3 and it's been a very solid distro for me but I feel like I'm being left behind at this point. Whenever I update a package I have to get the source from their latest packages and reb