Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-09 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 12/9/23, Albretch Mueller wrote: > the CIA was giving money to Ukrainian people but in > order to get it they had to use their cell phones ;-) which (cell phones) they would also get "for free", mind you. And well ..., yes, even if you remove the networking hard and software, all RF devices

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-09 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 12/9/23, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> On 09.12.23 at 10:13, Albretch Mueller wrote: >> > As anyone could see you could even run a network of detached >> > computers without networking interfaces in a "touch of God" kind of >> > way ... Thank you. I should have more clearly stated that those comp

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-09 Thread John Hasler
Greg writes: > Is he simply talking about sneakernet? A human administrator, whom I > imagine to be the "god" in this scenario, walks around and room and > types things on each computer as needed? Carrying removable media around. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-09 Thread John Hasler
low network by mailing removable media around. In the early days Australia was on Usenet by way of airmailed taps. Then there's https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2549. Though consider: the earliest computer viruses were transmitted by floppy disk... -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 09, 2023 at 02:50:16PM +0100, Arno Lehmann wrote: > On 09.12.23 at 10:13, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > As anyone could see you could even run a network of detached > > computers without networking interfaces in a "touch of God" kind of > > way, > > At this point it becomes quite clear

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-09 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hello, On 09.12.23 at 10:13, Albretch Mueller wrote: On 12/7/23, Arno Lehmann wrote: it's quite interesting that you use a platform such as wordpress, running code you can not control, to discuss such matters. I was just brainstorming, dumping a stream of consciousness with a relatively co

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-09 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 12/9/23, Albretch Mueller wrote: > As anyone could see you could even run a network of detached > computers without networking interfaces in a "touch of God" kind of > way, some sort of "leased One-time pad touches of God" specifically > for each, all coordinated through and which data/informa

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-09 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 12/7/23, Arno Lehmann wrote: > it's quite interesting that you use a platform such as wordpress, > running code you can not control, to discuss such matters. I was just brainstorming, dumping a stream of consciousness with a relatively comprehensive outline of the main ideas. > Wouldn't it b

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-07 Thread Albretch Mueller
Hopefully finally! We should brainstorm our initial thoughts about it there and once we could envision some completion and continuing hope to it, we can move it into a formal github open source project: https://ergosumus.wordpress.com/2023/12/07/tog-linux-first-draft-of-a-rfc/ lbrtchx

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-07 Thread Albretch Mueller
BTW, except for the GRUB/boot loading phase and its possible useful aspects relating to ToG-L (which I haven't found the time to study), I would say that 80%+ of the whole project I have already implemented with my lousy bash scripts skills and in java/GRAALVM as a first "proof of concept" and of

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-07 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hello, it's quite interesting that you use a platform such as wordpress, running code you can not control, to discuss such matters. Wouldn't it be more reasonable to self host, using a hoster providing decent privacy and aonymity or a technology such as Tor? Given the amount of time and effo

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-06 Thread Albretch Mueller
Oh, well! "My paranoia" as Greg would say ;-) Yes, they removed it again! I have no effing idea why (other than messing with me) You could hopefully see my back and forths with them: https://wordpress.com/forums/topic/how-long-does-it-take-for-a-new-post-to-become-active/ Let me resume fighti

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 10:25:55PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > You may ask me questions or suggest options on my wordpress page: > > https://ergosumus.wordpress.com/2023/12/06/tog-touch-of-god-linux-first-draft-of-a-rfc/ This page doesn't seem to exist (yet?). I looked

ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-06 Thread Albretch Mueller
d have thought that "'the' land of 'the' 'free' ..." would make you think of what goes on in Cuba and went on East Germany as benign, less perniciously consequential, much less all-encompassing?) creating a degree of noise around you (relatively loud music while you talk on the phone, work office kinds of background noises, ...) would cost nothing and be "healthy" to your mind and body. You may ask me questions or suggest options on my wordpress page: https://ergosumus.wordpress.com/2023/12/06/tog-touch-of-god-linux-first-draft-of-a-rfc/ or right here via the mailing list. thank you, lbrtchx

Re: example.org and other RFC 2606 domains; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager

2023-10-22 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 22 Oct 2023 08:42 -0400, from poc...@columbus.rr.com (Pocket): > I get that, I have used example.org for more than 20 years and at the time I > began using it things were different. It has been reserved for its current purpose at least since June 1999 (that's the publication date

Re: RFC: What would be the "correct debian way" to clean up unwanted languages from an installation?

2022-11-15 Thread David Wright
On Tue 15 Nov 2022 at 16:37:58 (-0800), David Christensen wrote: > On 11/15/22 00:22, DdB wrote: > > Am 15.11.2022 um 05:21 schrieb David Christensen: > > > I installed the localepurge package.  Storage usage did not change. Then > > > I realized that I had chosen the "C" locale during installation

Re: RFC: What would be the "correct debian way" to clean up unwanted languages from an installation?

2022-11-15 Thread David Christensen
On 11/15/22 00:22, DdB wrote: Am 15.11.2022 um 05:21 schrieb David Christensen: I installed the localepurge package.  Storage usage did not change. Then I realized that I had chosen the "C" locale during installation, so perhaps there is nothing to be removed (?).  So, I removed the localepurge

Re: RFC: What would be the "correct debian way" to clean up unwanted languages from an installation?

2022-11-15 Thread DdB
Am 15.11.2022 um 05:21 schrieb David Christensen: > I installed the localepurge package.  Storage usage did not change. Then > I realized that I had chosen the "C" locale during installation, so > perhaps there is nothing to be removed (?).  So, I removed the > localepurge package. > > > David I

Re: RFC: What would be the "correct debian way" to clean up unwanted languages from an installation?

2022-11-14 Thread David Christensen
On 11/13/22 23:15, DdB wrote: Am 14.11.2022 um 07:16 schrieb Anssi Saari: Charles Curley writes: On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:32:51 +0100 DdB wrote: every backup contains loads of unnecessary language files, and i saw them scroll by during rsync. So one day, i wanted to get rid of those. You m

Re: RFC: What would be the "correct debian way" to clean up unwanted languages from an installation?

2022-11-13 Thread DdB
Am 14.11.2022 um 07:16 schrieb Anssi Saari: > Charles Curley writes: > >> On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:32:51 +0100 >> DdB wrote: >> >>> every backup contains loads of unnecessary language files, and i saw >>> them scroll by during rsync. So one day, i wanted to get rid of those. >> >> You might take a

Re: RFC: What would be the "correct debian way" to clean up unwanted languages from an installation?

2022-11-13 Thread Anssi Saari
Charles Curley writes: > On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:32:51 +0100 > DdB wrote: > >> every backup contains loads of unnecessary language files, and i saw >> them scroll by during rsync. So one day, i wanted to get rid of those. > > You might take a look at the localepurge package. As I'm a little shor

Re: RFC: What would be the "correct debian way" to clean up unwanted languages from an installation?

2022-11-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 04:32:51PM +0100, DdB wrote: > Would anyone be willing to take a look at what i have been doing and > guide me to a resolution of the missing parts? > > My current (bash) script can be found here: > https://paste.debian.net/1260563/ There is an existing package "lo

Re: RFC: What would be the "correct debian way" to clean up unwanted languages from an installation?

2022-11-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:32:51 +0100 DdB wrote: > every backup contains loads of unnecessary language files, and i saw > them scroll by during rsync. So one day, i wanted to get rid of those. You might take a look at the localepurge package. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://cha

RFC: What would be the "correct debian way" to clean up unwanted languages from an installation?

2022-11-13 Thread DdB
Hello, every backup contains loads of unnecessary language files, and i saw them scroll by during rsync. So one day, i wanted to get rid of those. What a surprise: doing it in my (rather simplistic) fashion, i got rid of almost 1,5 GB from every buster machine, i had ... only to find, that they w

Re: ipv6 stable privacy (rfc 7217) as default ipv6 address for outgoing traffic

2021-05-25 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Serge, On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 11:51:12AM +0200, Serge Pouliquen wrote: > I'm getting 2 addresses : one from slaac with stable privacy and one from > dhcpv6. > It looks like the one from dhcpv6 is used as the default for outgoing > traffic. > > How can I indicate that I want to use the one rel

ipv6 stable privacy (rfc 7217) as default ipv6 address for outgoing traffic

2021-05-24 Thread Serge Pouliquen
Hi, According to my understanding, it's possible to have multiple ipv6 addresses for an interface. But I didn't find any option to select the address related to stable privacy (rfc 7217) as the default for outgoing address. In /etc/network/interfaces: iface enp6s0 inet6 dhc

Re: RFC Debian and Xfce daily desktop on Dell Latitude 54XX

2019-12-04 Thread David Christensen
On 2019-12-04 00:48, Victor wrote: Le 03 Dec 2019, David Christensen a écrit : Is anyone running Debian and Xfce as a daily desktop on a Dell Latitude 54XX laptop? If so, please comment. Thanks for the reply. :-) I’ve been using xfce for the last 3 or 4 years on a latitude E5440 (bought s

Re: RFC Debian and Xfce daily desktop on Dell Latitude 54XX

2019-12-04 Thread David Christensen
On 2019-12-03 22:02, deloptes wrote: David Christensen wrote: Thanks for the reply.  :-) Do you use X?  If so, which display manager or desktop?  What are the hardware specs and how does it hold up with heavy desktop usage? Yes X and TDE former KDE3 as display manager (might be exotic to so

Re: RFC Debian and Xfce daily desktop on Dell Latitude 54XX

2019-12-04 Thread Victor
Le 03 Dec 2019, David Christensen a écrit : debian-user: Is anyone running Debian and Xfce as a daily desktop on a Dell Latitude 54XX laptop? If so, please comment. I’ve been using xfce for the last 3 or 4 years on a latitude E5440 (bought seconhand). - Worked seamingless right after

Re: RFC Debian and Xfce daily desktop on Dell Latitude 54XX

2019-12-03 Thread deloptes
David Christensen wrote: > Thanks for the reply.  :-) > > > Do you use X?  If so, which display manager or desktop?  What are the > hardware specs and how does it hold up with heavy desktop usage? Yes X and TDE former KDE3 as display manager (might be exotic to some, but it is so stable and has

Re: RFC Debian and Xfce daily desktop on Dell Latitude 54XX

2019-12-03 Thread David Christensen
On 2019-12-02 21:32, deloptes wrote: David Christensen wrote: debian-user: Is anyone running Debian and Xfce as a daily desktop on a Dell Latitude 54XX laptop? If so, please comment. David https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/Latitude5480 https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebia

Re: RFC Debian and Xfce daily desktop on Dell Latitude 54XX

2019-12-02 Thread deloptes
David Christensen wrote: > debian-user: > > Is anyone running Debian and Xfce as a daily desktop on a Dell Latitude > 54XX laptop? If so, please comment. > > > David > > https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/Latitude5480 > > https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/Latitude5

RFC Debian and Xfce daily desktop on Dell Latitude 54XX

2019-12-02 Thread David Christensen
debian-user: Is anyone running Debian and Xfce as a daily desktop on a Dell Latitude 54XX laptop? If so, please comment. David https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/Latitude5480 https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/Latitude5490

Re: IPv6 SLAAC and RFC 7217

2018-01-22 Thread John Naggets
ard" way in Debian 9 through the >> /etc/network/interfaces file to enable/force using a stable private >> IPv6 address using SLAAC as specified in RFC 7217? > > I have never tried it but <https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/255955> > seems to suggest that you would s

Re: IPv6 SLAAC and RFC 7217

2018-01-21 Thread Andy Smith
Hi John, On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 07:29:23PM +0100, John Naggets wrote: > I was wondering if there is a "standard" way in Debian 9 through the > /etc/network/interfaces file to enable/force using a stable private > IPv6 address using SLAAC as specified in RFC 7217? I have

Re: IPv6 SLAAC and RFC 7217

2018-01-21 Thread Sven Hartge
Ulf Volmer wrote: > On 21.01.2018 19:29, John Naggets wrote: >> I was wondering if there is a "standard" way in Debian 9 through the >> /etc/network/interfaces file to enable/force using a stable private >> IPv6 address using SLAAC as specified in RFC 7217? &g

Re: IPv6 SLAAC and RFC 7217

2018-01-21 Thread Ulf Volmer
On 21.01.2018 19:29, John Naggets wrote: > I was wondering if there is a "standard" way in Debian 9 through the > /etc/network/interfaces file to enable/force using a stable private > IPv6 address using SLAAC as specified in RFC 7217? no personal experience, but you should l

IPv6 SLAAC and RFC 7217

2018-01-21 Thread John Naggets
Hi, I was wondering if there is a "standard" way in Debian 9 through the /etc/network/interfaces file to enable/force using a stable private IPv6 address using SLAAC as specified in RFC 7217? Any one already managed to do that on a Debian 9 client? or know how to do that? Cheers, John

Re: procmail and Unicode header lines (RFC 2047)

2010-10-31 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 07:46:45 +0100, Stanisław Findeisen wrote: > On 2010-10-29 10:39, Camaleón wrote: >> Mmm, procmail is a delivery agent, it does not render the messages. >> >> What e-mail client are you using for displaying e-mails? I have not >> problems with enco

Re: procmail and Unicode header lines (RFC 2047)

2010-10-30 Thread Stanisław Findeisen
. > > What e-mail client are you using for displaying e-mails? I have not > problems with encoded subjects using rfc 2047, they seem to render just > fine in Mutt. I was talking about e-mail processing (e-mail filtering, header fields modifications etc.) on the server. So no, no e

Re: procmail and Unicode header lines (RFC 2047)

2010-10-30 Thread Bob Proulx
Stanisław Findeisen wrote: > >> Is there any support in Debian for Unicode e-mail header lines > >> processing, e.g. with procmail? > >> Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNEE7eiROJTUlViU4JSclLyVIGyhC?= > ... > Hm I wrote this little script: > > http://people.eisenbits.com/~stf/software/conv2047/ > > I

Re: procmail and Unicode header lines (RFC 2047)

2010-10-30 Thread Stanisław Findeisen
On 2010-10-29 21:35, Bob Proulx wrote: > Stanisław Findeisen wrote: >> Is there any support in Debian for Unicode e-mail header lines >> processing, e.g. with procmail? >> Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNEE7eiROJTUlViU4JSclLyVIGyhC?= >> >> so they need to be decoded before doing anything useful with

Re: procmail and Unicode header lines (RFC 2047)

2010-10-29 Thread Bob Proulx
Stanisław Findeisen wrote: > Is there any support in Debian for Unicode e-mail header lines > processing, e.g. with procmail? > Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNEE7eiROJTUlViU4JSclLyVIGyhC?= > > so they need to be decoded before doing anything useful with them. (See: > http://www.debian.org/doc/manua

Re: procmail and Unicode header lines (RFC 2047)

2010-10-29 Thread Camaleón
> so they need to be decoded before doing anything useful with them. (See: > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/intro-i18n/ch-internet.en.html) Mmm, procmail is a delivery agent, it does not render the messages. What e-mail client are you using for displaying e-mails? I have not problems with

procmail and Unicode header lines (RFC 2047)

2010-10-28 Thread Stanisław Findeisen
Hi Is there any support in Debian for Unicode e-mail header lines processing, e.g. with procmail? Those header lines look like this: Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNEE7eiROJTUlViU4JSclLyVIGyhC?= so they need to be decoded before doing anything useful with them. (See: http://www.debian.org/doc/man

RFC: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-09-16 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, I've collected several rules that upstreams should follow to make distro maintainer's life much easier: http://www.metux.de/index.php/de/component/content/article/57.html Free feel to comment on it :) cu -- -- Enr

LVM on raid1: looking to future, RFC

2006-12-04 Thread Douglas Tutty
Hello, My testing box is an amd64, 1 G ram with dual 80 GB Seagate SATA drives, running Etch. I'm new to the LVM/raid1 concept. Following advice I received here (or was it on amd64; no matter, its not amd64 specific), I currently have both disks partitioned the same: 1 small

Re: RFC: Well supported scanners under Linux?

2006-08-05 Thread cr
> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:40:03 -0300 > > Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear people, > > > > I have some photos that I would like to preserve in a digital form > > and I thought of using a scanner for this. > > > > Unfortunately, I my knowlegdge about scanners is zero and I have > > a

Re: RFC: Well supported scanners under Linux?

2006-08-05 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 11:24:17AM -0500, Jacob S wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:40:03 -0300 > Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear people, > > > > I have some photos that I would like to preserve in a digital form > > and I thought of using a scanner for this. > > > > Unfortunat

Re: RFC: Well supported scanners under Linux?

2006-08-05 Thread Jacob S
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:40:03 -0300 Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear people, > > I have some photos that I would like to preserve in a digital form > and I thought of using a scanner for this. > > Unfortunately, I my knowlegdge about s

Re: RFC: Well supported scanners under Linux?

2006-07-26 Thread Russell L. Harris
Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, in light of this, I would like to ask you some recommendations based > on your experiences for scanners that are fully functional under Linux, > from open-source friendly companies. Epson has excellent yet inexpensive scanners in the "Perfection" ser

RFC: Well supported scanners under Linux?

2006-07-26 Thread Rogério Brito
Dear people, I have some photos that I would like to preserve in a digital form and I thought of using a scanner for this. Unfortunately, I my knowlegdge about scanners is zero and I have already visited the sane project page, but could not decide what would be a good purchase. So, in light of t

Re: RFC: Better portability for package maintainers

2006-05-20 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roger Leigh wrote: > Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 12:32 -0500, Michael Banck wrote: >>> We had a pure NetBSD port before, but so far no non-glibc port got added >>> to the archive officially (but that doesn't mea

Re: daytime, RFC 867

2006-05-03 Thread John Hasler
petereasthope writes: > Is there any client in Debian which can invoke Daytime on a neighbouring > machine on a LAN? Telnet, netcat... -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: daytime, RFC 867

2006-05-03 Thread Ken Irving
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:49:01AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > RFC 867specifies the protocol of the Daytime service, > which I believe is configured properly in inetd.conf > on a machine here. > > Is there any client in Debian which can invoke Daytime > on a neighbourin

daytime, RFC 867

2006-05-03 Thread petereasthope
RFC 867specifies the protocol of the Daytime service, which I believe is configured properly in inetd.conf on a machine here. Is there any client in Debian which can invoke Daytime on a neighbouring machine on a LAN? Thanks, ... Peter E. Desktops.OpenDoc http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca

RFC: Removal of old cyrus-sasl (libsasl7) from sarge and sid

2004-10-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
As of this writing, all packages in Debian have transitioned to the newer libsasl2 (cyrus-sasl2). The last user of libsasl7 (sendmail-wide) is being removed from sid at the request of its maintainer. Cyrus-SASL 1.5 (libsasl7) has been deprecated upstream for years. Can we remove cyrus-sasl and l

Re: RFC: Linux compatibility test framework

2003-12-14 Thread Kent West
Terry Hancock wrote: On Sunday 14 December 2003 02:16 am, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 11:15:07AM -0600, Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: John Hasler wrote: So you guarantee that [a computer system] works with a specific version of a specific distribution. And

Re: RFC: Linux compatibility test framework (was: Re: OT: Letter to TigerDirect)

2003-12-14 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 03:35:06AM -0600, Terry Hancock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sunday 14 December 2003 02:16 am, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 11:15:07AM -0600, Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > John Hasler wrote: > > > >Terry writes: > > > >>Now, if you are j

Re: RFC: Linux compatibility test framework (was: Re: OT: Letter to TigerDirect)

2003-12-14 Thread Terry Hancock
On Sunday 14 December 2003 02:16 am, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 11:15:07AM -0600, Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > John Hasler wrote: > > >Terry writes: > > >>Now, if you are just doing this "in good faith" or making a "best > > >>effort", you're asking for a lawsuit t

RFC: Linux compatibility test framework (was: Re: OT: Letter to TigerDirect)

2003-12-14 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 11:15:07AM -0600, Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > >Terry writes: > > > > > >>Now, if you are just doing this "in good faith" or making a "best > >>effort", you're asking for a lawsuit the first time somebody buys your > >>stuff and can't get t

Re: Opposed: (was Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user)

2003-12-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 09:42:58PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 02:28:52AM -0800, Hereon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > 3) The Debian community would be much better served > >a) by the creation now of two new mailing lists, called: > > 1) debian-user-woody, or po

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 02:28:52AM -0800, Hereon wrote: > Request For Comment on: > Enhancing the Debian mailing lists by: > Creating debian-user-woody and debian-user-sarge mailing lists, > and deactivating debian-user. It's come up before, and it still sounds like a thoroughly dreadful ide

Opposed: (was Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user)

2003-12-05 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 02:28:52AM -0800, Hereon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Request For Comment on: > Enhancing the Debian mailing lists by: > Creating debian-user-woody and debian-user-sarge mailing lists, > and deactivating debian-user. > > Summary: > > 1) The Debian user community is s

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-04 Thread Svenn Are Bjerkem
On Monday 01 December 2003 11:28, Hereon wrote: > 1) The Debian user community is substantially suboptimally served >    with the existence of the current debian-user list. As some debian users post to debian-user without being subscribed, they request to be cc'ed by the helpers. As said users ma

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 12:09:41PM +, Siraj 'Sid' Rakhada wrote: > I think maybe a single new list should be created - > debian-user-unstable, or maybe just debian-unstable, for... well > unstable people ;) Well, debian-devel is the unstable mai

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2003-12-02 11:20:24, schrieb Michael Perry: >I think that this is a good idea overall. Since I also track a bit of >freebsd stuff, I always liked their approach to having email lists for I am on FreeBSD and NetBSD Lists... ;-) >Perhaps there should be a discussion whether a debian-question

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-02 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 06:02:50PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Which mean, that even if someone like to install SLINK on a > 486, the Mailinglist will still availlable. For peoples > which are willing to Help it will no problenm, because the > traffic are naturaly decreasing on older Versio

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-02 Thread Michael Perry
Michelle Konzack wrote: Attention: Please Cc me if you answer from debian-user (curently I am == not subscribed, because the traffic and an ADSL Problem) Am 2003-12-01 10:40:40, schrieb Tim Folger: This is a very good idea. It might be easiest if the lists were named debian-stable, d

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Attention: Please Cc me if you answer from debian-user (curently I am == not subscribed, because the traffic and an ADSL Problem) Am 2003-12-01 10:40:40, schrieb Tim Folger: >This is a very good idea. It might be easiest if the lists were named >debian-stable, debian-testing, and debi

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-01 Thread ScruLoose
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 08:52:23PM +0800, David Palmer. wrote: > On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 02:28:52 -0800 "Hereon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Request For Comment on: > > Enhancing the Debian mailing lists by: > > Creating debian-user-woody and debian-user-sarge mailing lists, > > and deactiv

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-01 Thread Paul Morgan
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 02:28:52 -0800, Hereon wrote: > Request For Comment on: > Enhancing the Debian mailing lists by: > Creating debian-user-woody and debian-user-sarge mailing lists, > and deactivating debian-user. > > Summary: > > 1) The Debian user community is substantially suboptimally

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-01 Thread Paul E Condon
On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 10:35:02AM -0600, Stewart Jenkins wrote: > On Monday 01 December 2003 04:28, Hereon wrote: > > Request For Comment on: > > Enhancing the Debian mailing lists by: > > Creating debian-user-woody and debian-user-sarge mailing lists, > > and deactivating debian-user. > >

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-01 Thread Travis Crump
Hereon wrote: Debian stable releases have been approximately 1-2 years apart. During this period of time, many Debian users make active use of the testing/unstable system. Currently, user questions about testing/unstable are likely to be asked in the debian-user list. But, that is definitely not t

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-01 Thread Stewart Jenkins
On Monday 01 December 2003 04:28, Hereon wrote: > Request For Comment on: > Enhancing the Debian mailing lists by: > Creating debian-user-woody and debian-user-sarge mailing lists, > and deactivating debian-user. I say leave well enough alone. I like being able to get all my answers in one

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-01 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 02:28:52AM -0800, Hereon wrote: > 1) The Debian user community is substantially suboptimally served >with the existence of the current debian-user list. Howso? If you're going to make those claims, back it up. > 2) The de

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
e is requesting: >1) Comment regarding specific suggestions of how the situation > could be inproved through the creation of 1 or more additional > lists to augment or replace debian-user, >2) "Seconds" (to the motion) for the request of these changes. >

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-01 Thread Dave Howorth
I disagree with this request. See below for my reasons. Hereon wrote: Request For Comment on: Enhancing the Debian mailing lists by: Creating debian-user-woody and debian-user-sarge mailing lists, and deactivating debian-user. Summary: 1) The Debian user community is substantially suboptima

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-01 Thread David Palmer.
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 02:28:52 -0800 "Hereon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Request For Comment on: > Enhancing the Debian mailing lists by: > Creating debian-user-woody and debian-user-sarge mailing lists, > and deactivating debian-user. > And the people running mixed systems? I'm running sta

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-01 Thread Richard Kimber
On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 02:28:52 -0800 "Hereon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Request For Comment on: > Enhancing the Debian mailing lists by: > Creating debian-user-woody and debian-user-sarge mailing lists, > and deactivating debian-user. I can see what motivates the proposal, and I can see th

Re: RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-01 Thread Siraj 'Sid' Rakhada
Hi there, --On Monday, December 1, 2003 2:28 -0800 Hereon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 3) The Debian community would be much better served a) by the creation now of two new mailing lists, called: 1) debian-user-woody, or possibly debian-user-stable, or possibly debian-user-3

RFC: Create d-user-woody, d-user-sarge maillists, deactivate d-user

2003-12-01 Thread Hereon
) "Seconds" (to the motion) for the request of these changes. 5) After a comment period (perhaps one week), I will review & analyze the comments. I will then either: a) Submit a new RFC email, to solicit further clarifications & additions, or b) Submit a wishl

Re: OT: rfc-ignorant RBL

2003-09-26 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 11:22:14PM +0200, martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Is anyone using the rfc-ignorant RBL? I have seen Karsten and Baloo > report there, but testing it out right now, I immediately discovered > that > > - amazon.com does not accept postmaster

Re: OT: rfc-ignorant RBL

2003-09-24 Thread Vineet Kumar
* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030924 17:23]: > Is anyone using the rfc-ignorant RBL? I have seen Karsten and Baloo > report there, but testing it out right now, I immediately discovered > that > > - amazon.com does not accept postmaster@ > - aol.com does not accept

OT: rfc-ignorant RBL

2003-09-24 Thread martin f krafft
Is anyone using the rfc-ignorant RBL? I have seen Karsten and Baloo report there, but testing it out right now, I immediately discovered that - amazon.com does not accept postmaster@ - aol.com does not accept abuse@ Thus I am wondering: is this at all useful? dsn.rfc-ignorant.org seems to be

Re: [RFC] Initialisation of ssh-agent

2003-07-23 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
The way that is usually handled is when the process starts, you record the pid in a file in /var/run or /tmp. Then you grab the pid from that file when you need to check it. - Ryan On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 09:27:36AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 07:07:19PM +0200, [EMAIL PR

Re: [RFC] Initialisation of ssh-agent

2003-07-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 12:31:51PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > > ps is probably the most inconsistent command in the entirety of Unix. > > No, 'ps ux' won't work on Unix systems which take most of their heritage > > from System V rather than BSD, and

Re: [RFC] Initialisation of ssh-agent

2003-07-23 Thread HdV
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > ps is probably the most inconsistent command in the entirety of Unix. > No, 'ps ux' won't work on Unix systems which take most of their heritage > from System V rather than BSD, and there is probably no one set of ps > arguments that will work everywhere.

Re: [RFC] Initialisation of ssh-agent

2003-07-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 07:07:19PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Finally there is the output of "ps ux". I use it to verify the PID of > the ssh-agent process. For that I take the value found in the second > column, but I am not sure if "ps ux" will give me that on all/most > unices. Does anyon

Re: [RFC] Initialisation of ssh-agent

2003-07-19 Thread HdV
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I know about /etc/X11/Xsession.options and use-ssh-agent, but most of > the people that will be reading this are using Solaris, HP-UX and all > kinds of GNU/Linux distributions, so this must be as portable as > possible. Of course the above is for Ope

Re: [RFC] Initialisation of ssh-agent

2003-07-19 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 20:20:58 -0500, Jesse Meyer wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > I wrote some zsh scripts to start ssh-agent if one is not running, > > and call ssh-add only when needed (ssh, slogin and scp are wrappers). > > The ssh-agent is killed when it isn't needed

Re: [RFC] Initialisation of ssh-agent

2003-07-18 Thread Jesse Meyer
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > I wrote some zsh scripts to start ssh-agent if one is not running, > and call ssh-add only when needed (ssh, slogin and scp are wrappers). > The ssh-agent is killed when it isn't needed any longer (but this > doesn't work very well with screen, perhaps

Re: [RFC] Initialisation of ssh-agent

2003-07-18 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 14:06:08 -0500, Ryan Nowakowski wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 07:10:50PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Currently I am writing a piece on the why and how of setting up SSH2 for > > public key authentication. For now it is in Dutch, but an English > > version will fol

Re: [RFC] Initialisation of ssh-agent

2003-07-16 Thread HdV
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Ryan Nowakowski wrote: > Take a look at keychain. It's the best way to start ssh-agent. Thanks for the suggestion, but 'apt-cache show' tells me it is for OpenSSH. Do you know if it will work with SSH.com and on other *nix platforms besides Gnu/Linux? Grx HdV -- To UNS

Re: [RFC] Initialisation of ssh-agent

2003-07-16 Thread Ryan Nowakowski
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 07:10:50PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > Currently I am writing a piece on the why and how of setting up SSH2 for > public key authentication. For now it is in Dutch, but an English > version will follow later on. In this document I want to show a couple > of ex

[RFC] Initialisation of ssh-agent

2003-07-16 Thread HdV
Hi, Currently I am writing a piece on the why and how of setting up SSH2 for public key authentication. For now it is in Dutch, but an English version will follow later on. In this document I want to show a couple of examples of starting ssh-agent from ~/.xsession, ~/.profile or ~/.login. This is

Re: RFC: an introduction to configuring sawfish

2003-01-16 Thread Adam Kao
> May I post your email on my website? I wish to record contributions > and show critiques so that future reviewers can read what has been > said and express agreement or disagreement. yes, of course. you can use it as you like. i actually wanted to post it to the whole mailing list but som

Re: RFC: an introduction to configuring sawfish

2003-01-15 Thread Adam Kao
Here is my reply to the previously forwarded email feedback. --- Start of forwarded message --- Thank you for your email. May I post your email on my website? I wish to record contributions and show critiques so that future reviewers can read what has been said and express agreement o

Re: RFC: an introduction to configuring sawfish

2003-01-15 Thread Adam Kao
Here is the reply to my reply to the previously forwarded message. --- Start of forwarded message --- hi > May I post your email on my website? I wish to record contributions > and show critiques so that future reviewers can read what has been > said and express agreement or disagreeme

[Fwd: Re: RFC: an introduction to configuring sawfish]

2003-01-15 Thread Adam
wrote: Subject: Re: RFC: an introduction to configuring sawfish From: CAiRO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 13 Jan 2003 08:22:54 +0100 hi, i'll just write down what comes to my mind while reading your howto. > I have written an introduction to configuri

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