Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-07 Thread hlyg
On 4/7/25 10:58, Max Nikulin wrote: On 07/04/2025 10:36, hlyg wrote: in bios Setup, i can choose "Legacy" for mbr disks or "UEFI" for gpt disks if i press F12 during boot, options are shown, i can boot both mbr and gpt disks It seems you have solved your issue (using BIOS menu), so feel f

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 07/04/2025 10:36, hlyg wrote: in bios Setup, i can choose "Legacy" for mbr disks or "UEFI" for gpt disks if i press F12 during boot, options are shown, i can boot both mbr and gpt disks It seems you have solved your issue (using BIOS menu), so feel free to ignore my question. It is pure c

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-06 Thread hlyg
to Max Nikulin: perhaps my optiplex is quite old, it hasn't uefi compatibility mode though i have installed latest version in bios Setup, i can choose "Legacy" for mbr disks or "UEFI" for gpt disks if i press F12 during boot, options are shown, i can boot both mbr and gpt disks

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/04/2025 21:54, hlyg wrote: i press F12 during Dell boot, a list of options show under section "UEFI BOOT:" there are 2 items: FreeBSD and debian but all 3 disks installed use mbr, no wonder they don't work [...] how to remove them? I am curious which way you boot Debia

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread Jeffrey Walton
are resulted from previous installation on gpt disks > > how to remove them? Use efibootmgr. Gentoo has a nice page on using it. Jeff

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2025-04-05, Hans wrote: > Maybe for someione interesting: As I also have Windows on my drive, there is > an entry for Windows. I deleted this, because then I only have the entry > "debian". And this is tarting grub, which got an entry for Windows. > Dunno, if this is a good way, but it is w

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread hlyg
Thank Hans! it is really Dell issue. i follow your instruction, it works.

Re: how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread Hans
ably they are resulted from previous installation on gpt disks > > how to remove them? I have a DELL Latitude, dual boot (Debian and Windows), should have same BIOS than yours. Go into the BIOS-setup, then look General -> Boot Sequence , on the right side you can delete or deativat

how to remove debian in bios menu

2025-04-05 Thread hlyg
i press F12 during Dell boot, a list of options show under section "UEFI BOOT:" there are 2 items: FreeBSD and debian but all 3 disks installed use mbr, no wonder they don't work most probably they are resulted from previous installation on gpt disks how to remove them?

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-09 Thread Phil
And if anyone thinks for one millisecond that it actually removes it . . . . On 9/11/24 18:55, George at Clug wrote: If anyone remembers the original question... Today I checked our Windows 10 and Windows 11 computers and in Settings, Apps, Apps & Features, I was able to select "Copilot" an

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-09 Thread Keith Bainbridge
Thanks George I was half expecting that On 9 November 2024 6:55:39 pm AEDT, George at Clug wrote: >If anyone remembers the original question... > >Today I checked our Windows 10 and Windows 11 computers and in Settings, Apps, >Apps & Features, I was able to select "Copilot" and then select Uni

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-08 Thread George at Clug
If anyone remembers the original question... Today I checked our Windows 10 and Windows 11 computers and in Settings, Apps, Apps & Features, I was able to select "Copilot" and then select Uninstall. That simple. George. On Wednesday, 06-11-2024 at 20:25 Keith Bainbridge wrote: > Good evening

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 09:38:25AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > I'm pretty sure: > > a) Andy lives on an island generally considered part of Europe > b) you are sufficiently dedicated to being off topic that I'm > putting you in the killfile now. Please do not feed the trolls. The fun is over so

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
mindaugascelies...@gmail.com wrote: Enough. The initial question didn't belong on this list in the first place, and you're making things worse. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, Tongue-tied & twisted, J

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Dan Ritter
Mindaugas wrote: > Yes, yes. After all, you yankee imperialists with world savior syndrome are > very fond of going to psychotherapists and taking the drugs they prescribe > for you. > > On 11/7/24 08:09, Andy Smith wrote: > > such as your therapist's > > office. I'm pretty sure: a) Andy lives

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Mindaugas
What difference does it make whether he is a yankee, an anglo-saxon, or their mental slave? On 11/7/24 16:38, Dan Ritter wrote: Mindaugas wrote: Yes, yes. After all, you yankee imperialists with world savior syndrome are very fond of going to psychotherapists and taking the drugs they prescrib

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 9:42 AM Mindaugas wrote: > > Yes, yes. After all, you yankee imperialists with world savior syndrome are > very fond of going to psychotherapists and taking the drugs they prescribe > for you. Lol... So true. Jeff

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Mindaugas
Yes, yes. After all, you yankee imperialists with world savior syndrome are very fond of going to psychotherapists and taking the drugs they prescribe for you. On 11/7/24 08:09, Andy Smith wrote: such as your therapist's office.

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 06:47:53PM +0200, Mindaugas wrote: > all distributions use the Linux kernel. And Linux, which everyone has > heard about, with the character of a dictator, communicates (and very > actively) with the US special services). So, it is not clear what is > in that kernel. An

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 06:40:15PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 11/6/24 8:47 AM, Mindaugas wrote: > > That's right, there are Linux distributions (not that many) that don't > > use systemd. > > Devuan, for one. You don't read, all of you. I'm "on" Debian bookworm, aka stable, aka 12.7 and no s

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 11/6/24 8:47 AM, Mindaugas wrote: That's right, there are Linux distributions (not that many) that don't use systemd. Devuan, for one. Marc

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 06:47:53PM +0200, Mindaugas wrote: > That's right, there are Linux distributions (not that many) that don't use > systemd. But all distributions use the Linux kernel. And Linux, which > everyone has heard about, with the character of a dictator, communicates > (and very acti

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread Bret Busby
On 6/11/24 19:31, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Wed Nov 6, 2024 at 9:25 AM GMT, Keith Bainbridge wrote: Subject: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot? There's degrees of "off-topic", sometimes people discuss something they feel may not be entirely on-topic but it&#

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread Mindaugas
That's right, there are Linux distributions (not that many) that don't use systemd. But all distributions use the Linux kernel. And Linux, which everyone has heard about, with the character of a dictator, communicates (and very actively) with the US special services). So, it is not clear what i

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread Mindaugas
TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot? There's degrees of "off-topic", sometimes people discuss something they feel may not be entirely on-topic but it's on the fringes, but I think this issue is really not suitable for this list. Actually, the question is kind of on-top

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 03:06:36PM +0200, Mindaugas wrote: > Better yet, ditch Linux altogether and switch to FreeBSD, which has no > systemd, Linux kernel (which is becoming more and more Windows-like) Nothing against FreeBSD, but my Linux hasn't systemd either (says someone who just tried to deb

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed Nov 6, 2024 at 9:25 AM GMT, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > Subject: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot? There's degrees of "off-topic", sometimes people discuss something they feel may not be entirely on-topic but it's on the fringes, but I think this issue

OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread Keith Bainbridge
Good evening All I know some of you work in a corporate environment, so have possibly had to deal with removing it. The most promising hint I have found is Copy and paste in the command below and press enter: reg add HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsCopilot /v TurnOffWindowsC

Re: How to remove GNOME from a headless virtual Sid

2023-09-11 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 09:28:15AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > how to get rid of voluminous desktop stuff without colateral damage ? I'd start with: apt purge libgtk-3-0 libqt* Possibly followed by: apt autoremove --purge It's assumed that you read through the list of packages

Re: How to remove GNOME from a headless virtual Sid

2023-09-11 Thread john doe
On 9/11/23 09:28, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, how to get rid of voluminous desktop stuff without colateral damage ? Does somebody here have experience to share about de-GNOME-ing a virtual Sid system ? Reason why i ask: A dist-upgrade of my virtual Sid lasted nearly 2 hours and used up 4.5 GiB o

How to remove GNOME from a headless virtual Sid

2023-09-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, how to get rid of voluminous desktop stuff without colateral damage ? Does somebody here have experience to share about de-GNOME-ing a virtual Sid system ? Reason why i ask: A dist-upgrade of my virtual Sid lasted nearly 2 hours and used up 4.5 GiB of its virtual disk. (About half of this wa

Re: ADD?REMOVE SOFTWARE

2023-06-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Brad McDonald wrote: > IS there any way to make multiple selections of a file,it's dependencies > and dependant packages rather than one by one as that is very slow.For > example 3 nights ago I installed all the "electrical" by first the named > folder then the dependencies then the dependant pack

Re: ADD?REMOVE SOFTWARE

2023-06-12 Thread err404
On 6/12/23 20:44, Brad McDonald wrote: IS there any way to make multiple selections of a file,it's dependencies and dependant packages rather than one by one as that is very slow.For example 3 nights ago I installed all the "electrical" by first the named folder then the dependencies then the

ADD?REMOVE SOFTWARE

2023-06-12 Thread Brad McDonald
IS there any way to make multiple selections of a file,it's dependencies and dependant packages rather than one by one as that is very slow.For example 3 nights ago I installed all the "electrical" by first the named folder then the dependencies then the dependant packages.The following 2 nights I

Re: unbound and fetchmail (was: Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system')

2023-03-03 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 10:09:42PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > On 02/03/2023 22:27, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > Am Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 09:26:33PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > > > On 28/02/2023 17:25, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > > > I will just inform about the status. Everything is fine now

Re: unbound and fetchmail (was: Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system')

2023-03-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 02/03/2023 22:27, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: Am Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 09:26:33PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: On 28/02/2023 17:25, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: I will just inform about the status. Everything is fine now. A word about systemd-networkd-wait-online: With this service running there h

Re: unbound and fetchmail (was: Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system')

2023-03-02 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 09:26:33PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > On 28/02/2023 17:25, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > I will just inform about the status. Everything is fine now. A word > > about systemd-networkd-wait-online: With this service running there > > has been even a delay of 1-2 seconds wh

Re: unbound and fetchmail (was: Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system')

2023-03-02 Thread Max Nikulin
On 28/02/2023 17:25, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: I will just inform about the status. Everything is fine now. A word about systemd-networkd-wait-online: With this service running there has been even a delay of 1-2 seconds when switching from one console to a different one (the consoles when X is n

Re: unbound and fetchmail (was: Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system')

2023-02-28 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 01:21:07PM -0600 schrieb David Wright: Hello David and Max, > On Sun 26 Feb 2023 at 19:08:01 (+0100), Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > Am Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 10:33:19PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > > > On 25/02/2023 19:49, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > > > Now there are no

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-27 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 10:53:24PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > (Meanwhile solved with denyinterface in /etc/dhcpcd.conf) > > > > Long story short, consider running "systemctl mask dhcpcd" unless you > > need dhcpcd to work in a way described above. > > The laptop does need to ha

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-27 Thread Geert Stappers
Hi. On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 05:25:09PM +0300, Reco wrote: > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 03:14:22PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 04:01:06PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 12:18:52PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: } } } } } Have you tried `journalctl --boot`?

Re: unbound and fetchmail (was: Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system')

2023-02-26 Thread David Wright
On Sun 26 Feb 2023 at 19:08:01 (+0100), Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > Am Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 10:33:19PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > > On 25/02/2023 19:49, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > > Now there are no messages reported by journald as above. > > > > I am curious if fixing unbound and so networ

Re: unbound and fetchmail (was: Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system')

2023-02-26 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 10:33:19PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > On 25/02/2023 19:49, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > Now there are no messages reported by journald as above. > > I am curious if fixing unbound and so network-online.target helped to avoid > 169.254.x.y address in your case. Can fetch

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-26 Thread David Wright
On Sun 26 Feb 2023 at 22:11:30 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 26/02/2023 18:18, Geert Stappers wrote: > > AIUI is systemd-networkd the main player, dhcpcd some helper > > and NetworkManager for contact with user. > > First of all, I would not touch dhcpcd.conf for a while. > > Is it assumed tha

Re: unbound and fetchmail (was: Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system')

2023-02-26 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 10:33:19PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > On 25/02/2023 19:49, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > Now there are no messages reported by journald as above. > > I am curious if fixing unbound and so network-online.target helped to avoid > 169.254.x.y address in your case. I am no

unbound and fetchmail (was: Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system')

2023-02-26 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/02/2023 19:49, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: Now there are no messages reported by journald as above. I am curious if fixing unbound and so network-online.target helped to avoid 169.254.x.y address in your case. Can fetchmail work without a kludge you added to achieve some delay? My expect

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-26 Thread Max Nikulin
On 26/02/2023 18:18, Geert Stappers wrote: AIUI is systemd-networkd the main player, dhcpcd some helper and NetworkManager for contact with user. First of all, I would not touch dhcpcd.conf for a while. Is it assumed that ovs-system should get its IP address from DHCP? If I understand it corr

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-26 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 03:14:22PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > Hi. > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 04:01:06PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 12:18:52PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > > > Feb 24 22:24:15 trancilo dhcpcd[1175]: ovs-system: carrier acquired > > > Feb 24 22

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-26 Thread Geert Stappers
Hi. On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 04:01:06PM +0300, Reco wrote: > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 12:18:52PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > > Feb 24 22:24:15 trancilo dhcpcd[1175]: ovs-system: carrier acquired > > Feb 24 22:24:15 trancilo dhcpcd[1175]: ovs-system: IAID cb:93:09:25 > > Feb 24 22:24:15 trancilo d

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-26 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 12:18:52PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > Feb 24 22:24:15 trancilo dhcpcd[1175]: ovs-system: carrier acquired > Feb 24 22:24:15 trancilo dhcpcd[1175]: ovs-system: IAID cb:93:09:25 > Feb 24 22:24:15 trancilo dhcpcd[1175]: ovs-system: adding address > fe80::56b2:

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-26 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 09:42:49AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 25/02/2023 04:43, Geert Stappers wrote: > > Having `apt purge avahi-autoipd` still gets me "auto IPv4 address" > > > > Ideas how to avoid it are welcome. > > Have you checked "journalctl --boot" for logs which component assigns >

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-25 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 07:41:26PM +0100 schrieb Christoph Brinkhaus: I reply to myself thanking Max. > Am Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 10:09:34PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > > On 22/02/2023 23:45, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > > Am Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 10:24:59PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > > > > On

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 9:51 PM David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 24 Feb 2023 at 22:43:49 (+0100), Geert Stappers wrote: > > [...] > I see you rebooted, and you get the same address. It's ambiguous as > to why: it could have been stored, which makes things more efficient > when a number of machines

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-24 Thread David Wright
en't really used > > in the way they were intended, but just as more flexible desktops. > > Having `apt purge avahi-autoipd` still gets me "auto IPv4 address" > > Ideas how to avoid it are welcome. > > > > $ dpkg -l '*avahi*ip*' &

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/02/2023 04:43, Geert Stappers wrote: Having `apt purge avahi-autoipd` still gets me "auto IPv4 address" Ideas how to avoid it are welcome. Have you checked "journalctl --boot" for logs which component assigns 169.254.x.y address and for various errors related to network? I am not fam

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-24 Thread Geert Stappers
ests, or the > sysadmin has to choose it off their own bat. But I guess their are > a lot of laptops, now they are affordable, that aren't really used > in the way they were intended, but just as more flexible desktops. Having `apt purge avahi-autoipd` still gets me "auto IPv4 ad

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-24 Thread David Wright
On Fri 24 Feb 2023 at 19:41:26 (+0100), Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > Am Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 10:09:34PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > > On 22/02/2023 23:45, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > > Am Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 10:24:59PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > > > > On 22/02/2023 01:26, Christoph Brinkhaus

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-24 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 10:09:34PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > On 22/02/2023 23:45, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > Am Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 10:24:59PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > > > On 22/02/2023 01:26, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > > > [Unit] > > > > Description=A remote mail retrieval and forw

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 22/02/2023 23:45, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: Am Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 10:24:59PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: On 22/02/2023 01:26, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: [Unit] Description=A remote mail retrieval and forwarding utility After=network-online.target opensmtpd.service unbound.service Requires=

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-22 Thread Darac Marjal
On 22/02/2023 19:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 02:04:58PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: Maybe the 'w' is not matching anything. I thought eth0 and wlan0 went the way of the dinosaurs. I thought with Consistent Network Device Names and biosdevname, the name will begin with a

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 02:04:58PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Maybe the 'w' is not matching anything. > > I thought eth0 and wlan0 went the way of the dinosaurs. I thought with > Consistent Network Device Names and biosdevname, the name will begin > with a 'p' or 'em', not a 'w', and based on

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 1:43 PM David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 21 Feb 2023 at 13:48:58 (-0500), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 1:26 PM Christoph Brinkhaus > > wrote: > > > [...] > > > > But backing up... I suspect there's something wrong with your static > > > > ip address assi

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-22 Thread David Wright
On Wed 22 Feb 2023 at 17:45:40 (+0100), Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > Am Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 10:24:59PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > > On 22/02/2023 01:26, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > > > > I have no idea if it is possible to estimate a DHCP response > > > > > time. > > > > Since static IP addr

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-22 Thread David Wright
On Tue 21 Feb 2023 at 13:48:58 (-0500), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 1:26 PM Christoph Brinkhaus > wrote: > > [...] > > > But backing up... I suspect there's something wrong with your static > > > ip address assignment. The address is already taken, the netmask is > > > wrong, o

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-22 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 10:24:59PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > On 22/02/2023 01:26, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > > > I have no idea if it is possible to estimate a DHCP response > > > > time. > > Since static IP address is assigned, it does not matter. I expected DHCP > configuration and that d

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-22 Thread Max Nikulin
On 22/02/2023 01:26, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: I have no idea if it is possible to estimate a DHCP response time. Since static IP address is assigned, it does not matter. I expected DHCP configuration and that delay may be noticed in `journalctl -b 0` logs. [Unit] Description=A remote mail

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-21 Thread tomas
On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 01:48:58PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 1:26 PM Christoph Brinkhaus > wrote: > > [...] > > > But backing up... I suspect there's something wrong with your static > > > ip address assignment. The address is already taken, the netmask is > > > wrong,

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 1:26 PM Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > [...] > > But backing up... I suspect there's something wrong with your static > > ip address assignment. The address is already taken, the netmask is > > wrong, or the gateway is wrong. > > > > Looking back through this thread, I did no

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-21 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 01:06:01PM -0500 schrieb Jeffrey Walton: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 12:45 PM Christoph Brinkhaus > wrote: > > Am Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 11:00:56PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > > > On 20/02/2023 21:44, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > > > Am Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 09:59:20AM +0700

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-21 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 06:44:38PM +0100, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > I have no idea if it is possible to estimate a DHCP response time. sudo nmap --script broadcast-dhcp-discover Reco

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-21 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 12:45 PM Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > Am Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 11:00:56PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > > On 20/02/2023 21:44, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > > Am Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 09:59:20AM +0700 schrieb Max > > > > Perhaps to > > > get rid of 169.254.x.y addresses, it

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-21 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 11:00:56PM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: > On 20/02/2023 21:44, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > Am Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 09:59:20AM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: Hello Max, > > > Perhaps to get rid of 169.254.x.y addresses, it is enough to properly > > > configure network interfac

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-21 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/02/2023 21:44, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: Am Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 09:59:20AM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: Perhaps to get rid of 169.254.x.y addresses, it is enough to properly configure network interface, either to ensure that DHCP server is available or to assign a static address. After tha

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-20 Thread The Wanderer
to back that up). You might see whether you have any packages installed that match "ovs", "ovn", "openvswitch", or similar, and if so either remove them (if you don't need them) or investigate the configuration settings they may offer. -- The Wanderer The

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 9:28 AM wrote: >[...] > -- > rhk > > (sig revised 20221206) > > If you reply: snip, snip, and snip again; leave attributions; avoid HTML; > avoid top posting; and keep it "on list". (Oxford comma (and semi-colon) > included at no charge.) If you revise the topic, change t

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-20 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 09:59:20AM +0700 schrieb Max Nikulin: Hi Max, > On 19/02/2023 23:35, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > Am Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 05:21:47PM +0100 schrieb Geert Stappers: > > > Having installed package openvswitch-switch and doing `ip route` I do get > > >169.254.0.0/16 dev

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-20 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, February 20, 2023 04:05:19 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 02:42:59AM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 2:27 AM wrote: > [...] > > > > That's what Microsoft calls them. I prefer the RFC's IP4LL. > > > > And Wireshark (https://wiki.wireshark.

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-20 Thread tomas
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 02:42:59AM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 2:27 AM wrote: [...] > > That's what Microsoft calls them. I prefer the RFC's IP4LL. > > And Wireshark (https://wiki.wireshark.org/APIPA.md) and Cisco > (https://study-ccna.com/apipa-automatic-private-ip-a

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 2:27 AM wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 12:53:25AM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 11:22 AM Geert Stappers > > wrote: > > > > > > Having installed package openvswitch-switch and doing `ip route` I do get > > > > > > 169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-sys

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-19 Thread tomas
On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 12:53:25AM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 11:22 AM Geert Stappers wrote: > > > > Having installed package openvswitch-switch and doing `ip route` I do get > > > > 169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system scope link src 169.254.201.7 metric 1004 > > Those are

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-19 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 11:22 AM Geert Stappers wrote: > > Having installed package openvswitch-switch and doing `ip route` I do get > > 169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system scope link src 169.254.201.7 metric 1004 Those are called "APIPA's". Automatic Private IP Addressing (APIPA). The host parts are

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-19 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/02/2023 01:57, Geert Stappers wrote: feb 19 18:46:18 trancilo systemd-networkd-wait-online[601]: ovs-system: Failed to update link state, ignoring: No such file or directory feb 19 18:46:18 trancilo systemd-networkd-wait-online[601]: ovs-system: Failed to update link state, ignoring: No s

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-19 Thread David Wright
On Mon 20 Feb 2023 at 09:59:20 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 19/02/2023 23:35, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > > Am Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 05:21:47PM +0100 schrieb Geert Stappers: > > > Having installed package openvswitch-switch and doing `ip route` I do get > > >169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system sc

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-19 Thread Max Nikulin
On 19/02/2023 23:35, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: Am Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 05:21:47PM +0100 schrieb Geert Stappers: Having installed package openvswitch-switch and doing `ip route` I do get 169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system scope link src 169.254.201.7 metric 1004 Please have a look at https://wik

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-19 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 07:57:56PM +0100 schrieb Geert Stappers: Hi Geert, > On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 12:21:36PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > >> Having installed package openvswitch-switch and doing `ip route` I do get > > >> 169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system scope link src 169.254.201.7 metric

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-19 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 12:21:36PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> Having installed package openvswitch-switch and doing `ip route` I do get > >> 169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system scope link src 169.254.201.7 metric 1004 > >> > >> What can be done to prevent that "zeroconf" > >> configures interfa

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Having installed package openvswitch-switch and doing `ip route` I do get >> 169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system scope link src 169.254.201.7 metric 1004 >> >> What can be done to prevent that "zeroconf" >> configures interface `ovs-system`? > > Please have a look at https://wiki.debian.org/Avahi.

Re: Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-19 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 05:21:47PM +0100 schrieb Geert Stappers: Hello Geert, > Having installed package openvswitch-switch and doing `ip route` I do get > 169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system scope link src 169.254.201.7 metric 1004 > > What can be done to prevent that "zeroconf" > configures inter

Remove route '169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system'

2023-02-19 Thread Geert Stappers
Hi, Having installed package openvswitch-switch and doing `ip route` I do get 169.254.0.0/16 dev ovs-system scope link src 169.254.201.7 metric 1004 What can be done to prevent that "zeroconf" configures interface `ovs-system`? Groeten Geert Stappers -- Silence is hard to parse

Re: Debian 11 - Remove sid and go back to stable

2022-11-24 Thread songbird
Georgi Naplatanov wrote: ... > - install needed packages you uninstalled in previous step. In this > step Debian will install packages from testing and you probably won't > have problems. > > Good luck! what i would do before anything else is create a new partition with plenty of space and

Re: Debian 11 - Remove sid and go back to stable

2022-11-23 Thread David
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 13:27, Amn wrote: > What a mess I got myself into. Hi, here is some more background explanation about this situation. https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian

Re: Debian 11 - Remove sid and go back to stable

2022-11-23 Thread Amn
Thanks everyone. What a mess I got myself into. However, I have decided to take Georgi Naplatanov suggestion. On 11/23/22 3:17 p.m., The Wanderer wrote: On 2022-11-23 at 15:11, Amn wrote: Hi folks, I thought it would be a good idea to install the sid packages, but a lot of things are not wo

Re: Debian 11 - Remove sid and go back to stable

2022-11-23 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 11/23/22 22:11, Amn wrote: Hi folks, I thought it would be a good idea to install the sid packages, but a lot of things are not working properly, so I would like to go back to stable source packages only. How can I do that? As other users said there is not reliable way to downgrade your s

Re: Debian 11 - Remove sid and go back to stable

2022-11-23 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 15:11:10 -0500 Amn wrote: > Hi folks, I thought it would be a good idea to install the sid > packages, but a lot of things are not working properly, so I would > like to go back to stable source packages only. How can I do that? Back up and re-install Bullseye. Downgrading is

Re: Debian 11 - Remove sid and go back to stable

2022-11-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 03:11:10PM -0500, Amn wrote: > Hi folks, I thought it would be a good idea to install the sid packages, but > a lot of things are not working properly, so I would like to go back to > stable source packages only. How can I do that? > > Thanks!! > Hi Amn, You can't, effect

Re: Debian 11 - Remove sid and go back to stable

2022-11-23 Thread The Wanderer
On 2022-11-23 at 15:11, Amn wrote: > Hi folks, I thought it would be a good idea to install the sid > packages, but a lot of things are not working properly, so I would > like to go back to stable source packages only. How can I do that? I can think of two possible approaches, both of which come

Debian 11 - Remove sid and go back to stable

2022-11-23 Thread Amn
Hi folks, I thought it would be a good idea to install the sid packages, but a lot of things are not working properly, so I would like to go back to stable source packages only. How can I do that? Thanks!!

Re: Remove Network Manager panel icon in Mate 1.24.1 Desktop

2022-10-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/10/2022 15:50, jeremy ardley wrote: My only problem now is the annoying NetworkManager icon in the Mate panel. I want to remove it and I have gone through various advice pages but nothing seems to work. The NetworkManager icon seems permanently wedged into the panel. Something like

Remove Network Manager panel icon in Mate 1.24.1 Desktop

2022-10-25 Thread jeremy ardley
m now is the annoying NetworkManager icon in the Mate panel. I want to remove it and I have gone through various advice pages but nothing seems to work. The NetworkManager icon seems permanently wedged into the panel. Is there any straight forward way to remove the NetworkManager icon? Pe

Re: idempotent (was Re: exif --remove not idempotent, and a Debian man page bug)

2022-09-28 Thread John Hasler
rhkramer writes: > Some examples from (simple) math include adding zero or multiplying by > 1. Those are respectively the additive and multiplicative identities. They are, of course, idempotent but not good examples because they never change the operand even on first application. A better examp

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